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    Post  Sujoy on Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:42 pm

    Viktor wrote:Sujoy, Austing - anything from India newspapers?

    2nd nuclear submarine lease likely to be 'X factor' in Indo-Russian summit
    Sorry Viktor , I did not notice that you had a question for me .

    However , I have created this thread - Lease of 2nd Russian Submarine to India may be delayed as several Indian scientists working on the nuclear submarine program have ended up dead.

    This will answer your question
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    Post  Sujoy on Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:44 pm

    India purchases licence to manufacture Invar anti-tank missiles


    Using the latest Russian technology, India is expected to manufacture a further 15,000 Invar missiles for the T-90 tank.

    India will receive a manufacturing licence to produce 15,000 Russian Invar anti-tank missiles, which were designed for the T-90 tank. New Delhi previously purchased 10,000 of these missiles from Russia (produced directly by the manufacturer). The average cost will be around $2,000 per missile following acquisition of the manufacturing licence.

    In accordance with existing agreements, India is to receive around 1,400 T-90 tanks by the end of this decade. The T-90 first entered service in 1993, and India is the largest country to use this system. India is planning to form 21 tank battalions by 2020, all equipped with the T-90 tank.

    http://www.i-mash.ru/news/zarub_sobytiya/43449-indija-kupila-proizvodstvennuju-licenziju-na.html
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:08 pm

    Antony to reach Russia on Friday, focus on nuclear submarine, FGFA Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/india/antony-to-reach-russia-on-friday-focus-on-nuclear-submarine-fgfa-1230163.html?utm_source=ref_article

    Two interesting moments:


    - > Sources also said if the negotiations were to be wrapped up, India would like to go for construction of a new submarine, rather than buying one off-the-shelf.
    - > If all goes well, India would finance the construction of the new submarine in Russia. For Russia’s part, Russia will handle maintenance and overhauls. 


    - > The FGFA project promises to be the single biggest joint defence programme in the coming years. If the negotiations are sealed as per India’s plans, India would be spending around $ 35 billion on the advanced stealth fighters project over the next two decades for inducting 250-300 of the planes from 2020 onwards. 
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    Post  Sujoy on Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:29 pm

    Viktor wrote:Sources also said if the negotiations were to be wrapped up, India would like to go for construction of a new submarine, rather than buying one off-the-shelf.
    - > If all goes well, India would finance the construction of the new submarine in Russia. For Russia’s part, Russia will handle maintenance and overhauls.
    I sincerely hope that India buys a Nuclear Submarine from Russia rather than taking one on lease .

    Indian Navy now has considerable experience in handling a nuclear submarine after fine tuning their skills on the INS Chakra ( the first nuclear sub leased from Russia) .

    The only issue with a leased submarine is that during a war you cannot use that submarine if need be , for the simple reason tht it is not your's . Therefore , outright purchase makes more sense.
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    Post  Viktor on Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:01 pm

    Well I think it was a good offer and now its up to India to produce even better IFV. 

    India refused to BMP-3 in favor of their own "car of the future"

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    Post  Mindstorm on Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:56 pm


    It appear that i was good at foreseeing, almost an year ago, Indian rejection of BMP-3's offer in exchange for FICV program termination.  Wink 




    Mindstorm wrote: In my opinion India , at reason , will never accept to give up its FICV -Futuristic Infantry Combat Vehicle- project for production of BMP-3/3M IFV, the technical requirements in play are too different in level and sophistication to allow a similar compromise to happen.

    Post n. 5 of "Russia offers India BMP-3 vehicles" thread.


    Very likely also the technical reasons at the basis of this move are equally not too far from those highlighted by me at post 32 of the same thread



    Mindstorm wrote:No variant of BMP-3 will meet technical requirements of Indian Army for FIFV program.

    Indian Army must obviously assure that its FICV will retain operational significance in a future battlefield environment ,therefore the vehicle should integrate the most modern solutions both in the defensive department :

    1) Passive protection (in particular new composites and meta-alloys)
    2) Active protection (APS, soft kill systems )
    3) NBC shielding (in particular new anti-meutron fillers and also....EMP/HP microwave shielding for electronic components)
    4) Multispectral signature reduction (both in-built and through mass-produceable camo-coverage)

    In the offensive department:

    1) Improved medium caliber gun (40 mm or over)
    2) New type of medium caliber munitions, even better if telescopic (capable to engage ANY sub-MBT menace on and over the battlefield )
    3) Stand-off missiles with very high jamming immunity

    In the mobility department:

    1) Full amphibious capabilities
    2) Active suspension systems
    3) Composite transmission
    4) New generation engines (with high specific power and very low fuel consumption)

    In ther vectronic department:

    1) Multi sensor data unification
    2) Sensors working on very wide electromagnetic bands
    3) Capability to process indipendently data stream coming from third part assets
    4) Capability to guide indipendently reconnaissance UAVs


    Therefore India don't need BMP-3/3M ,but it need a perspective IFV built on the same basis principles of BMP-3/3M : a machine designed to fight and win a major war against a very powerful enemy (BMP-3s and BTR-80s was intended and capable to let the bulk of Soviet mechanized infantry to transverse indipendently the English Channel from various points !)



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    Post  Sujoy on Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:56 pm

    Russia, India to revive arms maintenance factory in Afghanistan

    “India and Russia will jointly help revive the maintenance factory. Experts have already met and are discussing the details,” Afghanistan’s Ambassador to India Shaida M Abdali told the paper. The hardware maintenance facility was built by the Soviet Union and is near Kabul. Several armaments from the Soviet days are still in the country and the ambassador told an Indian media briefing that the facility would be maintained by experts from Russia and India.

    Revival of the factory will be high on the list of priorities when Hamid Karzai visits India on December 12. Ahead of the visit, Afghanistan has asked for a large list of arms. According to an article in The Daily Mail, the list includes 150 battle tanks, 120 (105 mm) field guns, a large number of 82 mm mortars and medium lift transport aircraft (AN-32). Sources told the paper that India would work closely with Russia and other powers to ensure stability in the country. “Afghanistan cannot be permitted to slide back into the tumultuous days of Taliban. An effort is being made to synchronize the rebuilding effort,” sources told the Daily Mail.

    Russia and India have many common interests in Afghanistan, the most important of which being keeping the Taliban from seizing power in the country. Together with Iran, they propped up the Northern Alliance, which comprised soldiers from mainly non-Pashtun ethnic groups like Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks, Turkmen and others. It was the Northern Alliance which played a leading role in the ouster of the Taliban in the wake of Operation Enduring Freedom.

    Russia also faces the danger of Islamic extremism emanating from Afghanistan which has already had an impact on Dagestan, Ingushetia and Chechnya. Many of these extremists were trained in Afghanistan during the heyday of the Taliban.

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    Post  Sujoy on Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:03 pm

    Viktor wrote:Well I think it was a good offer and now its up to India to produce even better IFV. 

    India refused to BMP-3 in favor of their own "car of the future"


    No , not quite a good offer . Coz if the BMP 3 is a vehicle for the future, Russia too would not have invested in IFV programs .

    Moreover , Rosoboronexport is one of the participant in the Indian IFV competition . They have tied up with the Govt. owned Ordinance Factory Board (OFB) .

    I think it would have been better for Russia to make a PAK FA style offer and get India involved in the Kurganet program . So that wherever necessary India could tailor made certain aspect of the Kurganet IFV to it's own liking .

    As far as the Indian IFV competition is concerned it is in suspended animation . The current focus is on procuring tanks . No major Defense deals are expected to be signed before 2015 . In between there is still time for Russia to encourage India to get involved in the Kurganet project .
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:45 pm

    Inviting India to check out Armata/Boomerang/Kurganets is what they should have done from the start, not go halfway with BMP-3.

    These armored vehicles are designed from the start to be modular, and considering how much easier it is to modify an IFV than a plane to the user's needs (no aerodynamics to worry about for one Wink ) India could very well ask and receive whatever changes it wants within a modest cost/time frame.

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    Post  Viktor on Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:18 pm

    Interesting. After India canceled deals with AgustaWestland because of corruption

    India terminates AgustaWestland helicopter deal

    Indian delegation is in visit to Russia to buy some ViP helicopters  Very Happy 


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    Post  Viktor on Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:14 pm

    And its official  Very Happy 

    India buys 12 ViP helicopters from Russia

    India chooses Russian helicopters for VVIPs

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:49 pm

    They are not buying anymore it looks like, just taking some of the Mi-17s ordered and using them for VIP purposes.
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    Post  Viktor on Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:28 pm

    TR1 wrote:They are not buying anymore it looks like, just taking some of the Mi-17s ordered and using them for VIP purposes.

    You are right. But nevertheless its a nice steep forward instead of Italians.

    India is preparing huge modernization of T-72 taks

    "Uralvagonzavod" India will offer two versions of modernization of T-72

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    Post  Austin on Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:52 am

    Russia Retains Dominance in India

    Russia Retains Dominance in India
    By Dr Nikolai Novichkov
    Issue:  Vol. 29.1 Jan-Mar 2014    | Date : 07 Feb , 2014



    Today, some 70% of India’s weapons and arsenals are manufactured in Russia. However, in recent years Russia’s military complex faces the stiffening competition on the part of foreign rivals, the US and Israel in the first place.

    India is our strategic partner with whom we have cooperated for over 50 years. Ours are very deep and confidential relations, materialized, among other things, in the transfer of high technologies.

    According to Alexander Fomin, director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC), in 2013 India still remained Russia’s largest partner in military collaboration with foreign countries. “India is the principal consumer of our defense materiel both in general terms and in individual types of weapons. Last year, India was still our number one customer for defense products. By rough estimate, this makes up 30% of all of our military exports in terms of cost,” said A.Fomin.

    Assuring, in 2013, US$ 13 billion worth of arms sales, Rosoboronexport brought up the total of defense order portfolio to US$ 38.5 billion. Under the current contracts, each year it ships defense products to India worth around US$ 3 billion.

    “India is our strategic partner with whom we have cooperated for over 50 years. Ours are very deep and confidential relations, materialized, among other things, in the transfer of high technologies. We have been doing this for several decades now. With our assistance India has built many defense enterprises. Some technologies have been made available to our Indian partners literally 100% complete,” said the head of FSMTC. In his words, “it’s hard to find another instance of such partnership.”

    During Russian President Vladimir Putin’s visit to India in October 2013 and his talks with India’s Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Russia and India agreed to expand cooperation in rocket engineering, naval technologies and weapon systems. Specifically, the parties pointed out the achievements in joint design, development and production of high-tech weapons and implementation of such projects as creation of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), multi-role transport aircraft (MTA) and BrahMos supersonic missile. Participants of the talks also welcomed the transfer to India in 2013 of the Russian-built Trigand frigate, the course of licensed production in India of the Su-30MKI aircraft and T-90S tanks, and the successful completion of trials of the aircraft carrier Vikramaditya.

    Putin and Singh pointed out that “the two countries’ traditionally close cooperation in defense matters is a key factor in the Russo-Indian partnership, showing the high level of trust between the two states.”

    On the eve of his visit to Russia, in an interview to the Russian journalists Mr. Singh revealed that India plans to finish as soon as possible the comprehensive engineering work on the joint projects to create the FGFA and MTA and start their series production. According to him, India regards those projects as milestones in the Indo-Russian military and technical cooperation. “They symbolize the transformation of our defense relations from the former “buyer-and-seller” status to the one that includes joint design, development and production of defense products,” said the Prime Minister.

    Some of the Russian exhibits are expressly designed for the Indian market and will be demonstrated in New Delhi for the first time.

    That is why the Russian defense enterprises actively participate in the DEFEXPO-2014 exhibition of land, naval and internal security systems. Some of the Russian exhibits are expressly designed for the Indian market and will be demonstrated in New Delhi for the first time.

    In particular, the most interesting Russian exhibits will include an upgrade package for the T-72 main battle tank (MBT). This will be presented by the Uralvagonzavod Corporation (UVZ). The T-72 tank is currently the most widely used tank in service with 40 odd countries across the globe. The T-72 tank modernization projects are a particularly pressing issue in the light of latest military conflicts taking place mainly in urban conditions.

    The UVZ offers two T-72 tank modernization projects which, following the implementation, make the machine into one of world’s best modern tanks. The first project envisions fitting the T-72 with a set of protection gear to ensure the crew’s survival in an urban warfare where anti-tank weapon systems, including radio-controlled mine obstacles, are employed.

    The upgraded T-72 MBT may be fitted with dedicated devices, including roadblocks and debris removing systems, for operation in a city. This enables the tank commander to fire from a protected machinegun mount. The auxiliary gear includes a modular set of ERA on the tank sides and turret, protection of the cabin type of the anti-aircraft machinegun mount (commander’s cabin), RP-377UVM1L remotely controlled explosives neutralization system, and TBS-86 bulldozer.

    The tank provides high firepower, superior agility and excellent protection. Installed on the tank are the 2A46M5 cannon and automatic loader that enable firing missiles to a range of up to 5 km. The gun-layer sight with an optical thermal imaging channel ensures a day-and-night operation of the machine in all weathers. The rangefinder measures the distance out to 7 km.
    The second project is the upgraded T-72 tank fitted with the Arena-E hard-kill active protection system (APS) giving the tank a 360 degree protection against anti-tank weapon systems, anti-tank grenade launchers, artillery shaped charge projectiles and anti-tank guided missiles, including those attacking the tank in an over-flight.

    Over recent years Russia and India ought to have realized that they must set up more joint ventures to develop and subsequently produce defense products.

    The DEFEXPO-2014 exhibition presents a new configuration of hard-kill APS enabling placement of the Arena-E on virtually all types of vehicles. This differs from the previous version of APS in that the onboard radar station is divided into several units placed so that it does not hamper the tank in performance of other duties. The new version of the Arena-E can be fitted on the T-72, T-72B, T-90 and other types of tanks.

    The UVZ makes the first presentation in India of its Terminator-2 BMPT-72 tank support vehicle. This is one of the T-72 upgrade versions. The machine is built using the undercarriages of the T-72 tanks now being withdrawn from service. The BMPT-72 machine can be built at the customers’ repair facilities with the use of upgrade packages supplied by the UVZ.

    The development of the BMPT-72 took into account the experience of creating and using the basic Terminator BMPT version. The Terminator-2, like its basic prototype, provides a high level of firepower, protection, and controllability by the commander. It can effectively perform the functions of fire support for tanks and infantry in all types of hostilities, in various climates and at all times of day and night. However, the BMPT-72 differs from the previous model in a number of aspects such as an improved fire control and orientation system; the first, on such tanks, protection of guided missile launchers against fragments and small arms; a provision for installation of a more powerful propulsion unit; as per customer request, the machine can be fitted with a 840 to 1,000 hp powerplant and communications systems of Russian or other country’s manufacture; the tank crew can be reduced to 3 men.

    The chief advantage of the BMPT-72 is that as a T-72 platform-based system it extends the machine’s service life and raises the land force’s operational capability at a minimum cost.

    The BMPT-72 combat weight is 44 tons. Mounted on the machine is a powerful automatic weapon system including two 2A42 30mm automatic cannons and the PKTM 7.62mm machine gun, twinned with them and enabling neutralization of lightly armored targets and manpower. Two twin launchers contain supersonic missiles capable of destroying highly protected targets in the entire firing range with a kill probability close to 100%.

    The automatic weapons are amply supplied with ammunition, up to 850 rounds for the cannons and 21,000 for the twin machinegun. All the remotely controlled weapons (automatic cannons, machinegun, and guided missiles) are placed on the superstructure outside the manned compartment. The automatic fire control system operates round the clock using a multi-channel sighting device ensuring a reliable detection, identification and destruction of targets.

    The UVZ makes the first presentation in India of its Terminator-2 BMPT-72 tank support vehicle. This is one of the T-72 upgrade versions.

    The Tula-based KBP Instrument Design Bureau from JSC NPO “High-Precision Weapons” presents for the first time in India its ADS automatic rifle capable of operating in two media. At present it has no analogues on the small arms market. The automatic rifle is designed on the bullpup principle. The key feature of this specimen of weapon is the ammunition it uses. The specialists of the Central Design and Research Bureau of Sporting and Hunting Weapons, a branch of the KBP, created a special underwater cartridge based on the standard 5.45×39 case denoted as PSP-UD. This is contained in the Kalashnikov rifle’s (as designed in 1974) standard 30-round magazine. The rifle can simultaneously fire all types of 5.45 mm munitions. Thus the KBP specialists resolved the problem of using the rifle in two media. For switching between the above- and underwater fire the weapon barrel has a special fire mode selector. The used cartridges are ejected forward through a short pipe on the right side of the barrel. Such a design decision is resorted to for the first time. This has reduced the gas accumulation in front of the rifleman’s face.
    The automatic rifle is fitted with the Picatinny rail for mounting various sights. Instead of the under-barrel grenade launcher it is possible to fit the Skat hydro-acoustic search and track system. The rifle has a set of on-barrel devices, including a general purpose noise reducer, blank cartridge firing device, and compensating flash-hider. In the future, it may be fitted with a laser target designator and tactical target searcher. Also, the ADS rifle has a 40 mm under-barrel grenade launcher capable of firing VOG-25 and VOG-25P grenades.

    The trigger has an automatic safety catch reliably protecting from a shot during the weapon fall. The under-barrel grenade launcher is fitted with a pendulum safety. The developers claim such safeties do not hamper effective firing with a diver’s gloves on. Thanks to a special weight distribution, whose centre is in the ADS handgrip area, the weapon can be fired one-handed.
    The underwater cartridge firing range is 40 m at a depth of 5 m, in above water conditions it is 500-600 m. PSD-UD rounds can be fired on land.

    Russia has made a great deal of progress in cooperation with India on developing and producing the BRAHMOS family of supersonic cruise missiles. Dr. A.Sivathanu Pillai, head of BrahMos Aerospace Company, believes Russia will outstrip its competitors in India by establishing joint enterprises here. “From the 1960s through the 1980 India fully depended on contracts with the USSR and on the transfer of Soviet technologies,” he said. “After the breakup of the Soviet Union, new rivals emerged here for Russia. Supplying their weapons and equipment, they will reduce the scope of the Russo-Indian defense cooperation.”
    According to him, “Over recent years Russia and India ought to have realized that they must set up more joint ventures to develop and subsequently produce defense products. The development of BRAHMOS cruise missiles successfully shows it could be done,” explained Pillai. “India and Russia are great friends. I’d rather say that Russia is a sole true friend of India. If we wish to maintain the former scale of defense cooperation, we must increase the number of joint ventures, especially those engaged in the development of high-technology products. This will enable Russia to outperform and leave behind its rivals in India.”
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    Post  Viktor on Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:32 pm

    Russia helping India in carrier construction - it is really nice to see such advanced lvl of cooperation.


    Neva Design Bureau participates in the construction of the new Indian aircraft carrier project 71
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    Post  Sujoy on Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:32 pm

    Viktor wrote:Russia helping India in carrier construction - it is really nice to see such advanced lvl of cooperation.


    Neva Design Bureau participates in the construction of the new Indian aircraft carrier project 71

    Yes, this is true . Yesterday I was speaking with individuals from Cochin Shipyard at Defense Expo in Delhi and they said exactly the same thing .

    BTW - Cochin also has a sizeable Russian population .

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    Post  Austin on Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:51 pm

    Sujoy wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Russia helping India in carrier construction - it is really nice to see such advanced lvl of cooperation.


    Neva Design Bureau participates in the construction of the new Indian aircraft carrier project 71

    Yes, this is true . Yesterday I was speaking with individuals from Cochin Shipyard at Defense Expo in Delhi and they said exactly the same thing .

    BTW - Cochin also has a sizeable Russian population .
    what did you gather from defexpo can you share ?
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    Post  Sujoy on Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:50 pm

    Austin wrote:what did you gather from defexpo can you share ?

    A ton of Press Releases and Brochures .

    Mostly spend time with Indian companies . Heard that Naval DPSUs have got some impressive contracts in Thailand and Mauritius .

    One interesting thing I noticed at the Rosoboronexport Pavilion was the presence of Gazprombank . This is probably an indication that given the liquidity crunch in India Russian banks can make easy availability of funds if India chooses Russian hardware .

    Gazprombank had no presence during DefExpo 2010 & 2012.
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    Post  Viktor on Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:54 am

    Nice  thumbsup 


    "Star" wants to take to repair two Indian submarine until June

    2 subs will be repaired and modernized in Russia and 2 more in India shipyard
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    Nice  thumbsup 

    Russia has delivered 28 fighters to India modernized Sukhoi Su-30MKI under a contract in 2012, announced Wednesday in Singapore the President of the Russian Irkut Oleg Demchenko group.
    "We carry out the contract on the delivery of 42 fighter aircraft for the Indian Air Force. We have already delivered 28 fighters, it remains to provide the other 14 aircraft," said M.Demtchenko at the Singapore Airshow.

    Angola will be delivered 12 of the 18 Su-30K returned from India. The remaining six aircraft will be delivered to hunt another country.

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    What is the current number of Su-30 in Indian AF?
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:43 pm

    Almaz-Antey and one Indian company are modernizing Indian SA-8


    One of the promising areas of such cooperation is the execution of works to restore and extend the life of equipment, previously delivered in more than 50 countries. In particular, concern is now a project services to extend the life of the SAM missiles "AKM" , consisting on the Indian Air Force, which is carried out with the participation of one of the Indian companies.

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    Post  Sujoy on Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:51 am

    Viktor wrote:What is the current number of Su-30 in Indian AF?

    170 SU 30 MKI in operation with Indian Air force .

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    Post  Viktor on Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:56 am

    Sujoy wrote:
    Viktor wrote:What is the current number of Su-30 in Indian AF?

    170 SU 30 MKI  in operation with Indian Air force .  



    Tnx Sujoy and thats how many Su-30MKI per year?

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