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    Post  AirCargo on Sat May 16, 2015 4:11 am

    International Business Times

    Amid Russian Aggression, France Offers Subs, Cruise Missiles To Poland

    By Tim Marcin  May 12 2015 9:12 AM EDT

    Amid tensions with Russia, Poland could soon buy new weapons -- namely submarines and missiles -- designed to help deter aggressors. France stepped in Monday and offered to supply the country with cruise missiles and submarines, reported Defense News.
    Tomasz Siemoniak, Poland's deputy Prime minister and defense minister, had announced that the country's government planned to buy cruise missiles to go along with an intended purchase of three new submarines. France said it would supply Poland with its cruise missiles -- provided the Polish government opted to purchase French-designed Scorpene submarines.  Under the plan, France reportedly authorized the sale of three submarines and 24 missiles, newspaper Gazeta Wyborca reported. The Polish Defense Ministry's plan is to have two of the modern submarines delivered by 2022 and a third by 2023.
    Siemoniak previously announced in March that Poland was in talks with France and the United States to acquire cruise missiles as a part of the country's efforts to step up its defense capabilities. The country reportedly wanted to improve its ability to deter outside forces through modern weapons. At the time, some in Russia took the move as a measure against Moscow and said that if Poland acquired the missiles, Russia would likely take action of its own.
    Meanwhile, Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski approved a resolution in early May to form a joint Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian military unit that would participate in NATO, the United Nations and European Union. The announcement of the intended force, reportedly composed of 4,500 troops, came in September 2014 after growing Russian aggression in Eastern Europe.  Western leaders have accused Russia of providing support to pro-Russian separatists who have been locked in a conflict in Eastern Ukraine that has killed more than 6,000 people since it began in March 2014. Russia has denied involvement in the conflict.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat May 16, 2015 9:22 am

    Yeah... blowing cash on stuff they don't need and wont use is definitely the way to go...
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    Post  flamming_python on Sat May 16, 2015 11:57 am

    Military tensions make for good business, France is smart to try and take advantage.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Sat May 16, 2015 1:21 pm

    GarryB wrote:Yeah... blowing cash on stuff they don't need and wont use is definitely the way to go...

    The Public debt is only ~320 bln Euros...they can reach 60% GDP so there you have those 10 or so more bln to blow. Especially on things that would require double that to be maintained and you'll never use.
    It's OK.

    And then don't forget, Polish Government can also have Yanukovich moments like these..

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303942404579360782295964924

    Boom 9% of Debt Gone baaby. They ride Poland like they stole it. But Rasha Bad. Real Bad.

    Sorry for the Polish posters. Just meant to highlight how it is done. Stealing I mean.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun May 17, 2015 5:21 am

    Even if their debt was zero they will get little practical use from cruise missiles and subs... and most importantly the introduction of cruise missiles into eastern europe will make Russia realise that the INF which only applies to the US and Russia and limits the range of ground launched cruise missiles and ballistic missiles is now a joke... the US doesn't need to place cruise missiles in Europe when already France can and sell them to Poland.

    Clearly Russia needs to withdraw from the INF treaty... which wont make anyone any safer but will mean Russia could start mass producing cheap cruise missiles with modern accurate guidance that allows conventional warhead options... and should probably consider selling some to Iran.

    Of course the main difference will be that the French missiles will be very expensive but also very good, while the Russian missiles will be very good and cheap enough to buy in enormous numbers.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun May 17, 2015 5:44 am

    GarryB wrote:Even if their debt was zero they will get little practical use from cruise missiles and subs... and most importantly the introduction of cruise missiles into eastern europe will make Russia realise that the INF which only applies to the US and Russia and limits the range of ground launched cruise missiles and ballistic missiles is now a joke... the US doesn't need to place cruise missiles in Europe when already France can and sell them to Poland.

    Clearly Russia needs to withdraw from the INF treaty... which wont make anyone any safer but will mean Russia could start mass producing cheap cruise missiles with modern accurate guidance that allows conventional warhead options... and should probably consider selling some to Iran.

    Of course the main difference will be that the French missiles will be very expensive but also very good, while the Russian missiles will be very good and cheap enough to buy in enormous numbers.

    I'm glad you've seen the light, it was only a matter of time... Wink
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun May 17, 2015 5:48 am

    I thought France was done selling Scorpene after the Navantia fallout.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:39 am

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    Post  George1 on Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:17 am

    France to Invest $4.5Bln in Indian Defense Under Rafale Deal

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/business/20150929/1027714780/france-india-rafale.html#ixzz3nChLzThb
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    Post  George1 on Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:44 am

    France Sets Arms Export Contracts Record of $17.5B

    PARIS — France signed arms export contracts worth some €16 billion (US $17.5 billion) in 2015, with Dassault Aviation, MBDA, DCNS and Airbus at the top of the list for the foreign deals, said a Defense Ministry official who declined to be identified.

    That is France's highest figure for exports and compares to foreign sales of €8.2 billion in 2014. The figure was driven by the sale of 48 Rafale fighter jets to Egypt and Qatar, which brought in €11.5 billion, with the latter holding options for 12 more units. Airbus sales to South Korea of helicopters and A330 multirole tanker transport aircraft put sales to Asia second to that of the Middle East. Saudi Arabia bought €100 million of French arms.

    France imported €1.5 billion of foreign equipment, mostly electronics kit.

    http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/policy-budget/industry/2016/01/15/france-sets-export-sales-record-175b/78851676/
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:50 am

    There is information that Leclerc very well expressed in the demonstrations, organized by the army of the United Arab Emirates at the end of November 2015. In addition, the Saudi military have been very much impressed by the achievements of the French tanks in the fighting in Yemen. There's damage from the actions of Huthis got nine tanks, one of which was destroyed. Moreover, these tanks have shown very good results to defeat targets. This is indicated by several French sources.

    Prospects for Leclerc in Saudi Arabia did not seem hopeless, because Riyadh is planning to deploy a new armored brigade of 200 modern tanks, 50 of which seems to have to go to reimbursement of losses. The only "but" is the fact that it is not about the contract, or even talks, but only a promising proposal for the tender. He will soon be announced, it will be attended by the French, together with the Germans, who put the Leopard 2, and the Turks with the tank Altay.

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    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:30 pm

    Nexter Submitted Final Offer for Indian Artillery

    PARIS — Nexter submitted on Feb. 15 its final bid in an Indian tender for a €1 billion ($1.1 billion) contract for 1,400 155mm towed cannons, Stéphane Mayer, chairman of the land armaments company, told a parliamentary committee.

    “We submitted our final offer Feb. 15,” Mayer told the National Assembly defense committee on March 2. The competition, worth €1 billion and the largest for land weapons, will yield “the contract of the century for artillery,” he said.

    Indian authorities have set final selection between the two bidders by the end of the year, to allow for exclusive negotiations, he said.

    Nexter has teamed with local partner Larsen & Toubro to pitch its Trajan 155mm/52 caliber gun against Elbit Systems, partnered with Bharat Forge.

    The French state-owned company is also pitching its Caesar 155mm/52 caliber cannon in a second Indian tender for 800 truck-mounted guns, with a bid due in 2018, Mayer said. That Indian project compares to 77 units delivered to the French Army.

    The Indian defense acquisition council approved in November 2014 a budget of $2.5 billion for 814 of truck-mounted artillery, dubbed mounted gun system.

    “Experience has shown in India, patience is very much needed in general, and in defense in particular, and the delays are not rare,” Mayer said.

    On the truck-mounted gun, Nexter has teamed with Larsen & Toubro and Ashok Leyland, with the latter for the truck chassis.

    For Qatar’s tender for 300 infantry fighting vehicles, Nexter has given demonstration trials with its véhicule blindé de combat et infanterie, with a heavier gun than the weapon fitted on the French Army VBCI, he said.

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    Nexter and BAE Systems are partners on the 50-50 joint venture, CTA International, which builds the 40mm cased telescoped cannon.

    Nexter also has made pitches to Egypt, Mayer said, without further detail. The Middle East is a “consuming region” for defense equipment, he said.

    “That is a euphemism,” said Member of Parliament Charles de La Verpillière.

    Any order for the Army would follow Egypt’s recent moves on modernizing the Air Force and Navy, which are re-equipping with the Rafale fighter, a multimission frigate and four corvettes, with two more on option.

    In Europe, the land weapons company last year sold cannons worth some €100 million to BAE, and expects a British requirement in 2018 for 300 to 400 infantry fighting vehicles, Mayer said. Nexter has given a demonstration for Norway, which is looking to order artillery, while Denmark and Finland also seek new cannons.

    The company struck its first sale in Africa with a deal with Gabon, he said.

    Nexter said October 2014 it signed a contract for 12 Aravis four-wheel drive vehicles armed with a 20mm gun.

    On the difference in German and French arms export rules, the two governments are in talks on updating the 1972 Debré-Schmidt bilateral agreement on foreign sales, but that has been disappointing.

    “I have to say the intergovernmental discussions — necessarily long — have not so far led to amendments that meet our expectations,” Mayer said.

    Those changes are seen as key as Nexter has formed a 50-50 joint venture with Krauss-Maffei Wegmann, to share technology to build a future tank for France and Germany by 2030 and cooperate in the pursuit of foreign markets, he said.

    A convergence of policy on arms export control is vital to creating the European leader in land weapons, he said. The joint venture, with a temporary name of Honosthor, seeks to supply the same weapons to the French and German Army, and eventually other European armies.

    Nexter is pursuing exports despite results that disappointed “many observers, including those inside the company,” he said.

    Denmark last year picked the Piranha 5 troop carrier from Mowag, the Swiss unit of General Dynamics Europe Land Systems, beating offers from Nexter, BAE and other GDEL vehicles.

    Nexter makes bids in many tenders, invests heavily in demonstration trials and builds prototypes, he said. The Ministry of Defense, Direction Générale de l’Armement procurement office, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Army provided support in export campaigns but there seems to be lower priority for land weapons compared to air and naval deals.

    Asked about a possible acquisition of the Thales TDA unit, which builds a 120

    Nexter and KMW have formed working groups to discuss with the French and German defense ministries the requirements for a “completely new tank” to replace the Leclerc and Leopard 2 in service, he said. Nexter hopes to replace Rheinmetall to supply KMW on some equipment.

    On the Scorpion modernization program for the French Army, there “have been some difficulties” that are normal for a project of such size, but the timetable would be observed, he said. Scorpion focuses on developing and building 1,600 Griffon troop carriers and 248 Jaguar combat vehicles.

    Work on Scorpion makes up half of Nexter’s order book, he said. The company booked 2015 orders of €1 billion, sales of €1.07 billion compared to €1.04 billion in the previous year. Munitions account for €300 million of orders.

    On Philippe Burtin’s surprise departure in December as Nexter’s chairman, Mayer said that was due to Burtin’s reaching the statutory retirement age by the end of 2016, and instead of changing the statutes, Mayer was appointed to the top job.

    Mayer can hold the post for five years, and a further five if the mandate isrenewed, he said. That ensures there will be two co-presidents, Mayer and Frank Haun, at the head of the Nexter-KMW joint venture.

    Burtin had worked on setting up the joint venture, and was asked to step down from the top job just before the deal completed in December.

    http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/land/2016/03/23/nexter-india-france/82156102/
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    Post  max steel on Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:34 am

    MBDA Signs MoU to Supply Coastal Missile Systems to Qatar

    MBDA has today signed a Memorandum of Understanding for the supply of a coastal defence system for the Qatar Emiri Naval Force (QENF). This Memorandum will pave the way in the short term for a contract with the value of 2.64 billion Qatari riyals (in the region of 640 million euros).

    The supply of these coastal missile systems will allow the QENF to monitor maritime coastal traffic and prevent hostile ships from reaching and threatening their territorial waters. These coastal missile systems can deploy two different munitions, Exocet MM40 Block 3 and Marte ER (the Extended Range version of the Marte missile), reflecting the maturity and excellence of these munitions. The system can work in autonomous mode with its own radar, or alternatively by data-linking to a higher level within a wider coastal surveillance network.

    Antoine Bouvier, CEO of MBDA, commented: “This MoU represents the first step towards the signing of a contract for this new and innovative coastal missile system. This is a further confirmation of the trust placed by the Qatar Armed Forces in MBDA for its defence requirements.”

    “With this MoU, MBDA confirms its success in proposing systems that deliver advanced operational capabilities to its customers with a high degree of affordability”, said Antonio Perfetti, Executive Group Director Sales and Business Development and Managing Director MBDA Italia. “This agreement between MBDA and the QENF also shows another important aspect: a great multinational team spirit that allows MBDA to face any challenge.”

    At DIMDEX 2016, where the MoU was today signed, MBDA is displaying a full-size model of this coastal missile system.


    With a significant presence in five European countries and within the USA, in 2015 MBDA achieved a turnover of 2.9 billion euros with an order book of 15.1 billion euros. With more than 90 armed forces customers in the world, MBDA is a world leader in missiles and missile systems. MBDA is jointly held by Airbus Group (37.5%), BAE Systems (37.5%), and Finmeccanica (25%).
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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:16 am

    Egypt and France to Sign €1 billion Arms Deal

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160408/1037672164/Egypt-France-Arms-Deal.html#ixzz45Dl6p9Nv
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    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:43 pm

    The French naval shipbuilding company DCNS has won a contract to build 12 next-generation submarines for the Australian fleet, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said Tuesday.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160426/1038607937/france-australia-submarines.html#ixzz46w5wU4Gh
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    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:17 am

    In 2016, the volume of new export arms contracts amounted to France ςασ from 14 to 20 billion euros

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2475686.html
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    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:00 am

    Denmark buys self-propelled howitzers CAESAR on the chassis Tatra





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    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:16 pm

    In 2016, Botswana entered the top 10 buyers of French arms through the purchase of air defense systems

    As Michel Cabirol writes in the article "Armement: mais qu'a vendu la France au Botswana en 2016?", Published by the French newspaper La Tribune, in 2016, Botswana was among the ten largest buyers of French weapons by signing a contract valued at 304, 2 million euros with the European missile concern MBDA.

    According to information from the sources of the publication, MBDA managed to conclude a contract with Botswana for the supply of portable Mistral air defense systems and VL-MICA short-range air defense systems. This is a defensive weapon. In addition, the country's parliament voted to endorse the deal. Last year, Botswana's army received a helicopter Eurocopter AS332 Super Puma from the presence of the Spanish Air Force, as well as 14 French ATGMs. In total, the volume of supplies of French arms to this country last year amounted to 8.5 million euros (compared with 2.1 million euros in 2015).

    The Armed Forces of Botswana are also interested in the acquisition of the Swedish Saab Gripen fighter (from eight to twelve units) to replace its obsolete Northrop CF-5A/D fighters. Negotiations are ongoing with the Swedish manufacturer, and the purchase of combat aircraft in Russia or China is not excluded. For its part, in 2016, France issued 15 export licenses for the supply of weapons to Botswana for a total of 567 million euros.

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:29 am

    France landed a $1.3 billion land forces contract in Belgium.

    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/184744/belgium-to-buy-french-scorpion-afvs-for-%E2%82%AC1.1bn.html
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:38 am

    France sells 63 Mirage F1 fighters to the United States.

    http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/vente-de-63-mirage-f1-francais-a-l-atac-743632.html
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    Post  franco on Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:31 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:France sells 63 Mirage F1 fighters to the United States.

    http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/vente-de-63-mirage-f1-francais-a-l-atac-743632.html

    I'm sure there is more of this story to come out...
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:19 pm

    franco wrote:
    I'm sure there is more of this story to come out...

    They will be used for aggressor training. Many were expecting Argentina to get them but the British felt it was too much of a threat.
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    Post  Isos on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:16 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    franco wrote:
    I'm sure there is more of this story to come out...

    They will be used for aggressor training.  Many were expecting Argentina to get them but the British felt it was too much of a threat.  

    I didn't saw anything about British pressure. They were ready to sell them but they couldn't wait for Argentinian response while US wanted to sign and signed. But that stupid for Argentina 63 Mirage F1 for 40 millions $ (juste 12 or so able to fly).
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:57 am

    [quote="Isos"][quote="Vladimir79"]
    franco wrote:

    I didn't saw anything about British pressure. They were ready to sell them but they couldn't wait for Argentinian response while US wanted to sign and signed. But that stupid for Argentina 63 Mirage F1 for 40 millions $ (juste 12 or so able to fly).

    The French proposal was $23 million per unit which included upgrades, armaments and a 5 year support package. That is actually a steal for any air force on a budget.
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    Post  Isos on Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:38 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Vladimir79 wrote:
    franco wrote:

    I didn't saw anything about British pressure. They were ready to sell them but they couldn't wait for Argentinian response while US wanted to sign and signed. But that stupid for Argentina 63 Mirage F1 for 40 millions $ (juste 12 or so able to fly).

    The French proposal was $23 million per unit which included upgrades, armaments and a 5 year support package.  That is actually a steal for any air force on a budget.

    I don't know from where are your sources but I just checked now in French news and it's all 64 F-1 for 25 million $. While another offer was for 80 fighters with just 30 being able to fly the rest was for spare parts.

    My first numbers are wrong but I remember I've seen an article that was saying something like this some months ago. The new number I just gave are from two weeks ago.

    http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/la-france-pres-de-vendre-64-mirage-f1-aux-etats-unis-741119.html

    http://www.opex360.com/2017/06/23/les-anciens-mirage-f1-de-larmee-de-lair-pourraient-entamer-une-nouvelle-carriere-aux-etats-unis/


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