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    Post  sepheronx Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:40 pm

    I'm gonna say this

    If Ukraine is preparing a dirty bomb to use it, and Russia has proof of it as they are getting worked up about, thry need to show it. And as well, strike very hard with Khinzals in all the areas where they speculate or know where the bomb is being made.

    And state "we did it to prevent a major disaster".

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    Post  zepia Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:05 pm

    More calls

    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/4692

    MoD Russia, [24-Oct-22 21:28]

    On 24 October 2022, the Chief of General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces – First Deputy Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation
    General of the Army Valery Gerasimov has held telephone talks with Chief of the UK Defence Staff Admiral Antony Radakin.

    ◽ The parties carried on discussing the situation concerning Ukraine's possible use of a 'dirty bomb'.


    MoD Russia, [24-Oct-22 22:24]

    On 24 October 2022, the Chief of General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces – First Deputy Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation
    General of the Army Valery Gerasimov has held telephone talks with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the U.S. Armed Forces General Mark Milley.

    ◽ The parties carried on discussing the situation concerning Ukraine's possible use of a 'dirty bomb'.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:18 pm

    Would be nice to get a sample of the intel I suppose they have. They're being very, very adamant about this.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:25 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Would be nice to get a sample of the intel I suppose they have. They're being very, very adamant about this.

    They know full well too that the west wants it so they will deny vehemently. In that regard, Russia needs to bypass the "west" and look at showing the evidence at both the UN and to the defense ministries of plenty other countries.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:30 pm

    On the other hand, blaming the opponent for using any kind of forbidden weapon is just one of the points of war propaganda classics, so we can't exclude the possibility that it is what it is.
    Maybe they don't have any proof, but still blaming Ukrs of these ideas might force them to cease those, if they really had.
    This kind of information strategy was widely used for the whole Syrian conflict, so is well mastered by the Russkie propaganda machine.

    Edit :

    Another day in a row, Russian Internet is flooded with pics like this :

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 - Page 15 Photo_63


    Oh yeah, the mighty Cherson offensive is running perfectly well.
    This time it was not a police units outnumbered 30:1 to hold them ...

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:03 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Would be nice to get a sample of the intel I suppose they have. They're being very, very adamant about this.

    They know full well too that the west wants it so they will deny vehemently. In that regard, Russia needs to bypass the "west" and look at showing the evidence at both the UN and to the defense ministries of plenty other countries.

    Oh, f*ck the UN

    Tell everyone both diplomatically and in media what's happening and that if ukrops do detonate dirty bomb Lvov will get nuked with standard 2MT warhead

    And then when ukrops do detonate dirty bomb they should just nuke Lvov with 2MT warhead as promised

    If anyone downwind has issues after that they can take it up with Kiev, it's none of Russia's business





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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:09 pm

    ALAMO wrote:...Another day in a row, Russian Internet is flooded with pics like this :

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30 - Page 15 Photo_63

    Fvck me, this place is flatter than a hockey rink

    One of first things lieutenant told us in boot camp was that these kinds of places are to be avoided at all times, no exceptions

    Serbs don't fight wars in the prairies but I guess different cultures have different customs








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    Post  LMFS Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:10 pm

    Russia is making all the rats fully aware that they cannot get away with a nuclear war by proxy. They will be roasted in their holes in Washington, London and Brussels. The only issue is that the West is too rabidly stupid to understand that. So, we will see.

    Comments like the one below are sadly consistent with the situation in the West and therefore I see no reason for dismissing the impending risk:

    Pepe Escobar
    MORE WAR

    From one of my Beltway sources:

    "The desperation of the neo-liberals, who are going to lose the elections in November: they are escalating and doubling down in their quest for MORE war so as to hide their Covid crimes and the failure of their sodomite LGBTQ policies meant to destroy society. Ukraine is the only card they still have in their hand."

    On the EU:

    "The EU governments fear that they will be overthrown unless there is a distraction. I do not see that there will be any compromise [on war] by the Straussians, who are enjoying this."

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    Post  VARGR198 Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:58 pm

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    Post  thegopnik Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:34 pm

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    Post  nomadski Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:38 pm

    Ukraine ( NATO ) use dirty bomb ? Well Russia use very very dirty filthy bomb ! Just make sure all troops and Horses and swordsman have NBC gear , when they advance into the Hell itself . The Chinese know how ! Forget khinzal , say hello to Mr . Kiloton .


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8y0fD-wMNUw

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    Post  limb Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:39 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:

    DPR repels Ukrainian attack


    I believe one the destroyed BMPs is a captured BMP-3.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:19 pm

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    🚨🚨🚨Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian said that his country is ready to send a group of military experts to study the situation with Ukrainian colleagues regarding the allegations of the use of Iranian drones in Ukraine....troll⚡⚡⚡


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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:35 pm

    ALAMO wrote:

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    Dude, do not stop there! Smile
    I tracked the artists work back to his telegram channel: https://t.me/crimeasees

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    Post  ludovicense Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:37 pm

    LMFS wrote:Russia is making all the rats fully aware that they cannot get away with a nuclear war by proxy. They will be roasted in their holes in Washington, London and Brussels. The only issue is that the West is too rabidly stupid to understand that. So, we will see.

    Comments like the one below are sadly consistent with the situation in the West and therefore I see no reason for dismissing the impending risk:

    Pepe Escobar
    MORE WAR

    From one of my Beltway sources:

    "The desperation of the neo-liberals, who are going to lose the elections in November: they are escalating and doubling down in their quest for MORE war so as to hide their Covid crimes and the failure of their sodomite LGBTQ policies meant to destroy society. Ukraine is the only card they still have in their hand."

    On the EU:

    "The EU governments fear that they will be overthrown unless there is a distraction. I do not see that there will be any compromise [on war] by the Straussians, who are enjoying this."

    I don't know if foolishness goes that far. The movement of conversations now between Russian commanders and the main NATO countries shows, at least apparently, that they seek to avoid the spread of the conflict. Today 30 members of the American Congress sought, suggested that Bidin open a channel of direct negotiation with Putin. A few days ago, Obama asked Biden to limit the conflict so that it does not spread. Not everyone is foolish.
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    Post  ludovicense Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:53 pm


    1plus1equals3
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    143h/
    -Kherson Masacre- Sukhanove part 8 (October 19)

    2x T-64BV of 🇺🇦, abandoned and capcured
    MT-LB-S APC🇺🇦☠
    BRDM-2 IMV 🇺🇦☠
    ------
    77 tanks, 102 IFVs, 46 IMVs, 56 APCs, 33 vehic.,
    39 unknown, TB-2, 2 jet, 1 heli, 3 art , 4 AA

    https://twitter.com/1_plus_1equals3

    ..................................

    This military expert, at least he says, is recording on his Twitter account Ukraine's losses on the Kherson front. The work is well done because it is recorded with photo and videos.
    Looking at this, it amazes me what kind of General commands these offensives across Ukraine, because judging by the images, the tactics and formations look more like a suicide squad than a regular trained army.

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    Post  thegopnik Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:19 pm

    wonder if the ukraine war will look as comfy as the soviet afghanistan war
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:37 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Thanks FP, been with him for years, Spinter keeps getting deleted, was waiting for him to reappear.

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    Credit belongs to AMCXXL for posting his tweets here first

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    1plus1equals3
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    143h/
    -Kherson Masacre-  Sukhanove part 8 (October 19)

    2x T-64BV of 🇺🇦, abandoned and capcured
    MT-LB-S APC🇺🇦☠
    BRDM-2 IMV 🇺🇦☠
    ------
    77 tanks, 102 IFVs, 46 IMVs, 56 APCs, 33 vehic.,
    39 unknown, TB-2, 2 jet, 1 heli, 3 art , 4 AA

    https://twitter.com/1_plus_1equals3

    ..................................

    This military expert, at least he says, is recording on his Twitter account Ukraine's losses on the Kherson front. The work is well done because it is recorded with photo and videos.
    Looking at this, it amazes me what kind of General commands these offensives across Ukraine, because judging by the images, the tactics and formations look more like a suicide squad than a regular trained army.


    And this is also an informative Twitter account

    Looks like some pro-Russian or even just neutral sources are quietly creeping back on to twitter. Perhaps in preparation for a Musk takeover? Wink

    As much as I appreciate Telegram - it's simply cumbersome and heavyweight. Having to load a whole app essentially in your browser every time you want to check it. It's full of stupid idiosyncrasies too such as not being able to play some videos because they're too big, random unresponsiveness sometimes and so on.
    And as far as I know there's not way to embed posts from it here on the forum.

    Anyway, wasn't someone here earlier complaining about the Russians not using ATGMs?



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    Post  Hole Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:47 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:I'm pretty sure Shoigu's numbers were reasonably accurate, so given subsequent developments it should be in the vicinity of 70k now. Roughly 30k can be independently corroborated to some extent.
    The 61.000 confirmed KIA UkroNazis Shoigu talked about are clearly identified dead = the russian MoD knows their names and confirmed the data with Ukro sources. That doesn´t mean that there are another 50.000 or 100.000 dead bodies/body parts littering the landcape or brought away by the Ukro regime before they were identified by the russian side.

    2,5 months ago we had the leak by some Ukro MoD officer which stated the number of roughly 200.000 KIA´s. This was before the "well planned and executed offensives". The Ukros lost between 20.000 and 30.000 in the Kharkov and Nikolaev/Kherson areas. Plus more dead at the usual locations (DPR) and all around 404.

    There were demonstrations in the western parts of 404, even in Lviv, where relatives demanded answers from the authorities. According to the comitee of soldiers mothers (or so, a organisation paid by the west, not Russia) there are currently 320.000 missing!

    The regime claimed not long ago that they got a "700.000 men army". They also claim to have 60.000 fighters in the Kherson area, 40 - 50.000 in Donbass, some 20 - 30.000 in the Kharkow area and 30.000 close to the border with Belarus. Maybe 20.000 fighters around Kiev plus a few thousand in Odessa (a lot were sent to the hugely sucessful Kherson offensive tongue ). Maybe there are another 50.000 in the western parts of 404 + a few thousand in NATO states but this gives us roughly half the claimed number of 700.000 fighters.

    Taking all this into account 300.000 KIA could be likely.


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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:05 pm

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    Post  Hole Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:18 pm

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    Pioneering? Successful? Propaganda at its best (worst?)
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    Reality
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    Even he has to laugh about the article

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    Post  Erk Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:24 am

    sepheronx wrote:I'm gonna say this

    If Ukraine is preparing a dirty bomb to use it, and Russia has proof of it as they are getting worked up about, thry need to show it. And as well, strike very hard with Khinzals in all the areas where they speculate or know where the bomb is being made.

    And state "we did it to prevent a major disaster".
    What if the info is a spy they have planted somewhere in the Kiev government or Ukrainian military?

    Do you think they should show the world that source, which would be sure to be killed thus cease to be useful?

    Apparently Britain is involved on the issue of Ukraine obtaining technology to create nuclear weapons.

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    Post  mnztr Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:20 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Would be nice to get a sample of the intel I suppose they have. They're being very, very adamant about this.

    You expect them to out their spies so the SBU can kill them?

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    Post  mnztr Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:25 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Thanks FP, been with him for years, Spinter keeps getting deleted, was waiting for him to reappear.

    Sprinter Monitor
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    Credit belongs to AMCXXL for posting his tweets here first

    ludovicense wrote:
    1plus1equals3
    @1_plus_1equals3
    143h/
    -Kherson Masacre-  Sukhanove part 8 (October 19)

    2x T-64BV of 🇺🇦, abandoned and capcured
    MT-LB-S APC🇺🇦☠
    BRDM-2 IMV 🇺🇦☠
    ------
    77 tanks, 102 IFVs, 46 IMVs, 56 APCs, 33 vehic.,
    39 unknown, TB-2, 2 jet, 1 heli, 3 art , 4 AA

    https://twitter.com/1_plus_1equals3

    ..................................

    This military expert, at least he says, is recording on his Twitter account Ukraine's losses on the Kherson front. The work is well done because it is recorded with photo and videos.
    Looking at this, it amazes me what kind of General commands these offensives across Ukraine, because judging by the images, the tactics and formations look more like a suicide squad than a regular trained army.


    And I do say this is also a very informative Twitter account

    Looks like some pro-Russian or even just neutral sources are quietly creeping back on to twitter. Perhaps in preparation for a Musk takeover? Wink

    As much as I appreciate Telegram - it's simply cumbersome and heavyweight. Having to load a whole app essentially in your browser every time you want to check it. It's full of stupid idiosyncrasies too such as not being able to play some videos because they're too big, random unresponsiveness sometimes and so on.
    And as far as I know there's not way to embed posts from it here on the forum.

    Anyway, wasn't someone here earlier complaining about the Russians not using ATGMs?



    Bit of a waste to use an ATGM on that POS, a 12.7mm blast would have sliced right through it. If not RPG DEFINITELY would do the job. From the factory they only had protection from 7.62

    Was repeating all of that really necessary just to make that comment?
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    Post  limb Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:36 am

    A russian S-300 or S-400 launcher was destroyed.

    https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1583929636500537345

    How the **** do ukrainians locate them and manage to film them with shitty drones? Why cant russians make lots of wooden decoys liken the ukrainians?

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