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    Russian-Made Crash Notification

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:16 pm

    They came too fast Shocked altimetre was dead for sure and they had no visibility.

    A large plane like this is full of fuel when it takes off and normally takes off with way too much weight to safely land.

    Normally it is not a problem because the plane is flying somewhere and by the time it gets there it has burned off 20+ tons of fuel so it is much lighter when it tries to land.

    This aircraft tried to land without a big flight to burn off some fuel, so it was seriously over weight... which means it takes a lot more room to slow down and all the bumps on the runway incur more stress on the structure which is not designed to land at those sorts of weights.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:42 pm

    Note the damage on the top of the fuselage on this Tu-22M which crashed in 2017.

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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:21 pm

    Close examination of the Tu-22M3 crash video allows this conclusion.


    Joseph Dempsey
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    While #Russia MoD reportedly stated the Tu-22M3 involved was not carrying weapons imagery suggests at very least an [unarmed] Kh-22 training round on port wing.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:41 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Close examination of the Tu-22M3 crash video allows this conclusion.


    Joseph Dempsey
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    While #Russia MoD reportedly stated the Tu-22M3 involved was not carrying weapons imagery suggests at very least an [unarmed] Kh-22 training round on port wing.

    Evidence in picture of video or is it Twatter rumor?
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:01 am

    miketheterrible wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Close examination of the Tu-22M3 crash video allows this conclusion.


    Joseph Dempsey
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    13h13 hours ago

    While #Russia MoD reportedly stated the Tu-22M3 involved was not carrying weapons imagery suggests at very least an [unarmed] Kh-22 training round on port wing.

    Evidence in picture of video or is it Twatter rumor?
    Enlarged frames from the video at about the moment the aircraft split.

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    https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1089320288553177088
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    Post  hoom on Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:14 am

    Youtube of the crash (presumably same as on twitter)

    They've nearly flown into the ground, nose down with a very late flare -> still sinking too quick & broke on impact.
    Obviously horrendous visibility.
    Is it just me or ground looks lower before the runway? Could cause them to think they were higher relative to the runway than they were.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:47 am

    A training round is not a weapon.

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