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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat May 21, 2022 11:48 pm

    hisutton.com wrote:IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps): News  - Page 2 Iran-IRGC-Shahid-Mahdavi
    The vessel is named in honor of Nader Mahdavi. He was one of 7 IRGC personnel killed in an engagement against the U.S. Navy in October 1987.

    According to defense analyst Aurora Intel, the ship is Savin (IMO 9209348). This Iranian flagged container ship was previously Dandle. She was built in 2000 and is 240.2 meters overall, and 32.2 meters across. Based on imagery analysis it appears that she had been outside the naval base at Bandar Abbas, in the civilian anchorage, since mid-2019. It had been in its final spot since March 2021. Based on analysis of satellite imagery, the ship was brought to the shipyard in late January 2022. Work likely commenced soon after.

    The refit is being done at the same yard where the regular Iranian Navy's own forward base ship, I.R.I.N.S. Makran (441), was converted. At 240 meters long the new IRGC ship appears to be similar lenght but slightly smaller overall than the Makran, which was a tanker. But it will be by far the largest ship in IRGC service.

    The IRGC already has three forward base ships. The I.R.I.S. Shahid-Roudaki is the smallest at 150m length. The other two are more covert, the Saviz and Behshad, and are used as base ships in the Red Sea. Behshad replaced Saviz there after the latter was mined in 2021.
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    This time, however, Iran should put an Aesa radar on it, TORM1 (Home Productions?) Systems and for the helicops also elevators to wait for it in the hangar. A refueling for the small destroyers as accompanying protection should also be included this time, hopefully!
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    Post  yavar Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:44 pm



    Iran IRGCN Navy Catamaran Martyr Soleimani Frigate, VLS Navy system, long range Weapon system,With Helipad,

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    Post  George1 Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:27 pm

    As far as can be judged, the missile armament of the Shahid Soleimani-class IRGC Navy catamarans consists of six cruise missiles placed in inclined launchers on the sides of the vessel, as well as vertical launch cells for short-range and medium-range anti-aircraft missiles located in the central part of the superstructure behind the wheelhouse. As the Chief of the General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces, General Bagheri, said today during the commissioning ceremony of the ship:

    As for the artillery armament, it seems to consist of an artillery mount with one 30mm cannon, as well as 4x 20mm cannons.



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    Post  Isos Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:58 pm

    It has no radar and no real AD system. It will go to the bottom as fast as Iraqi missile boats when US invaded Iraq.

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    Post  George1 Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:57 pm

    Isos wrote:It has no radar and no real AD system. It will go to the bottom as fast as Iraqi missile boats when US invaded Iraq.


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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:34 am

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    Wow whoever did this was wrong...

    On the front deck the VLS systems marked 6 midsized VLS cells... they look as big as UKSK, but yes they appear to be each a block of three tube cells, but the outer set of "cells"  if I had to guess the size and shape of them I would guess they could be land based TOR sized VLS, so old model each "lid" is four TOR missiles from the 1980s, which is 8 lids for 32 missiles, but I would think in this day and age it could be the modern TOR sized missiles with 8 missiles under each lid and therefore 64 missiles ready to fire.

    If the big tubes are UKSK sized that means the depth there is 8-10m so plenty of room for TOR sized missiles beside them that don't reach down so far freeing up internal space to move through the vessel at the lower decks.

    Here is the current TOR... look at the shape of the VLS systems for two blocks of missiles ready to fire:

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    The two big missile launchers might carry large SAMs, (three tubes each for 6 missiles), but I would also guess to say that they might be 9M96 type missile cells which means each of those three hatches might have four missiles each... so 24 medium range SAMs,  but those smaller VLS systems will be short range air defence systems like TOR or something similar... that is the sort of thing I would love to see on new Russian ships.

    (Obviously I am using 9M96 and TOR missiles as examples, they will have Iranian missiles I would expect...)

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    The ship is of course a quantum leap for Iran. Is the regular navy or paramilitar?

    It could be a TOR, which also makes sense. But I don't see any radar for it.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:20 am

    Iran Building 4th Missile Catamaran, And New Stealth Version Launched

    Flag Iran Double OSINT (open source intelligence) news on the IRGC's (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp). Analysis of satellite imagery of the Qeshm Madkandaloo Shipbuilding Cooperative Co. shipyard, on the island of Qeshm, suggests that a new Shahid Soleimani class missile corvette is under construction there. This should be the 4th hull of the class. At the same time, the first of another new class seen there appears to have been launched. This analysis is based on the relative sizes of the two types.

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    The Shahid Soleimani class will be by far the most potent and modern of the IRGC's warships. As well as a mix of short and long range anti-ship missiles, it can carry three fast boats in a hangar under the helicopter deck. These can include interceptor boats and torpedo-armed RIBs (rigid inflatable boats). It may also include crewed or uncrewed explosive boats.

    The design also has two types of VLS (vertical launch system) behind the bridge. The six larger cells likely carry medium range air defense missiles. The 4x4 smaller ones short range air-defense missiles derived from the Russian SA-15 Tor (GAUNTLET) system. Once the radar is fitted to allow these to be used, it will be the best defended warship in Iranian service, including the regular navy.
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    Post  Isos Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:30 pm

    It seems to lack radars. There can't be AD with no real AD radars...

    Pretty weak ship that will be an easy target for the US.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:09 am

    For a TOR based missile to be effective you need very good tracking radar for very high precision tracking of the target and the outgoing missile... which is essentially command guided and therefore very effective but also relatively cheap.

    A cat like that would move rather quickly through the warm waters of the Persian Gulf and one carrying a helicopter and the other carrying speed boats would be very useful for the Iranian Navy... they make a lot of sense for them, but not really something to get hugely excited about.

    A bit like saying a Russian icebreaker patrol boat is amazing and everyone should have them... well the shape needed to cut through surface ice means in open water they are not very fast and not very energy efficient either, so they belong in the far north or far south, while these cats would be best in the Persian Gulf or off the coast of Africa or in Indonesia hunting pirates.

    The vertical launch tubes appear to take up quite a bit of internal space too so those big structures are likely not too big on the inside.

    Interesting looking boats though.
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    Post  Isos Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:58 pm

    You can't move like cat with a boat. Fighter bombers are way faster. Iran doesn't have AD on its navy ships neither does it have a capable air force that can protect them. Those outdated f-14 are a joke for arab f-15, Typhoons and rafales or US f-35.

    This ships is less useful than iranian coastal missiles systems.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:18 am

    When I said cat I didn't mean 😺. I meant catamaran.

    Don't think their F14s have remained the same. Phoenix and air launched Hawk and Standard missiles would be interesting, not to mention Su35s!
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    Originally a fire control radar, the AESA architecture (⬆ MTBF) of the new radar, allows it to be also used in continuously rotating volume-search mode

    The air-defense umbrella created, with simultaneous launches, is more than many destroyers
    ➡ Just at lower quantity per ship
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    There is high confidence now, that the new radar is the naval variant of 3rd Khordad's X-band AESA

    - We can see the small LPI missile up-link antennas

    - 3rd Khordad was tested for sea condition beam stabilization (photo)

    - IRIN's S-band AESA is the larger Eagle-Eye radar

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:29 am

    It is well known that the Iran likes to use ex-tankers for his IRGC Navy somewhere near the Red Sea or currently in the Pacific. For small conflicts like Yemen, this should be more than capable. Especially when lifting charters, smaller drones, quick messenger and radar are used.

    But what the Iran now builds is two levels higher. Iran could therefore achieve skills that have very few armed forces from other countries. Especially when such a ship is protected by furrows Torm and Buk copies or their new small frigates with air defense.
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:25 pm

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    That sound better not be one of Shahed-136's bigger brothers ➡ Shahed-181
    Recently revealed to have 13 hours endurance for persistent "on station" capability @ 1150km strike radius
    Its a low-observable drone with 2-4 PGM's which could be survivable inside Ukrainian airspace
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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:15 am

    Very nice, but propeller driven... isn't this just a very slow S-70 with external weapons?

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:27 pm

    Probably due to the slowness coupled with the camouflage a very difficult target for e.g. Shorad systems. The systems will take it for birds and calculate out of it.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:43 am

    With external bombs it wont be a bird on any radar.

    For a country like Iran where most of its enemies have western based air defences then it will be fine... they will get shot down of course but equally they will also do some damage too... I would guess the key will be their accuracy of bombing and as we know from the experience of WWI and WWII most bombing has shit accuracy without assistance, so unless it is dropping rather large bombs its effectiveness will be poor... except if it uses some sort of computer assisted bombing system like the Russians fit to their upgraded and new aircraft...

    Being able to fly this at 5,000m altitude means it will be out of range of most ground fire... MANPADS wont get an IR lock on something so far away... as I mentioned the Russians would destroy it easy... OSA, TOR, SA-9, SA-13, Tunguska and Pantsir would all eat it for breakfast and would not be overly expensive for the job... even Kornet-EM in the HE model would be excellent, but for most of the rest of the world it is too high for small arms and most MANPADS require an IR lock and at 5km distance with such a small motor they are unlikely to get a lock, so this thing could fly back and forth over an area lining up targets for bombing runs as it pleases and its relatively low speed will be making it even more effective... they will hear it and see it and there will be very little they can do about it... except hide like cockroaches.

    The thing is that the Russian S-70 is the same sort of thing but much faster and can probably operate at 10-12km altitude which will be even safer at 800km/h and with a bombing accuracy and flight range and weapon capacity to make it effectively as dangerous and as powerful as an unmanned F-117... but cheaper.

    Russia does have quite a few medium sized drones that are armed and could do the sort of job this drone will be for, so I don't see them adopting it... the Geran filled a niche... they had Lancets... but they didn't really have any very long range.... 800km+ suicide drones with decent warheads (30-50kgs).

    I guess that is why they built a factory to make them and have them in licence production and use.

    The bigger drone rapidly get more expensive and so it is worth adding even more expensive stuff so they last longer and are more effective... but the reality is that there are only very specific situations where it makes sense to use a big drone and sometimes collecting information with camera and a radar and other electronics systems is more useful than carrying weapons.

    For Iran however this is a very interesting drone which would be very dangerous on any Middle East battlefield... ISIS should be afraid.
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    Post  George1 Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:26 pm

    New Iranian multi-purpose floating base


    In Iran, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Naval Forces (IRGC Navy) officially incorporated the new Shahid Mahdavi floating base, also created by rebuilding a civilian ship, in this case the former container ship Sarvin with a deadweight of over 41,000 tons. It was named after Nader Mahdavi, a soldier of the IRGC Navy, who died in one of the clashes at sea with the Americans in 1987.

    As indicated, this is a multi-purpose ship 240 meters long and 32 meters wide, which is equipped with artillery mounts and missile systems, it is capable of carrying various light boats and boats, UAVs and helicopters. Prior to this, in 2020, the Shahid Roudaki

    floating base converted from a merchant ship was accepted into the Iranian Navy., and in the Navy of the Iranian Army in 2021, the Makran floating base, created from a tanker.



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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:48 am

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    Newly released photos of a SU-22 at the IRGC-ASF aerospace exhibition
    A new air launched ballistic missile (ALBM) was seen for the first time, dubbed Arman. Looks quite similar to ground launched Ababil SRBM
    Sadid-342s were also seen as part of it's armament for the first time
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    Post  George1 Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:22 pm

    The lead missile catamaran of the Shahid Abu Mahdi Al-Muhandis type was accepted into the Iranian IRGC Navy

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    Post  George1 Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:43 pm

    The Iranian IRGC Navy includes two more Shahid Soleimani-class missile corvettes


    Today, February 19, two more Shahid Soleimani-class missile catamarans - Shahid Hassan Bagheri and Shahid Sayad Shirazi - were accepted into the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy. If the lead ship of this project has hull number FS313-01, then the new two received hull numbers FS313-02 and FS313-03, respectively.

    Missile catamarans of the Shahid Soleimani type have a length of 67 meters and a displacement of about 600 tons, and accordingly they can be classified as corvettes. For their displacement they have serious missile and artillery weapons. Missile armament includes 6 inclined launchers for various types of Iranian anti-ship cruise missiles in transport and launch containers (the range of the longest-range missiles is stated to reach 700 km ), 16 (4x4) missiles of the Nawab naval air defense system in installations vertical launch (UVP) and another 6 (3x2) missiles of some kind in much larger UVP, probably for the previously shown modification of Sayyad 3 medium-range anti-aircraft missiles with vertical launch. Artillery armament includes one 30-mm artillery mount (AU) and 6 three-barreled 20-mm remote-controlled AU. In addition, the ships have a platform for helicopters, and with the help of a crane in the stern, small boats, including unmanned ones, can be launched from them.

    The IRGC Navy corvette Shahid Sayad Shirazi received the same radar as the Army Navy light frigate Sahand.

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    Corvette of the IRGC Navy "Shahid Hassan Bagheri" (Shahid Hassan Bagheri). As you can see here, the ship has not yet installed a radar for the air defense system.

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    Three missile catamarans of the "Shahid Soleimani" type and in the background the lead small missile catamaran of the "Shahid Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis" type .

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    IRGC Navy missile boat Shahid Abu Mahdi Al-Muhandis


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    Post  nomadski Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:04 pm




    Ok , if they have to have surface ships more than submarines . Still they can improve on this model easily : ( 1 ) Make all antennae and Radar retractable inside the hull , like F35 in stealth mode , for approaching the target and escaping .  . ( 2 ) Radar absorbing  covers needed for window areas to improve low RCS , in escape mode after fire and forget discharged . Looks cool ! ( 3 ) All weapons on deck to be housed internally or be retractable inside hull or have Radar absorbing covers while in transit at least .

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