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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  Sujoy on Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:55 am

    ricky123 wrote:thanks Very Happy how is this going to help russia .. i mean for the development of 5th gen engines ?

    These are two mutually exclusive issues . Development of the 5th gen engine for the PAKFA is NOT dependent on this deal.The JV for the PAKFA was signed even before the Super Sukhoi project was envisaged.

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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  ricky123 on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:20 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    ricky123 wrote:thanks Very Happy how is this going to help russia .. i mean for the development of 5th gen engines ?

    These are two mutually exclusive issues . Development of the 5th gen engine for the PAKFA is NOT dependent on this deal.The JV for the PAKFA was signed even before the Super Sukhoi project was envisaged.
    i thought al41 is uprated from al31 so it might help them cuz it is the same company .and since al41 is gonna be used in pakfa india might benefit from it too ...

    anyway gary answered my question ..i hope this deal improves the company standing in the market and encourage them to come up with even better products in the future
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:41 pm

    The engine going into the PAK FA is a fundamentally new engine that has no relation to the AL-31 except that it is a turbofan engine of course.

    The production of new engines is good for the company as the experience in manufacturing will keep them up to date and provide funding that can be used for further development and testing of new materials.

    For example they could spend some money on a super computer to test thousands of designs a day, compared with a handful that could be built and tested over the same time period and for much more financial outlay(risk).


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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  ricky123 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:59 am



    thanks sujoy and gary respekt

    cant wait for MR.putin ..waiting to see what other good deals we will get santa
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    Post  Sujoy on Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:46 am

    ricky123 wrote:

    thanks sujoy and gary respekt

    cant wait for MR.putin ..waiting to see what other good deals we will get santa

    I suspect India will need more than 1000 engines because the TTSL of each AL-31FP is around 2,000 hours.Maybe arounf 1500 engines eventually but HAL needs to pull it's socks.
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  TR1 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:22 am

    I suspect if the contract is through 2030, we will see Al-31s with longer lifespans.
    RD-33MK and 117S engine life shows how much more can be squeezed out of Soviet designs in terms of overhaul life and service life.

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    India to ink Rs 25,000 crore Sukhoi and helicopter deals with Russia

    Post  ricky123 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:06 pm

    NEW DELHI: India will soon ink defence deals worth around Rs 25,000 crore with Russia, including two mega ones for 42 more Sukhoi-30MKI fighters and 59 additional Mi-17 V5 armed helicopters.

    This will reassert Russia's position as India's largest arms supplier despite Israel, France and US now snapping at its heels. But the expected inking of the final design contract for the joint development of a futuristic stealth fifth-generation fighter will not take place during Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit here on Monday since it is yet to be fully ironed out, sources said.

    This R&D contract is pegged at $11 billion, with India and Russia supposed to chip in with $5.5 billion each. Each 5th Gen fighter - IAF hopes to induct around 200 of them from 2022 onwards - will cost at least $100 million extra. Consequently, as first reported by TOI earlier, India will eventually spend around $35 billion on this gigantic project.

    During the meet with Putin, India will seek Russia's firm assurance that INS Vikramaditya, the refurbished 44,570-tonne Admiral Gorshkov for which $2.33 billion has been paid, is not delayed beyond the re-revised November 2013 delivery deadline.

    New Delhi had earlier also planned to raise the "technical problems" being faced by its solitary nuclear-powered submarine INS Chakra, the Akula-II attack submarine leased from Russia for 10 years at a cost of around $1 billion. "But Moscow has assured the problem will be fixed soon," said a source.

    The 42 new Sukhois, to be produced under licence by defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics, will add to the 230 Sukhois earlier contracted from Russia. Having inducted over 170 Sukhois till now, IAF is now progressively basing these "air dominance" fighters both on the western and eastern fronts with Pakistan and China. Overall, the price tag for the 272 Sukhois - three have crashed since induction - stands over $12 billion.

    The medium-lift Mi-17 V5 helicopters (59 for IAF and 12 for home ministry/BSF), in turn, will add to the 80 such choppers already being inducted under a $1.34 billion deal inked in 2008.

    While India has no plans to acquire more than 272 Sukhois, it has an upgrade plan to convert a bulk of them into 'Super Sukhois' in the years ahead with more advanced avionics, weapons and AESA (active electronically scanned array) radars. "Earlier, the plan was to upgrade 80 of them into 'Super Sukhois' at the cost of around Rs 10,900 crore. Now, the plan is being re-drawn," said the source.
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  TR1 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:21 am

    I have not heard about any technical problems on the Chakra.

    Any details?

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    Post  ricky123 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:47 am

    TR1 wrote:I have not heard about any technical problems on the Chakra.

    Any details?
    no details so far .but i dont think the problems r big

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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  ricky123 on Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:00 pm

    India's only Russian-origin nuclear submarine INS Chakra is facing problems with its critical components which are malfunctioning and affecting its operational readiness. The 8,000-tonne submarine has been facing problems with its critical components and Russia has been asked to provide the parts for the vessel which need to be replaced, Navy sources said here.

    However, they did not divulge the components which would have to be replaced but indicated they are critical for the operations of the submarine. India had inducted the Akula-II Class 'Nerpa' nuclear submarine in its inventory in April, 2012 at the Vishakhapatnam-based Eastern Naval Command. It was renamed 'Chakra' by the Indian Navy.

    The Russian submarine had met with an accident in November 2008 when it was undergoing sea trials in the Sea of Japan in which around twenty sailors were killed and several others were left injured. The submarine was launched in 1993-94 but its construction was held up since then due to lack of funds with the Russian Navy.

    However, in 2004, the Russian side decided to build it after reaching a ten-year lease agreement for operation of the submarine with the Indian side. With INS Chakra and the yet-to-be-inducted indigenously built INS Arihant, India is planning to have two nuclear submarines guarding its vast maritime boundary.

    With a maximum speed of 30 knots, Chakra can go to a depth of 600 metres and has an endurance of 100 days with a crew of 73. However, as per the lease accord, it cannot carry nuclear warheads. The vessel is armed with four 533mm and four 650mm torpedo tubes. India had leased and operated a Charlie-class Russian nuclear submarine, also called 'Chakra', in 1988 for training its personnel on such submarines.

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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  ricky123 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:18 am

    what happened to the engines contract???

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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  Corrosion on Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:41 pm

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    Russia to build DESTROYERS for India

    Post  Sujoy on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:01 pm

    The shaft lines for the Indian Navy’s Project 15B destroyers will be produced by the Baltic Shipyard

    The Baltic Shipyard will produce four sets of shaft lines for India's newest torpedo-boat destroyers under Project 15B, which will be built at shipyards in Mumbai from 2018 to 2024, a source in the Russian defence industry told Interfax.

    The shafts are expected to be ready by 2017, Baltic Shipyard said on its website: “Under the terms of the contract concluded between Baltic Shipyard LLC, Rosoboronexport, and the foreign customer, Baltic Shipyard is to produce four sets of shaft lines by the year 2017.”

    The statement notes that the first contracts for such machine parts were fulfilled by the enterprise in the early 1990s, while shafts for the predecessor Project 15A were made in 2007-2009.

    The source in the Russian defence industry clarified that the shaft lines were for four Project 15B destroyers, currently being built for the Indian Navy at the shipyards of Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) in Mumbai. Engineers of Northern Design Bureau (St Petersburg) had been involved in designing the blueprint of the destroyer, according to the source.

    Indian Defence Minister A K Antony previously stated that his ministry had signed a contract with MDL in January 2011 for the construction of four new Project 15B destroyers. The ships are due to be built sequentially in June 2018, 2020, 2022, and 2024.

    Three ships of the Project 15A guided-missile destroyers are being constructed in the MDL. The four Project 15B destroyers are essentially upgraded Project 15A ships, with changes in the superstructure that will improve stealth and include better sound and infrared suppression systems. The displacement of each Project 15B ship will be about 8,000 tonnes and they will operate two helicopters.

    The Project 15B ships will be armed with the Nirbhay land attack cruise missile, which has a 1,000 km range, the hypersonic Brahmos-2 anti-ship cruise missile, with a 300 km range and Extended Range Surface to Air Missile also known as Barak 8ER, which has a 120 km range.
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  TR1 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:25 pm

    Talk about a bombastic head line Very Happy

    Are there any recent photos of the INS Kolkata?
    The last pic I saw was all 3 ships being worked on/fitting out in Mumbai.
    Sea trials were supposed to start last year, what is the word?

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    The shaft lines for the Indian Navy’s Project 15B destroyers will be produced by the Baltic Shipyard

    Post  Sujoy on Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:32 am

    TR1 wrote:Talk about a bombastic head line Very Happy

    Are there any recent photos of the INS Kolkata?
    The last pic I saw was all 3 ships being worked on/fitting out in Mumbai.
    Sea trials were supposed to start last year, what is the word?

    Sea trials will happen after the ship is inducted into the Indian Navy because the trials need to proceed under IN supervision. October 2013 is probably when the ship will be operational. I hope Russia is seriously thinking about network-centric features & solutions, like Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC)not just for the Project 15A but for other Russian warships as well .

    Did you see this pic of the Project 15A(Kolkata Class Destroyer).

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    Post  Viktor on Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:23 pm

    Russia will supply India 67 Mi-17V-5, said Rosoboronexport


    MOSCOW, Aug. 26 - RIA Novosti. Russia in 2013 signed a contract with India for the supply of 67 military transport helicopters Mi-17V-5, according to the press service of "Rosoboronexport".

    "It is expected that the most dynamic segments in 2013 will be the rotorcraft and air defense systems, the volume of exports which will increase by 20% and 30%, respectively. Among the major agreements" Rosoboronexport "since the beginning of 2013 - a contract with India the supply of an additional batch of military transport helicopters Mi-17V-5 (59 units for the Air Force and 8 units for the Ministry of Internal Affairs), "- said in a statement.



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    RUSSIA - INDIA Contracts

    Post  Sujoy on Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:10 am

    India Signs $55M in Deals With MIG at MAKS 2013

    RIA Novosti wrote:Russia’s MiG fighter jet maker has signed two additional contracts with India worth a total $55 million, the corporation said Wednesday.
    They are part of a general contract with India’s air force.

    Under the first, $43 million contract, a servicing center will be established in India for maintenance and repair of Zhuk-ME on-board radars, MiG representatives said.

    The second, $12 million contract provides for the creation in India of a servicing center for modernized MiG-29UPG fighter jets.
    Russia will deliver six MiG-29K Fulcrum “generation 4++” fighters to India this year as part of a 2010 contract for 29 planes worth $1.5 billion, MiG CEO Sergei Korotkov said at the MAKS-2013 international air and space show.

    India currently has 21 aircraft. Under the contract, MiG is to deliver 29 planes before 2015, Korotkov said. Last year four aircraft were delivered and one has been delivered so far this year, he added.
    http://en.ria.ru/world/20130828/183025883/India-Signs-55M-in-Deals-With-Russias-MiG-Fighter-Jet-Maker.html
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  Sujoy on Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:59 pm

    India to replace bursting T-72 tank barrels under US$ 25,000,000 deal with Russia

    Economic Times wrote:Seeking to address the issue of bursting barrels of Army tanks due to ammunition, the government is planning to replace them with canons of T-90 tanks in collaboration with Russia.

    T-72 tanks, the mainstay of the Indian armoured fleet, are facing problems with their ammunition as they sometimes burst in the barrel and 200 such cases have been reported causing concern in the Army.

    The Defence Ministry is planning to replace the barrels of the T-72 tanks with the ones fitted in the T-90 tanks. Under the plan, around 800 barrels are to be procured from Russia under a deal expected to be worth around Rs 1,500 crore, government sources told PTI here.

    The issue is expected to be taken up for discussion during the high-level talks between India and Russia during the visit of Defence Secretary Radha Kant Mathur to Moscow next week, they said.

    Earlier this year, the Army told a Parliamentary panel that barrels burst sometimes due to ammunition and wondered whether its troops will be "afraid" to fire even after seeing the enemy.

    "It (the T-72 ammunition) used to burst in the barrel. If it bursts in the barrel, then the firer is afraid to fire his own gun, which is not a correct thing. If he is afraid to fire his own gun, then even if he sees the enemy he will not fire," the Army had told the Standing Committee on Defence.

    The Army informed the government and the Parliamentary Committee that over a period of time, there have been 200 such accidents involving the ammunition and "it brings down the confidence of the firer, especially, with regard to tank ammunition".

    In terms of the numbers, the T-72 tanks are the backbone of the Indian armoured fleet and have undergone several upgrades since their induction to be able to fight effectively in the battlefield.
    http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-08-28/news/41538730_1_t-72-tanks-tank-ammunition-t-90-tanks
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  Viktor on Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:44 pm

    Saga coming to an end. Finally.

    Russia to hand over Vikramaditya on Nov. 15
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  Viktor on Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:24 am

    India buys 236 Russian tanks (could this be T-90ms?)

    MoD gives nod for procuring military planes, battle tanks
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  TR1 on Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:29 am

    Hmmm, very interesting.
    The Russian Army standard "T-90MS" is supposed to be unveiled soon, so hopefully India goes for the latest and best iteration....the T-90MS we have seen so far is basically a show-piece by Tagil.

    I can practically hear the Bharat-Rakshak tears about "Tin-cans" LMAO

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    Post  a89 on Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:36 am

    I can practically hear the Bharat-Rakshak tears about "Tin-cans" LMAO
    I was thinking exactly the same Very Happy  BTW, isn't their cheerleader -Ajai Shukla- making any comment?
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    Re: RUSSIA - INDIA Military Contracts

    Post  Sujoy on Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:58 pm

    TR1 wrote:The Russian Army standard "T-90MS" is supposed to be unveiled soon, so hopefully India goes for the latest and best iteration....the T-90MS we have seen so far is basically a show-piece by Tagil.
    The T 90 MS was unveiled by Uralvagonzavod during the India Defense Expo in March 2012 . I had taken those pics & had posted them here in this forum , though I forgot which thread .

    http://defense-update.com/20120329_international-debut-for-the-russian-t-90ms-tank-upgrade-at-defexpo-2012.html

    However, India is not purchasing the MS . 236 T-90AMs will be procured off-the-shelf in semi-knocked-down condition & will be assembled by HVF in Avadi .

    As of now only the Defence Acquisitions Council of India’s Defence Ministry has approved the manufacture .Following this contract negotiations will be held & once they’re over only then will the CCNS  give its approval.

    As with everything India ,  a long-drawn out process that will take at least another two years to be concluded & deliveries will begin in only 2015.

    The value of the deal as on this date stands at US$ 1 billion
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