Russian special military operation in Ukraine #37

Chinese intelligence services believe that the losses of the Armed Forces of #Ukraine have not yet exceeded 200 thousand people, of which 110 thousand were killed.
The current 8th wave of mobilization in Ukraine will bring together 100-120 thousand people but won't be the last

The number of casualties reported by Zaluzhny to the #Pentagon and #NATO headquarters is 232,000 killed and 129,000 seriously wounded.
According to the private company Stratfor Forecasting, the irretrievable losses of Ukraine exceeded 410,000 people, of which 305,000 were killed.

https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1618869132619059203

NOTE: not sure of the sources but interesting numbers.

PS; noticed another article on this 200:800 trade. Apparently it is for the seriously wounded POW's on both sides.

There is something behind those numbers.
Yesterday Hungarian officials openly commented on the forceful recruitment carried out among the Hungarian-speaking minority to cover the losses.
Those people didn't run away for nothing. And don't dress the ladies' clothes for nothing. And there is a reason why they need to drag the people to the VANs directly out of the streets, like fukin kidnapers.
This whole shitty comedian show is closing to an end.

The Russian army completes the operational encirclement of Artemovsk, 01.27.2023.
Akhmat commander Alaudinov: the Russian army completes the operational encirclement of Artemovsk.

MOSCOW, January 27 - RIA Novosti. The Russian army is completing the operational encirclement of Artemovsk, Apta Alaudinov, commander of the Akhmat special forces and deputy commander of the 2nd army corps of the People's Militia of the LPR, said on Channel One.

“Almost all routes of advance for the enemy have already been blocked. There is one route left, along which they can more or less move, and even then, for the most part, it is already under our control,” the military said.

According to him, Kiev is trying to transfer additional units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Artemivsk.

“They are not very successful in doing this, because even on the approaches (to the city. — Approx. ed.) they are already beginning to suffer losses,” Alaudinov stressed.

As the acting head of the DPR Denis Pushilin noted , now the fighters of the Wagner Group are fighting in urban areas. The other day, its founder , Yevgeny Prigozhin , emphasized that the goal of liberating Artemivsk is to prevent the offensive actions of Ukrainian troops in any direction.

Today, Pushilin's adviser, Igor Kimakovsky, said that Kyiv was forced to transfer forces from Artemovsk to Vuhledar, where Russian troops had entered. According to him, the fighters entrenched themselves on the outskirts of the city.

Artyomovsk is located in the Kiev-controlled part of the DPR, north of the large city of Gorlovka . This is an important transport hub for supplying the Ukrainian group of troops in the Donbass.

Since February 24, a special military operation has been taking place in Ukraine. Vladimir Putin called its ultimate goal the liberation of Donbass and the creation of conditions that guarantee the security of Russia.

https://ria.ru/20230127/artemovsk-1847826508.html

Russians have good AP ammo but the newest models...are they wide spread? the problem when western tanks arrive old type of AP might be not good enough. Or am I wrong?
I would not also overestimate donated tanks as Russian choppers can decimate them without even using armored units.





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There is something very interesting as a backgroud for any analysis.

Here are the numbers of engines that are already ordered and set for delivery till 2030. That is only 7 year perspective, remind you :

PD-14 - 584

PD-8 - 314

TV7-117ST-01/02 - 440

VK-650V - 826

VK-1600V - 231

Count together with TV7-117V, PS-90A, VK-2500, then you get a total of 5000 aircraft engines ...

Already in 2024, it is planned to produce more than 600 aircraft engines in Russia, and from 2029 to reach 650-660 aircraft engines per year.

And this is not counting the NK-32-02 for the Tu-160M2, NK-12MVM for the Tu-95MSM, RF Product for the PAK DA, AI-222-25 for the Yak-130, VK-800SM for the LMS-901, L- 410M and UTS-800, industrial units based on aircraft engines - PS-90GP, PD-14GP-1 / GP-2, as well as tens of thousands of small turbojet engines TRDD 37-01, TRDD-50A for our "Kalibr",    X -101 etc.

The other observation : T-90Ms.
Materials showing them became notorious. Model is already wide spread among the ranks, and - what somebody already noticed today if I remember - we can hardly spot old tanks anymore.
It looks like the old models like 64s, 72Bs etc, are gradually being replaced by 72B3/B3M, including the latest mods.
Today some new materials were revealed, showing brand new modification of 72B3M called "mod. 2022".

That is a real picture of the real economy and industry.
The thing is simply devastating.
Russkie are producing new tanks at a rate higher than NATO is capable to take out of the storage old crap they have there hidden for decades.
And that applies to every single position down the list. Missiles, planes, tanks, APCs ...
Not sure if you have seen a material from BTR-82A production line ... A whole cadre was filled with new&shiny pieces, in four or five rows, dozens in each of them. Just a random photo showing ... about 100 pcs? Ready to go?

Comms how the NATO will supply 10, 20 or 30 tanks by the end of a year can be consider as a comedy show only.
Mighty Murica cant supply 30 tanks for several months?
Really?!?

Russians have good AP ammo but the newest models...are they wide spread? the problem when western tanks arrive old type of AP might be not good enough. Or am I wrong?
I would not also overestimate donated tanks as Russian choppers can decimate them without even using armored units.

Both T90A and 72B3 have new autoloaders with new high energy ammo.
You can easily spot the difference on the loader control box :

Here is it on T-72A/M (Polish made tanks has it even more primitive)


You can see the markings O - oskolichny, B - bronieboyny and K - kumulativny.
For 72B, one more position was added, that was "P" for "PTUR" - protivtankovaya upravlienna rakieta. Autoloader was changed as well, because the 9M119 missile is 695mm long. This was done by reducing the diameter of a central hub.


And here it is with 1A-40-4 FCS


Two brand new markings are there, adding two new types of ammunition : U and UN. I can only guess that "U" is for "udlinnaya", elonged in English, but zero clue for "UN". Probably some different type of longer APDS, with a different mass parameters. But that is my guess only.

Impressive. Like training practice.

The russians have had their "plans" before when it comes to production so whether or not they will reach these goals posts is another matter and the engines are just one part of the plane.

As for the tanks, I have already said this is nothing but a face saving gesture by Biden, We could very easily pack up 30 Abrams and ship em out in a day but we are in no hurry because we know its a pointless act.

Most of those beating their chests for this move have never served and simply have no real understanding of military matters, Ukies need to be trained for em. So even if we shipped them out tomorrow there would be zero point.

Because again we could give them 500 Abrams and wouldn't change a thing, the tank wasn't designed for them but us, so trying to this has a reason for "America cannot produce shit" is silly.

One has to look at the factors around a situation not just the situation to determine truth well unless you wanna be dishonest I guess

Seig, Lima Tank Plant was producing 120 m1 at its peak

Trump went there to ramp up... to 11 tanks a month...

It takes a gargantuan effort to push these initiatives across

I am unsure where you are getting this 120 from, productions rates or military gear is normally hidden, link plz?

As for Lima plant we are focusing on turning our Abrams into SEPv3's and have done over a hundred a year, Lima isn't one of the factories doing the conversion I believe or is in just small numbers

Today I learned that Russia is as much a service economy as the EU, but smaller in PPP compared to the entire EU. Also the russian manufacturing percentage of the economy is about as much as the west. China, South korea, and  Japan far outperform it in high technology manufacturing sector percentage of GDP PPP. Russia differs from the west in having a larger extraction sector. You can see this lag from china, SK, germany, france and japan with the fact that russian manufacturing barely uses industrial robots, still relying on humans for their production lines to operate machinery and fit components.

How would russia on war footing hope to compete with 0 domestic competency and proliferation in roboticized production lines for aircraft, jet engines, automobiles, etc compared to the west in war footing?

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Proove to me that lacking industrial robots is totally a nothingburger. Also currently the russian industry is doing well, despite of this. The The western heavy manufacturing industry is smaller but it has the potential to be to far larger because the combined west has far superior industrial machinery compared to russia whose industry was destroyed by capitalism. For example the irkut aviation plant uses mostly german heavy machinery.

Triumphalism is fucking retarded. But given westerners are hysterical overcredulous retards on both sides, thats expected. People who masturvate about supposed russian industrial perfection are the same types who masturbate about western tanks tirnong the tide

As a slav I respect communist chinese more since they arent bombastic, dont promote useless religious bullshit, dont brag about their beautiful empowered women, making commercials about how westerners should move in to marry them, dont do shitty PR stunts like building massive churches, dont say "net analogov v mire", dont focus monetarily on useless james bond nuclear tsunami weapons and dont focus around useless machismo in statecraft and military culture.

@Gunship Democracy: people do eat bugs a lot in traditional cuisine, for example the (in)famous silkworm pupae. It is quite delicious if you know how to make it.

Crickets are also speciality rural foods in certain countries. I tried it once, the meat tastes similar to shrimp.

@limb
Are you on drugs? If you want to post your random thoughts, write a blog.

The heights are under russian control

Today I learned that Russia is as much a service economy as the EU, but smaller in PPP compared to the entire EU. Also the russian manufacturing percentage of the economy is about as much as the west. China, South korea, and  Japan far outperform it in high technology manufacturing sector percentage of GDP PPP. Russia differs from the west in having a larger extraction sector. You can see this lag from china, SK, germany, france and japan with the fact that russian manufacturing barely uses industrial robots, still relying on humans for their production lines to operate machinery and fit components.

How would russia on war footing hope to compete with 0 domestic competency and proliferation in roboticized production lines for aircraft, jet engines, automobiles, etc compared to the west in war footing?

Well right now Russia is outproducing the West just fine. The only place in NATO Europe which is producing new tanks at the moment is the METKA plant in Greece.
All your automated production lines and high technology manufacturing for defense needs you can find there.. the one and only  

Possibly Poland might have an active production line for South Korea-designed K1 tanks soon too.

While across the pond, I'm not sure if the US is even manufacturing new M1 Abrams anymore, or is just modernizing older ones

If NATO actually manages to move over to war economy mode and puts a lid on their societies while doing so, then Russia can always order whatever is needed from China - whether machinery, or engines, or weapon systems directly. Iran, North Korea, Belarus will also help out at a minimum. All of those bar Belarus have their own MBT manufacturing lines BTW.
Russia has the Uralvagonzavod plant for tanks, which is huge, and also Omsktransmash; which since the fall of the USSR hasn't produced new tanks but focused on modernizing old ones, while newly manufacturing only civilian equipment such as tractors. But it'll be quite doable to tool it again to MBT-production; there just wasn't any neccessity for a 2nd tank plant in post-Soviet Russia previously.

As a slav I respect communist chinese more since they arent bombastic, dont promote useless religious bullshit, dont brag about their beautiful empowered women, making commercials about how westerners should move in to marry them, dont do shitty PR stunts like building massive churches, dont say "net analogov v mire", dont focus monetarily on useless james bond nuclear tsunami weapons and dont focus around useless machismo in statecraft and military culture.

How do you know?
Do you live in China, follow Chinese news media, and know how to read Chinese?

Where is Russia on this chart then, big brain?

Lot of robotics and they give dumb diplomas to the people to make them feel useful because the only jobs they could have had are now taken by robots.

Then they create those dumb consulting firms which charge millions for powerpoints and dumb work.

This way they destroy the few remaining useful companies.

We have this going on in France. Thousands of people with masters in communications, psy and what not without a job. The ones lucky enough to get a job are hapiness managers, not even kidding, that sort of job exists.

And yet the Russians are drowning NATO in war material with an economy that is barely mobilized.

Apparently some drunk vatnik from Nizhny Tagil is more productive than the most sophisticated robotic complexes German engineering can devise - who knew?

Isos wrote " Impressive. Like training practice. " Did the Tank columns meet accidentally ? Someone wrote on T90 topic that there are so many different rounds for this Tank . Some for use against buildings etc , tube-launched missiles . If a Tanks drives through the countryside , and meets up with a Tree or Hedge , and is stopped by it , then should we manufacture Trees or Hedges  as anti-Tank devices ? No , I hear you say ! Yet the Germans during ww2 , used exactly this tactic in France , to slow down or stop the allied advance . They may have even allowed the Hedges to grow taller .

The is no question that a Tree or Hedge or a Tank , can slow down or stop another Tank . But is this the most efficient method ? We live now in the age of missiles and satellites . A Tank or other vehicle can be destroyed far easier by new methods . How much does Chrysanthemum cost , compared to MBT ? Therefore with all respect to all Tankers , their time is passing . The NATO package , should be taken care , by modern method .

Alright I am curious, what air defenses is Russia using in this operation, obviously MANPADS is one of them when they were used to shoot down a su-24 8kms away.

https://m.vk.com/video-206639135_456264588