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George1 wrote:The Serbian company DLS Specijalni sistemi doo Beograd is developing a light tank on the chassis of the Soviet 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled guns. A turret with a modified 100-mm T-12 / MT-12 Rapier anti-tank gun is used as a combat module.
George1 wrote:The Serbian company DLS Specijalni sistemi doo Beograd is developing a light tank on the chassis of the Soviet 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled guns. A turret with a modified 100-mm T-12 / MT-12 Rapier anti-tank gun is used as a combat module.
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littlerabbit wrote:It looks cool...but I wonder if this combat module could be put on new Lazar3 vehicles?
GarryB wrote:Would be at a disadvantage against other tanks of the last few decades, but against older tanks in Africa like T-54s and T-55s and indeed T-34s it might get away with a lot simply by having better optics and better night vision gear.
The 100mm gun is reasonably good against tanks of its generation, and would be plenty for use against most BMPs and BTRs as well as having good performance against bunkers and enemy firing positions.
GarryB wrote:Once you start up armouring you will enter a spiral of needing a new engine and improved suspension etc etc and pretty soon you end up with something still less capable than you would have if you started with a T-72.
GarryB wrote:I would say start with a T-72 if you want a tank... better gun, better armour, just as cheap and widely available...
Why not just buy whole T-72 then?
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littlerabbit wrote:Lazar 3 on military parade in Turkmenistan.
As we know, they bought 24 vehicles, so far....
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PapaDragon wrote:littlerabbit wrote:Lazar 3 on military parade in Turkmenistan.
As we know, they bought 24 vehicles, so far....
They already delivered them?
Holy shit, I thought they were still in negotiation phase
Who are these guys and what have they done to our defense industry?
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littlerabbit wrote:...Apparently, a new factory in Kursumlija is already making a shit load of Milos M-16 vehicles, I saw only a glimpse of factory and there were at least 6 or 7 unfinished vehicles....
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...The LAZANSKI is a completely new armored vehicle and is not based on the Lazar family of 8x8 armored vehicles. The hull of the LAZANSKI is of all-welded steel construction and is combined with Ceramic armor to reach standard ballistic protection of STANAG 4569 Level 5, against the firing of 25mm caliber weapons. The vehicle can be fitted upgraded to Level 6, offering ballistic protection against 30 mm APFSDS (Armor-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot) or AP (Armor Piercing) ammunition at 500 m. The vehicle incorporates a V-shaped monocoque hull providing mine protection Level 4 STANAG 4569 to withstand an explosion of 10 kg of TNT under the wheels and the center bottom part.
The layout of the new LAZANSKI consists has the power pack front right, driver front left and the whole of the remainder of the hull rear being left free for the troop compartment. The vehicle has a crew of three including a driver, commander and gunner while the rear part of the vehicle is able to accommodate up to 10 infantrymen that are seated on anti-mine blast seats. A hydraulic ramp is located at the rear of the hull allowing the infantrymen to quickly enter or leave the vehicle.
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The LAZANSKI is powered by a Turbocharged Caterpillar C13 engine developing 711 hp coupled to a 6-speed automatic Allison 4000SP transmission. The drive train consists of SISU axles with electro-pneumatic locks on all sub-elements. The vehicle has a gross vehicle weight from 26 to 36 tons depending on the armor configuration.....
The vehicle has a crew of three including a driver, commander and gunner while the rear part of[b] the vehicle is able to accommodate up to 10 infantrymen [
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GarryB wrote:Those passive radio sensors were also used on SA-13 and SA-9 and were used to detect the weak signal from radio altimeters used on aircraft and missiles to fly low while avoiding terrain.... and also of course terrain following radar.
They look like they have lengthened the missiles, which is a bit excessive considering the SOSNA is intended to replace it in Russian service.
AFAIK the current model Strela-10M already has a thermal channel with its seeker to improve performance against small targets that are not hot jet engine exhausts.
JohninMK wrote:Zoran Vukosavljevic
@ZoranVukosavlje
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13 Oct
New improved Strela-10M with thermal camera, laser rangefinder, pasive radio-locators and modified 9M37M missile marked as RLN-S10, range 10 km/ 5 km on height!
@MihajlovicMike
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Increasing range isn't only meant to hit at longer ranges. It also means that the missile has better kinematics in its effective range.
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