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    Russian Navy: Status and News #5

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    Post  Krepost Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:37 pm

    3 part series from NTV channel about the Black Sea Fleet Naval Base in Novorossysk.






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    Post  hoom Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:26 am

    The K thread is locked:

    Google Earth updated & this is the status of the drydock as of 7 Sept 2021
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    Post  franco Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:44 am

    34 ships and submarines will be built for the Russian Navy by 2030


    MOSCOW, December 21. / TASS /. Russian enterprises will build 34 ships and submarines for the Navy by 2030. This was announced on Tuesday by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Sergei Shoigu, at an expanded meeting of the collegium of the military department.

    "A positive example of their [contracts - approx. TASS] implementation was the construction by 2030 of 34 surface ships and submarines, 20 of which are ships of the far sea zone," Shoigu said.

    Three submarines, four surface ships and three coastal missile systems were transferred to the Navy in 2021. "The navy received three modern submarines, four surface ships, 10 combat boats, 17 ships and support boats, as well as three coastal missile systems. This year, the Navy has formed four new military units, including an artillery and naval engineer shelves, "Shoigu said.

    According to him, the coastal infrastructure facilities in Baltiysk and Novorossiysk have been commissioned.

    "Construction of service housing is nearing completion in Gadzhievo (Murmansk Oblast - TASS). It will fully cover the needs of families of submariners, including the crews of new nuclear submarine cruisers entering the fleet in the next four years," the minister said.

    https://tass-ru.translate.goog/armiya-i-opk/13258239?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  calripson Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:58 am

    franco wrote:34 ships and submarines will be built for the Russian Navy by 2030


    MOSCOW, December 21. / TASS /. Russian enterprises will build 34 ships and submarines for the Navy by 2030. This was announced on Tuesday by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Sergei Shoigu, at an expanded meeting of the collegium of the military department.

    "A positive example of their [contracts - approx. TASS] implementation was the construction by 2030 of 34 surface ships and submarines, 20 of which are ships of the far sea zone," Shoigu said.

    Three submarines, four surface ships and three coastal missile systems were transferred to the Navy in 2021. "The navy received three modern submarines, four surface ships, 10 combat boats, 17 ships and support boats, as well as three coastal missile systems. This year, the Navy has formed four new military units, including an artillery and naval engineer shelves, "Shoigu said.

    According to him, the coastal infrastructure facilities in Baltiysk and Novorossiysk have been commissioned.

    "Construction of service housing is nearing completion in Gadzhievo (Murmansk Oblast - TASS). It will fully cover the needs of families of submariners, including the crews of new nuclear submarine cruisers entering the fleet in the next four years," the minister said.

    https://tass-ru.translate.goog/armiya-i-opk/13258239?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

    Anyone have a breakdown of the 34 ships due to be commissioned by 2030.
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    Post  ult Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:23 pm

    calripson wrote:Anyone have a breakdown of the 34 ships due to be commissioned by 2030.

    Amur Shipyard:

    2 20380, 4 20385 (3 of them not laid down yet)

    Severnaya Verf:

    2 20380, 1 20385, 1 20386, 8 22350 (2 of them not laid down yet)

    Sevmash:

    5 955A, 6 885M

    Admiralty Shipyard:

    2 23550, 4 636.3, 5 677 (3 of them not laid down yet)

    Yantar Shipyard:

    2 11711

    Zaliv Shipyard:

    2 23900

    That's from my memory what has been laid down and is under construction right now and has not been commissioned this year. And not counting the small ships.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:13 am


    Russian Navy is finally getting back into shape

    Magical formula from now on is Yasen+Gorshkov+Lada in maximum possible numbers

    Everything else is coming or already came into it's groove

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    Post  Isos Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:35 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russian Navy is finally getting back into shape

    Magical formula from now on is Yasen+Gorshkov+Lada in maximum possible numbers

    Everything else is coming or already came into it's groove

    Lada is a failed class from the 90s. They need to design a new SSK that is better suited to carry modern hardware like AIP (if they want it), UKSK (a VLS with even 4 cells would be good), underwater Paket torpedo system that is being designed for new SSN, spherical sonar...

    Lada design is already 30 years old.
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    Post  Mir Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:25 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Lada is a failed class from the 90s. They need to design a new SSK that is better suited to carry modern hardware like AIP (if they want it), UKSK (a VLS with even 4 cells would be good), underwater Paket torpedo system that is being designed for new SSN, spherical sonar...

    Lada design is already 30 years old.

    I wouldn't exactly call it a failure despite the huge hick-up with the first sample. All of them are destined for the Northern Fleet which is an indication that they are pretty good subs. However the Lada can be considered as an interim design between the Kilo and the Kalina project.

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    Post  Isos Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:45 pm

    Mir wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Lada is a failed class from the 90s. They need to design a new SSK that is better suited to carry modern hardware like AIP (if they want it), UKSK (a VLS with even 4 cells would be good), underwater Paket torpedo system that is being designed for new SSN, spherical sonar...

    Lada design is already 30 years old.

    I wouldn't exactly call it a failure despite the huge hick-up with the first sample. All of them are destined for the Northern Fleet which is an indication that they are pretty good subs. However the Lada can be considered as an interim design between the Kilo and the Kalina project.

    It's a good ship but the class and project is a failure because of USSR destruction and the crisis in the 90s.

    It's a 30 years old project just like Yasen and Borei. Both were upgraded to a more modern standard but even the first ship got modern stuff as they were only partially started in the 90s.

    That first lada was build long time ago. Building more if it would be stupid since they can make a much better class.

    Lada isn't an interim class. Improved kilo is. Improved kilo was build so that they can have a modern sub until thry buikd a new Kalina which is something they should do and not order any more Lada (even if it is good sub).
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    Post  Mir Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:15 pm


    It's a good ship but the class and project is a failure because of USSR destruction and the crisis in the 90s.

    It's a 30 years old project just like Yasen and Borei. Both were upgraded to a more modern standard but even the first ship got modern stuff as they were only partially started in the 90s.

    That first lada was build long time ago. Building more if it would be stupid since they can make a much better class.

    Lada isn't an interim class. Improved kilo is. Improved kilo was build so that they can have a modern sub until thry buikd a new Kalina which is something they should do and not order any more Lada (even if it is good sub).

    You may find it surprising that the Lada design is actually the "youngest" of all the classes you've just mentioned above!

    The first Yasen was laid down at the end of 1993, the first Borey in 1996 as well as the very first Improved Kilo - also in 1996.
    The first Lada was only laid down in December 1997! Smile  

    I do believe that they will not build too many Ladas before switching to the Kalina.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:21 pm

    Isos wrote:...Lada is a failed class from the 90s. They need to design a new SSK that is better suited to carry modern hardware like AIP (if they want it), UKSK (a VLS with even 4 cells would be good), underwater Paket torpedo system that is being designed for new SSN, spherical sonar...

    Lada design is already 30 years old.

    Original planned Lada and current one are not the same thing (they should have changed the name TBH)

    Prototype has been delivered, second one is undergoing trials and 4 more are in the pipeline (and that's just first batch) all for North Fleet and North Fleet only gets the top shelf stuff

    If Lada had any shortcomings it wouldn't have gotten anywhere near North Fleet and would have been dumped in the Baltic after one or two hulls

    Also AIP is a dead end, everyone is going for diesel+lithium batteries now just like Japan

    Navy went on record that Lada is orders of magnitude superior to Kilos, it's officially the next big thing



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    Post  Hole Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:47 pm

    The only thing aboard a ship/sub that can be "old" is the electronics and that stuff can be changed. The 2nd Lada has propably a computer for it´s sonar that is a magnitude faster then the one in the first sub.
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    Post  Isos Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:11 pm

    Hole wrote:The only thing aboard a ship/sub that can be "old" is the electronics and that stuff can be changed. The 2nd Lada has propably a computer for it´s sonar that is a magnitude faster then the one in the first sub.

    The overall design can be "old".

    A modern SSK can be build with uksk in mind and some new technologies that would be hard to implement in older designs.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:37 am

    Isos wrote:
    The overall design can be "old".
    The basic configuration of submarines hasn't changed in over 100 years, so any design can be considered as "old", or more accurately, of a conventional arrangement.

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