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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:21 pm

    Yes looks like this operation failed
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    Post  verkhoturye51 on Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:22 pm

    Emerging Libyan leader Haftar on an official visit to Egyptian president El-Sisi in Cairo:

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:37 pm

    Bani Walid and it's airport have been taken by LNA, they have one last major zone to take then they can enter Tripoli, assuming all goes well for them and the GNA do not stop it.

    But again, entering the city alone doesn't mean the LNA will win. If the GNA resists the Urban fighting could last months, assuming the LNA even has the spare manpower for such a meat grinder.

    looks like they were barely able to recover from the Al Azi loss, they cannot afford such major loses again tho.
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    Post  verkhoturye51 on Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:15 pm

    Bani Walid and it's airport have been taken by LNA, they have one last major zone to take then they can enter Tripoli, assuming all goes well for them and the GNA do not stop it.

    Yes, the Army seems to have secured its eastern flank now.

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    Meanwhile, allied spy aircraft from Egypt and France monitor areas under islamist control.

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    Post  Isos on Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:07 pm

    A new gamer cames into the game. Anyone knows which side they are ?

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:46 pm

    LNA is losing some ground, things turned south for them, let's see if they can pull it back.
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    Post  Isos on Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:16 am


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    #UPDATE: A second group of 11 individuals of different nationalities who tried to infiltrate via the sea were also arrested

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    #UPDATE: 13 French armed men with diplomatic passports have tried to cross the border from Libya to Tunisia
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    Post  Isos on Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:18 am

    https://sputniknews.com/news/201904171074200670-rockets-strike-tripoli-reports/

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    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:33 am

    Isos wrote:A new gamer cames into the game. Anyone knows which side they are ?

    Turkey supports the GNA.
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    Post  verkhoturye51 on Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:57 pm

    Nooo! Blyat! Is it possible? Some people knew all the time that Haftar was an asshole and Trump's puppet?!! How come nobody told me!??

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-security-trump/white-house-says-trump-spoke-to-libyan-commander-haftar-on-monday-idUSKCN1RV0WW wrote:A White House statement said Trump “recognized Field Marshal Haftar’s significant role in fighting terrorism and securing Libya’s oil resources, and the two discussed a shared vision for Libya’s transition to a stable, democratic political system.”



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    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:27 pm

    verkhoturye51 wrote:Nooo! Blyat! Is it possible? Some people knew all the time that Haftar was an asshole and Trump's puppet?!! How come nobody told me!??

    To be a puppet implies one controls the other, Haftar is controlled by Total of France, the one who gets him the oil.
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    Post  verkhoturye51 on Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:05 pm

    To be a puppet implies one controls the other, Haftar is controlled by Total of France, the one who gets him the oil.  

    Now deployment of Charles de Gaulle CV in the Mediterranean earlier this month makes sense.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:07 am

    Maduro could easily be Trumps best friend.... all he has to do is get in to talks with US oil companies about extracting their enormous potential oil reserves and Trump will call off the wolves and invite him to the whitehouse without trying to murder him.

    This libyan guy is in a strong position to control the oil in Libya... of course trump is going to treat him like a potential leader... as long as he doesn't have talks with Russia or China or any rival of the US.

    For his perspective he will go around all the major powers finding out what sort of deal gives him the best future... right now it is clear that France is his choice, but he could just as easily try the US... which might get him murdered by the French like Gaddafi was... so I doubt it... but at the moment he is just testing the water... and Trump wont demonise him until he knows he wont be able to get anything out of him...

    Remember Saddam was a great ally of the west while he was fighting the Iranians... such relations can change over night.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:27 pm

    unless something short of some Miracle at this point haftar is going to fail, the LNA is getting their teeth kicked in. They are close to Losing Gharyan unless the LNA purpose kept falling back to lure GNA forces deeper into their lines to surround and destroy the forces, which I doubt. Haftar's forces are showing they aren't up to the task


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    Post  Isos on Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:43 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Short of some Miracle at this point haftar is going to fail, the LNA is getting their teeth kicked in. They are close to Losing Gharyan unless the LNA purpose kept falling back to lure GNA forces deeper into their lines to surround and destroy the forces, which I doubt. Haftar's forces are showing they aren't up to the task

    Unless nato helps him which would be funny to see, specially what reason they would invent to attack Lybia again.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:10 am

    Isos wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Short of some Miracle at this point haftar is going to fail, the LNA is getting their teeth kicked in. They are close to Losing Gharyan unless the LNA purpose kept falling back to lure GNA forces deeper into their lines to surround and destroy the forces, which I doubt. Haftar's forces are showing they aren't up to the task

    Unless nato helps him which would be funny to see, specially what reason they would invent to attack Lybia again.

    LNA are losing ground on the southern Tripoli front, going very bad for them.
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    Post  Aristide on Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:49 pm

    France supports Haftar 100%
    and news arrived that it was France that allows Haftar his march against Tripoli. France bombs extremeists in southern Libya and supports Haftars troops from the air.

    France thinks a military ruler is the best option for Libya to stop migrants and allow oil business for TOTAL.

    Haftar has strong ties to France and some of his family lives in Paris.

    Its also a interesting case, because it shows France and Russia can pull on one side, when they share interests.

    The italians are fuming because tehy see Libya as their zone of interest and now watch France creating new reality there with Putin supporting it.

    They even say its an Paris-Moscow Axis

    http://www.affaritaliani.it/politica/geopolitica/libia-ue-usa-haftar-macron-putin-egitto-francia-egitto-russia-598231.html

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    Its a strange thing though. Paris, Moscow and even now trump support Haftar.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:01 pm

    France isn't bombing the GNA, where did you get that BS from the "news".

    And if they ARE which they ain't then the French Airforce is even shitter then I thought, the GNA are pushing the LNA back.

    Despite this "Air Support" Yes those guys "Support" Haftar but only because it seems like right now he could MAYBE win, they aren't providing him with aid or help in the fight, no real help anyways.

    Cause Haftar could use ALLLL the help he can get right now.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:10 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:France isn't bombing the GNA, where did you get that BS from the "news".

    And if they ARE which they ain't then the French Airforce is even shitter then I thought, the GNA are pushing the LNA back.

    Despite this "Air Support" Yes those guys "Support" Haftar but only because it seems like right now he could MAYBE win, they aren't providing him with aid or help in the fight, no real help anyways.

    Cause Haftar could use ALLLL the help he can get right now.

    Hafter controls 90% of the country... including all of the oil. Whoever controls that has all of the power.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:14 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:France isn't bombing the GNA, where did you get that BS from the "news".

    And if they ARE which they ain't then the French Airforce is even shitter then I thought, the GNA are pushing the LNA back.

    Despite this "Air Support" Yes those guys "Support" Haftar but only because it seems like right now he could MAYBE win, they aren't providing him with aid or help in the fight, no real help anyways.

    Cause Haftar could use ALLLL the help he can get right now.

    Hafter controls 90% of the country... including all of the oil.  Whoever controls that has all of the power.  


    That is indeed correct but that wasn't my point. They are "supporting" because yes he has the oil, but aside from words and some help with intel and an advisor or two they aren't doing anything else.

    The French aren't conducting air-raids, That said they will turn on him in a second if he loses too much.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:17 pm

    Paris, Moscow and even now trump support Haftar
    Trump is rather neutral at this point- he doesn't want another Syria, esp. with worsening situation in the SC Sea, Korea & presidential elections coming up next year.
    Don't count chicks before they hatch: Haftar will die soon from brain tumor, & Libya will likely break apart &/ be neo-colonized by several countries.
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    Post  Aristide on Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:06 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:France isn't bombing the GNA, where did you get that BS from the "news".

    And if they ARE which they ain't then the French Airforce is even shitter then I thought, the GNA are pushing the LNA back.

    Despite this "Air Support" Yes those guys "Support" Haftar but only because it seems like right now he could MAYBE win, they aren't providing him with aid or help in the fight, no real help anyways.

    Cause Haftar could use ALLLL the help he can get right now.

    English propably is not your strength. I said France bombs targets in southern libya and with that supports Haftar.

    France wants a strong secular leader in Libya and what we want becomes reality.

    Sarraj has no power anyways. Time to wipe this shit away.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:46 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:France isn't bombing the GNA, where did you get that BS from the "news".

    And if they ARE which they ain't then the French Airforce is even shitter then I thought, the GNA are pushing the LNA back.

    Despite this "Air Support" Yes those guys "Support" Haftar but only because it seems like right now he could MAYBE win, they aren't providing him with aid or help in the fight, no real help anyways.

    Cause Haftar could use ALLLL the help he can get right now.

    English propably is not your strength. I said France bombs targets in southern libya and with that supports Haftar.

    France wants a strong secular leader in Libya and what we want becomes reality.

    Sarraj has no power anyways. Time to wipe this shit away.

    They aren't bombing anywhere in libya.

    Yet his forces are defeating the LNA right now.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:47 pm

    LNA looking like they going to lose Tripoli international airport.
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    Post  Aristide on Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:42 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:LNA looking like they going to lose Tripoli international airport.

    How much we bet that Haftar wins? Smile

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