Gepard class frigate for Caspian Sea

From what I understand no more of these were built to fullfill the request by Vietnamese Navy because of no more engines from Ukraine.

Well to be fair the new model UKSK launchers can also carry surface to air missiles too, so by having a third UKSK launcher you can mix and match your load depending on the situation.

According to this image:



Each tube can carry a single 9M96 missile (140km or 60km range model), or one Shtil-1 naval BUK missile, four 9M100 per tube or the last tube is a single 40N6 400km range SAM.

That means you could load up one UKSK launcher with 8 x 400km range SAMs or 8 x 140km or 8 x 60km range or 32 short range CIWS 9M100 missiles, in addition to any missiles in the SAM launchers.

Podlodka77 wrote:The problem is solved and the Russians have released the basic features and specifications for the Gepard 3.9 guard ships...
It turned out that the mockup foresees the installation of 3 UKSK and not two as I wrote and one for 9K96 Redut and not two as I wrote. That's what I find strange and I don't like it. I am of the opinion that two UKSK and two 9K96 Redut launchers..
It is also planned to install Paket-NK on the ship, as well as the installation of the "Palma" close air defense system.
Two diesel engines of 10,000 kilowatts per engine would be responsible for powering the ship.

Look at the thing from perspective, again.
It is about the size of Saar6.
Does not look bad at all from the perspective, and the perspective is one of the most modern frigates out there.
Will operate from closed seas/internal waters, covered with on shore AD assets.
It is a missile carrier.
And with both Redut and double Palma, it is hell of AD weaponry on board I would say.
My question is if it gets the Vinetka towed antenna or only underkeel Zarya - a combination was offered with export Gepard class for a while.

It is a nice, versatile ship with a strong push toward land attack role.

Podlodka77 wrote:The problem is solved and the Russians have released the basic features and specifications for the Gepard 3.9 guard ships...
It turned out that the mockup foresees the installation of 3 UKSK and not two as I wrote and one for 9K96 Redut and not two as I wrote. That's what I find strange and I don't like it. I am of the opinion that two UKSK and two 9K96 Redut launchers..
It is also planned to install Paket-NK on the ship, as well as the installation of the "Palma" close air defense system.
Two diesel engines of 10,000 kilowatts per engine would be responsible for powering the ship.

IMO 6 of these would have been a better value then the 22160 class.

Both serve different roles.

Redut take almost same space as uksk.

But Redut is less flexible than UKSK at the moment.

Redut carries one 9M96 missile or four 9M100 missiles per tube, but so does UKSK.

The difference is that UKSK can also carry a range of other missiles and equipment too including land attack and anti ship as well as anti sub weapons all of which would be useful too.

And You still needs radars and dedicated control stations even if you fit AD missiles in uksk.

The newer SAMs are ARH and probably just need datalink communications and target updates rather than their own dedicated radars.

This is a good solution for a green water navy. Or for local deployements like in Syria. But not for a blue water force.

Being a frigate that is just sensible isn't it?

And with both Redut and double Palma, it is hell of AD weaponry on board I would say.

Both systems together give it air defence performance levels approaching that of modern British destroyers... and if you load SAMs in two of its UKSK launchers it could be rather better armed with 8 Zircon missiles and 16 x 400km range SAMs and you have Palma and Redut...

I would rather go for two UKSK and two launchers for the air defense system, but who am I to decide..

If the UKSK launchers can also carry SAMs then it would make more sense to have three of them.

IMO 6 of these would have been a better value then the 22160 class.

The Buyan is a pirate hunter designed to operate for long periods away from Russian waters... a different type of ship.

I suspect the Buyan would also be interesting developed up to Frigate size as an escort type ship to support Russian trade around the world without spending too much money on huge numbers of destroyers and cruisers.