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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:27 pm

    Whilst it may seem a bit premature to start a thread now we all know that there will be one.

    Over the next few months there will be comments on it and rather than lose them in other threads I thought it would be a good idea to put them in one place.

    I will start it off with a self explanatory post picked up from MoA.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:29 pm

    From a German who has lived in Petersburg for about 17 years and has been to Donbass and other theaters of war. Has a connection to the Foreign Ministry spokeswoman in the Kremlin.

    Excerpt on Putin's conditions.
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    In this article I will list what Russia will demand in peace negotiations. I deliberately use the phrase “will demand” rather than “may demand” because I have learned a lot about this from sources and am therefore pretty sure that these are the demands that the Russian government will make. I'm not disseminating any secret information, because these things are discussed very openly in Moscow. The only reason I'm putting these things together here is because I haven't seen an article that does this.
    First of all, it should be said that the demands clearly show what I have reported again and again: Russia does not see itself at war with Ukraine, but rather it sees itself at war with the collective West. And since the West is dominated by the USA and the USA dictates policy to its satellites, practically all Russian demands are ultimately directed at the USA. There are no demands on Kiev or the EU because Moscow knows that the governments in Kiev and the EU states are not sovereign anyway and are largely just implementing instructions from Washington.
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    Let's move on to the Russian demands.

    Reinstate treaties broken by the US

    The USA has terminated or even broken an enormous number of international treaties. The USA has terminated virtually all disarmament treaties with Russia over the last 20 years; you can find a compilation of the treaties here.

    But there are also treaties that the US-led West has broken, for example the NATO-Russia Founding Act of 1997. In it, NATO made a binding commitment not to station any troops in the then newly added Eastern European NATO member states. As we know, NATO has long since violated the treaty, which is still in force, for example by the USA deploying its so-called “missile defenses” in Poland and Romania, or by deploying NATO troops in the Baltics.

    NATO justifies these deployments with the alleged “Russian threat” that has arisen, but that does not change the fact that this is a blatant breach of a valid international treaty. And this is far from the only international treaty that the US has broken alone or together with its satellites.

    During peace negotiations, Russia would demand the reinstatement or renegotiation of the disarmament treaties terminated by the USA (ABM, INF, NEW START Treaty and Open Skies Agreement). Russia would also demand the re-implementation of the NATO-Russia Founding Act. In general, Russia is likely to return to the demands it proposed to the US and NATO in the mutual security guarantees of December 2021. At that time, Russia called, among other things, for a Europe free of nuclear weapons, i.e. the withdrawal of US nuclear weapons in Europe, with Russia then moving its nuclear weapons behind the Urals.

    The demand for reinstatement of existing agreements would also apply to the World Trade Organization (WTO), which the USA is currently dismantling, largely unnoticed by the Western media. Since the USA no longer likes the rules of the WTO, they are violating them and because the WTO arbitration tribunal finds them guilty, they ignore its rulings and prevent the appointment of new judges, so that the arbitration tribunal has now de facto become unable to trade. I already reported on a very interesting example of this in 2022.

    Lifting of all the Western economic sanctions are also a violation of international law, because only the UN Security Council can impose legal economic sanctions. And of course sanctions lead to breaches of contract if companies are no longer allowed to fulfill their contractual obligations overnight because of new sanctions.

    Russia therefore demands that all illegally imposed sanctions be lifted.

    The fact that Russian athletes are excluded from international competitions is also at the instigation of the West, which is abusing its power in international sports federations to politicize sport. The ban on Russian athletes and the curtailment of the rights of the Russian Olympic Committee are not formally sanctions, but they amount to the same thing, which is why Russia is allowing Russian athletes to participate in international competitions under the Russian flag and the full restoration of the rights of the Russian Olympic Committee demands.

    Investigation into the shooting down of MH17 as the alleged MH17 investigation and trial in the Netherlands was a farce.
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    “Nuremberg Tribunal 2.0”

    As seen, none of the previous demands had anything to do with Ukraine. And this also applies to the remaining claims. Even if they concern Ukraine, you will see that these are things that Russia would discuss with the West or the international community. It goes on and on, I repeat, the East-West conflict is not about Ukraine, it is just the theater of the conflict, but the real problems do not lie in Ukraine.

    Russia is calling for war crimes trials modeled on the Nuremberg Tribunal against those who promoted the state ideology of “Banderaism” in Ukraine, i.e. the worship of the Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and his Nazi ideology. In the West it is often kept quiet, but today's Ukraine, which is supposedly fighting for democracy, reveres a number of people as national heroes who were convicted war criminals, Nazi collaborators and SS men.

    This is also the reason why the denazification of Ukraine is an absolutely serious demand from Russia. Russia is demanding, again following the denazification of Germany, the denazification of Ukraine under international control (for example by the UN Security Council) and a constitutional reform that restores the legal status of Ukraine as a neutral and actually democratic state, which Ukraine has achieved in its Independence written into its constitution.

    In addition, Russia demands the initiation of criminal proceedings against perpetrators and war crimes committed by the so-called nationalist associations (e.g. Right Sector, Trisub), as well as against the “nationalist battalions” (“Azov”, “Aidar”, “Tornado”, etc.). the Ukrainian armed forces, the Ukrainian secret service SBU (which has maintained and maintains torture prisons in Ukraine, the torture has also been confirmed by the UNHCR) and the intelligence service of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense for the period since 2004, when these things occurred in the course of the so-called “Orange Revolution” have begun.

    And last but not least, Russia also calls for the official condemnation of the coups in Ukraine carried out with the help of the USA and the EU, which destroyed Ukrainian statehood and turned Ukraine into an “anti-Russia”. The first coup was the “Orange Revolution” of 2004, in which, under pressure from the US-led West, a third round of presidential elections was held - which was not provided for in the Ukrainian constitution - so that the president wanted by the USA would ultimately win the election . The second coup that Russia has called for condemnation is the infamous Maidan of 2014.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:29 am

    They broke all the existing agreements before, Trump even admitted to breaking them so they can change them to get better conditions and better positions in the agreements.

    Essentially he wanted to renegotiate them in a way that favours the US more.

    In such a situation I wouldn't bother with new agreements, though I think Russia is not going to be so accommodating this time around because many of those agreements were signed at a time when Russia was not in a strong position.

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