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    Russian territories.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:55 pm

    For the discussion of Russian territories, former, current and future.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:57 pm

    What is there to discuss, precisely?

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:01 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:What is there to discuss, precisely?

    Well primarily the schedule for the reclamation of lost territories such as Finland and Alaska aswell as the CIS nations.
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    Post  caveat emptor Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:38 pm

    I don't think anyone at Kremlin even considers reclaiming Alaska or Finland. Northern Kazakhstan, on the other hand is a different story. If there's a plan for it, it should only consider territories with Russian population which would be easy to incorporate and control. Basically, consolidate nation state after demise of Soviet Union.
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    Post  limb Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:39 pm

    Malorossiya is just as much Russia as malopolska is polska.
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:06 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:I don't think anyone at Kremlin even considers reclaiming Alaska or Finland. Northern Kazakhstan, on the other hand is a different story. If there's a plan for it, it should only consider territories with Russian population which would be easy to incorporate and control. Basically, consolidate nation state after demise of Soviet Union.
    Maybe then Narva, even if it is just a city.

    As far as Alaska, it would be possible only after a collapse of USA in style of Soviet Union, with dissolution in several countries

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:49 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:I don't think anyone at Kremlin even considers reclaiming Alaska or Finland. Northern Kazakhstan, on the other hand is a different story. If there's a plan for it, it should only consider territories with Russian population which would be easy to incorporate and control. Basically, consolidate nation state after demise of Soviet Union.

    Northern Kazakhstan is barely of any strategic value - it's worthless to take it if doing so means a complete alienation of the rest of Kazakhstan. In addition the Russian population there is slowly decreasing regardless.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:14 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    As far as Alaska, it would be possible only after a collapse of USA in style of Soviet Union, with dissolution in several countries

    Somehow I do not see pindostan coming to a sticky end as unlikely.
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    Post  PhSt Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:16 am

    caveat emptor wrote:I don't think anyone at Kremlin even considers reclaiming Alaska or Finland. Northern Kazakhstan, on the other hand is a different story. If there's a plan for it, it should only consider territories with Russian population which would be easy to incorporate and control. Basically, consolidate nation state after demise of Soviet Union.


    I think reclaiming all of Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan would ensure Russia's status as a superpower, these territories form a substantial part of the former Russian Empire and the Soviet Union

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:47 am

    Can Russia annex Belarus?
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:18 am

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    As far as Alaska, it would be possible only after a collapse of USA in style of Soviet Union, with dissolution in several countries

    Somehow I do not see pindostan coming to a sticky end as unlikely.
    It depends also on what kind of leadership Russia will have at that time. As an example, after the fall of Jugoslavia, Italy should have claimed back Istria and maybe part of Dalmatia, instead of letting it go to Croatia (and partly to Slovenia). When a country or a federation dissolves, such changes are still feasible with much less problems.
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    Post  Werewolf Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:40 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Can Russia annex Belarus?

    Is this a serious question?

    Military related "annex" by force or future predicament of events like a succession?

    Once Russia has got all the regions on 404 it needs to secure itself from NATO there will be a referendum in Belarus to join the Russian Federation.
    Currently, there are to many uncertain aspects in peoples heads. To much foreign involvement of steering up youth against Lukashenko.
    Right now we see a very soft phase of informational warfare from the Russian side to change some minds in favor for Russia. It is slow and some blow backs due to goals and trade-in of territory for our boys lifes.

    Once it is secured it's goals I think by 2030-2035 we will see th eastern borders little bit closer to what they were before 1991.

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