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    Former Japanese PM Abe Assassinated

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    Post  Backman Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:21 pm

    Abe had good relations with Putin. They both respected each other and both wanted to end the islands dispute

    This is strange.

    My default position on all of these things is that it was the Anglo empire. Until proven otherwise. But that's just me.

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    Post  Backman Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:00 am

    Footage of the shooting in Telegram link. https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13831

    The shooter misses the first shot. But Abe and his bodyguards just stand there for precious seconds until the second shot comes. The body guards should have ran towards him after the second shot. But they just stand there

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    Post  Isos Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:03 am

    I saw somewhere only one people died from shooting in 2019 and 4 in 2020 or something like that.

    It's not something they expected. Japabese are very well educated and repsectful.

    I think this guy was either druged or under hypnose. KGB and CIA had such progtams to control people and use them this way.

    The shooter said he killed him because he didn't like his polotics but Abe was not at power anymore. That seems like a quickly made up claim.

    The corruption is also very well present in Japan. Could have been some mafia guy who order to kill him.

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    Post  Sujoy Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:58 am

    Assasinated either by USA or China. In all likelihood the former.
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    Post  Backman Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:03 am

    Sujoy wrote:Assasinated either by USA or China. In all likelihood the former.

    China would not do risky shit like that. China is hardly decisive enough to counter sanction when someone sanctions them. They wouldn't be knocking off Japanese PM's

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    Post  Backman Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:03 am

    Harsh but interesting take from China on this

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:47 pm


    Abe was the first Japanese prime minister to visit Serbia in nearly half a century, got a medal and all

    This is lame...

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    Post  Backman Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:33 pm

    Comment from blog

    Mister Abe did speak out against Zelenskyy and UKR - blaming UKR for provoking the War.

    It's unfortunate to see Mister Abe Die from the Assassination (MD PressConf - Heart Heavily Damaged from Gunshots); but I'm concerned as to the Shooter's Motives and Associates. He's a JMSDF Veteran who served out his Term 20 years ago. There is a need to see if there were Enablers.

    Why? I wouldn't put it past Kolomoiskyy and Zelenskyy to Pull this Off. In Part to Abe and Other "Neutral/Non-Supportive" Politicians and Business Leaders - Zelenskyy + UKR Refugees rcvd a Lukewarm Reception in spite of the Media Propaganda. The Talking Heads in JPN are starting to claim "Ukraine/Zelenskyy Fatigue", losing enthusiasm on "Refugees" who should be sent back, and are expected to start getting off the Fan Club Bandwagon and admitting that the RUS+Secessionist Forces - have been and still are - overcoming UKRainian Forces and Foreign Mercs+Weapons.

    Biden/Blinken/Nudelman-Khagan/Soros-Schwartz/Kolomoiskyy-Zelenskyy. These have the Motives.

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    Post  Backman Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:50 pm

    Abe tried to maintain the cordial relationship with Russia.
    Although Abe was anti China, he had had no intention of making Japan cannon fodder ala Ukraine in the US war against China.

    Abe was critical of the new regime that it reversed all his work with Russia.

    But is this grounds for assassination ? He wasn't even in power. Maybe they had data that showed he was going to win another term. Who knows. We will never know.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:05 am

    I liked Abe as well

    This is weird. Who the hell had reason to kill him?
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:38 am

    The only reason to kill him politically is to prevent him being an influencer in favour of better ties with Russia and not really caring too much about the Ukraine.

    As a politician his actual power was gone with him being out of office, but just as Kissenger is still talking and upsetting some people Abe was probably pissing off a few powerful people too...

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    Post  Backman Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:38 am

    It is clear that Abe didn't have total buy-in on Russia in the same way that an Olaf Scholz does. But it could be argued that Merkel or Macron even, don't have total buy-in either. Then there's a guy like Erdogan. If assassination was the price of non conformity then why hasn't Erdogan been snuffed out yet?

    Maybe Abe was an easy mark. They did it because they could. Abe's bodyguards were atrocious. They didn't even look like trained bodyguards.

    Abe could have survived this if he had Nicholas Maduros bodyguards.

    In basically 2 seconds, Maduros guards had 3 shields in front of him. In the footage of Abe, the first shot goes off and everyone just freezes till the second shot comes. A guard should have tackled him asap.







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    Post  LMFS Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:54 am

    Backman wrote:My default position on all of these things is that it was the Anglo empire. Until proven otherwise. But that's just me.

    That is more likely to be right than not, even without going deep into the topic...

    In basically 2 seconds, Maduros guards had 3 shields in front of him. In the footage of Abe, the first shot goes off and everyone just freezes till the second shot comes. A guard should have tackled him asap.

    If you are a bodyguard, then you are there exactly for such kind of event. Even if in Japan they are rare, don't they know what a firearm is? It is just absurd how the guys don't even move after the first shot, so the involvement of the safety team should be definitely something to look at.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:44 pm

    If assassination was the price of non conformity then why hasn't Erdogan been snuffed out yet?

    Did you miss the US supported coup attempt against him?

    My default position on all of these things is that it was the Anglo empire. Until proven otherwise. But that's just me.

    They have form for doing such things...

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    Post  kvs Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:25 pm

    That Japan is supposedly a nice place is not an excuse for "surprise" on the part of bodyguards. They are not some chums at a pub
    it is their freaking job to notice potential assailants and also to be proactive in any response. Hanging there waiting for the shooter
    to take a second shot is gross incompetence if not treachery. So this may be be an actual CIA operation where not only the shooter
    is activated but the bodyguards as well.

    I think only the US would be involved. No way China would be as it has no actual motive. Motive is something that is always forgotten
    and you can see this in all the propaganda attacks on Putin since 1999. The US is worried about its Japanese colonial plantation escaping
    but China cannot be triggered by anti-Chinese rhetoric since everybody and his dog engages in it in Japan. China has nothing to gain from
    assassinating Abe whatsoever. In fact, it would have something to lose since Abe was at least not frothing at the mouth against Russia.

    BTW, I find the anti-Chinese sentiment in Japan to be grotesque. WTF has China done to the Japs in the last 1000 years? Absolutely
    nothing. The Japs have a Poland style inferiority complex vis a vis China. It is the Japs that have done much wrong against China in
    recent history. The Chinese view that the Japs are crazy is correct.


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:59 pm

    Backman wrote: It is clear that Abe didn't have total buy-in on Russia in the same way that an Olaf Scholz does. But it could be argued that Merkel or Macron even, don't have total buy-in either. Then there's a guy like Erdogan. If assassination was the price of non conformity then why hasn't Erdogan been snuffed out yet?




    Actually there was

    F16s went to bomb him, and tried to get him before he got in the air

    But Russia stopped the assassination during the coup by giving him information on what was taking place

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