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    Post  Scorpius Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:52 am

    Kiko wrote:
    In Russia the Coca-Cola company held a presentation of the new soda.

    It is noted that the taste will be identical to the classic Coca-Cola and Fanta, but lemonade will be poured into packaging with a new design.

    Coca-Cola in Russia, announced on June 16 that it would no longer produce and sell Coca-Cola and other brand drinks in Russia.

    The clearest example of Western hypocrisy. Coca Cola announced its departure without going anywhere. Changing the packaging design does not make Cola and Fanta other drinks. Sounds like an old pig with a new lipstick.
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    Post  lancelot Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:34 am

    Knowing Coca Cola these drinks won't use the same recipe. The question is will they be good enough to compete against the possibly dozens of white brand colas in the Russian market. In Nazi Germany, because the Germans had good chemists, they came up with Fanta and bottled it up at the same plants. Then after the war ended Coca Cola ended buying back the business and got the Fanta recipe.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:37 am

    lancelot wrote:Knowing Coca Cola these drinks won't use the same recipe. The question is will they be good enough to compete against the possibly dozens of white brand colas in the Russian market. In Nazi Germany, because the Germans had good chemists, they came up with Fanta and bottled it up at the same plants. Then after the war ended Coca Cola ended buying back the business and got the Fanta recipe.

    I have had offbrand cola's from other countries. Like in India, I know it was a brand prior but got bought out - Thumbs Up (owned by Pepsi Co now), is absolutely fantastic. Actually, I prefer it way above that of Pepsi or Coca Cola itself.

    We are assuming its of course owned by Coca Cola still (the off brand Russian one). But I wouldn't be surprised, I mean, they bypassed the sanctions on Nazi Germany during WWII as well.

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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:15 pm

    Soft drinks are metabolic disease products. Nothing but sugar water with some extra crap of no nutritional benefit thrown in.
    Drink some carbonated mineral water if you need a fizzy drink. At least you get minerals from it.

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    Post  franco Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:45 pm

    Lithuania has begun to gradually stifle rail transit to the Kaliningrad region. Lithuanian Railways has notified Kaliningrad Railway of the termination of the transit of a number of goods subject to EU sanctions from Saturday.
    Up to 50% of the range of goods, including building materials and metals, will fall under the transit ban.

    This is not yet a full-fledged blockade of the region, but it is already close to it.


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    Post  lancelot Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:45 am

    kvs wrote:Soft drinks are metabolic disease products.   Nothing but sugar water with some extra crap of no nutritional benefit thrown in.  
    Drink some carbonated mineral water if you need a fizzy drink.   At least you get minerals from it.
    A lot of people who buy Coke get it for the cheap and easy to consume caffeine.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:53 am

    Coke isn't in the Russian market to help Russia... they make good money there... of course they wont want to leave.

    There is nothing special about Cokes receipe... there are plenty of other types of cola with interesting flavours that could sell just as well or even better.

    This is not yet a full-fledged blockade of the region, but it is already close to it.

    The sea based resources Russia needs to supply and support Kaliningrad will be useful for supplying and supporting other regions by sea too....

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    Post  LMFS Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:47 am

    franco wrote:Lithuania has begun to gradually stifle rail transit to the Kaliningrad region. Lithuanian Railways has notified Kaliningrad Railway of the termination of the transit of a number of goods subject to EU sanctions from Saturday.
    Up to 50% of the range of goods, including building materials and metals, will fall under the transit ban.

    This is not yet a full-fledged blockade of the region, but it is already close to it.

    Siege is warfare, just saying...

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    Statement fomr the Governor of the Kaliningrad region Alikhanov:

    "The Lithuanian Railways have notified the Kaliningrad Railway that from zero o'clock they stop passing transit from Kaliningrad and to the Kaliningrad region... We believe that this is a gross violation of the protocols on the accession of the Baltic states to the EU, a violation of the rules of free transit. This was an obligation of the EU and the Baltic States. This is an attempt to strangle our region economically."

    I would like to remind you that an integral part of the package of joint EU-Russia-Lithuania decisions of 2002-2003 to guarantee the transit of Russian goods and, of course, citizens of the Russian Federation to/from the Kaliningrad Region was the counter commitment of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation to ratify the Agreement on the State Border with the Republic of Lithuania. I remember this very well, because at that time I headed the State Duma Committee on International Affairs and was the special representative of the President of Russia at these negotiations.
    If Brussels and Vilnius are proactively and treacherously destroying the package of agreements on Kaliningrad transit signed by them, which entered into force on July 1, 2003, then the European Union should understand the consequences of its suicidal decision for the legitimacy of its own eastern border.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:34 pm

    Picked up on an interesting comment by Miller of Gazprom at St Petersburg. He was commenting on the problems with the Siemens turbine embargoed in Canada thus NS-1 having to reduce its capacity and he mentioned that NS-2 was ready for immediate use.

    Perhaps we should be looking out for further reductions in NS-1 capacity as other turbines are powered down due to 'maintenance' shutdowns as an 'encouragement' to Germany to activate NS-2 with its brand new, well within any maintenance, turbines.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:43 pm

    franco wrote:Lithuania has begun to gradually stifle rail transit to the Kaliningrad region. Lithuanian Railways has notified Kaliningrad Railway of the termination of the transit of a number of goods subject to EU sanctions from Saturday.
    Up to 50% of the range of goods, including building materials and metals, will fall under the transit ban.

    This is not yet a full-fledged blockade of the region, but it is already close to it.


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    If suddenly, someday, residents of Lithuania, for example, say, "what is happenning," remember this day.

    The day when Lithuania, in fact, violates to some extent Russian sovereignty over the Kaliningrad region

    It is obvious that in the near future Russia will have to solve the issue of deblocking the Kaliningrad region. In this case, the hypothetical Suwalki corridor may well become a reality.
    🇱🇹 May be denazified when the times comes it means that...

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    Post  Hole Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:48 pm

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/the-st-petersburg-forum-speech-the-west-didnt-expect/

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/oh-youve-run-out-of-gas-putin-has-started-a-session-of-punitive-psychiatry/

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    Post  Broski Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:01 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    franco wrote:Lithuania has begun to gradually stifle rail transit to the Kaliningrad region. 
    If Brussels and Vilnius are proactively and treacherously destroying the package of agreements on Kaliningrad transit signed by them, which entered into force on July 1, 2003, then the European Union should understand the consequences of its suicidal decision for the legitimacy of its own eastern border.
    Land bridge to Kaliningrad in 5, 4, 3, 2....
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    Post  Hole Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:11 pm

    https://thesaker.is/world-war-3-for-dummies/

    https://southfront.org/meet-the-new-boss-putin-reroutes-critical-hydrocarbons-eastward-leaving-europe-high-and-dry/

    Great articles, mostly about the economical and financial situation.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:30 am

    A clear idea of how the impending financial crash, covid and the rest of the dystopian events in which we increasingly find ourselves are linked together is being formed and I don't find it reasonable to simply dismiss these explanations anymore. Take care all of you and try to protect yourselves and your beloved ones to the best of your ability.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:59 am

    Broski wrote:
    LMFS wrote:
    franco wrote:Lithuania has begun to gradually stifle rail transit to the Kaliningrad region. 
    If Brussels and Vilnius are proactively and treacherously destroying the package of agreements on Kaliningrad transit signed by them, which entered into force on July 1, 2003, then the European Union should understand the consequences of its suicidal decision for the legitimacy of its own eastern border.
    Land bridge to Kaliningrad in 5, 4, 3, 2....

    This is from the LMFS post above. For clarity and to emphasize its importance, it was spoken by Dmitry Rogozin, the chairman of the Russian State Duma's Foreign Affairs Committee,

    "I would like to remind you that an integral part of the package of joint EU-Russia-Lithuania decisions of 2002-2003 to guarantee the transit of Russian goods and, of course, citizens of the Russian Federation to/from the Kaliningrad Region was the counter commitment of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation to ratify the Agreement on the State Border with the Republic of Lithuania. I remember this very well, because at that time I headed the State Duma Committee on International Affairs and was the special representative of the President of Russia at these negotiations.

    If Brussels and Vilnius are proactively and treacherously destroying the package of agreements on Kaliningrad transit signed by them, which entered into force on July 1, 2003, then the European Union should understand the consequences of its suicidal decision for the legitimacy of its own eastern border."


    In effect Russia is saying to the US and the EU that the location of the western border of Lithuania is at risk if the Agreement is broken and Russia needs an ability to access Kaliningrad as a replacement for that in the Agreement.

    Looks like the US stirring it again to drive another wedge between Russia and the EU.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:26 pm

    WW3 didn't start because of the blockade of West Berlin by the Soviet authorities. Neither will it start from Lithuania cutting railroad access to Kaliningrad

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    Post  LMFS Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:38 pm

    JohninMK wrote:In effect Russia is saying to the US and the EU that the location of the western border of Lithuania is at risk if the Agreement is broken and Russia needs an ability to access Kaliningrad as a replacement for that in the Agreement.

    Looks like the US stirring it again to drive another wedge between Russia and the EU.

    The elites' best option is increasingly world war, Russia must resist those attempts by all means and if necessary ship the supplies to Kaliningrad. The West will collapse under its own weight soon if they are not allowed to find a way out by means of a war.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:27 pm

    The west is a train wreck and is already on fire... Putin doesn't need to stack dynamite into the front few carriages, the west has already done that for themselves... Putin just needs to make sure they don't get in the way of the west as it breaks up and burns...

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    Post  Gazputin Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:14 pm

    the whole point of the Ukraine is there is/was a hostage population of Rus speaking people
    Putin is removing that

    now the braindead EU thinks they can find another enclave to victimise

    with the ....
    tah-dah-dah-dah ! glorious ..... but irrelevant Has-Been Kingdom ! Leading the way !!!!!!
    halle-fuckin-luyah!"

    "The new head of the British army, Patrick Sanders, announced the need to create an army capable of "defeating Russia."

    "There is an urgent need to create an army capable of fighting alongside our allies and defeating Russia in battle," the Independent quoted Sanders as saying. He also noted that his generation should prepare the army "to fight again in Europe."

    let me guess .... Sir Patrick Dickpuller Sanders the 3rd
    with a degree in Lawn Bowls .... Masters Degree in Masturbation

    I almost fell out of my chair laughing when Boris the Braindead
    announced that the British Army (lol) was going to train the Ukraine Army in street fighting ...
    the British ? wtf

    I will say this .... if you go to the Ukraine to "street-fight" you will run into Chechens ....
    you had better have your Will sorted out .....

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    Post  Gazputin Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:48 pm

    what a "surprise"
    a born narcissist with delusions of being the new "Churchill"

    just happens to turn up with a planeload of photographers
    who stage photos that show a remarkable resemblance to Churchill photos
    ..... what a "surprise" ..... pardon me whilst I throw up

    "UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson also made a surprise visit to Kiev this week, offering President Volodymyr Zelensky a major training program for Ukrainian forces, with the potential of training up to 10,000 soldiers every 120 days."

    .... such a total and utter wanker ....
    he is of course already writing his own "memoirs" ..... about himself

    meanwhile
    Poland sent all of their 200+ tanks to Ukraine
    they asked others to replace them .....

    Boris the Braindead seeing an opportunity for export sales leapt at it
    until someone told him that the UK "Army" only had 150
    most of which probably don't work ....

    he did apparently offer to send 200 kgs of KY Jelly instead ....

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:13 pm

    Wanting to look like Churchill, but looking more like Chamberlain instead.

    he did apparently offer to send 200 kgs of KY Jelly instead ....

    That is about as brave as Boris gets... handing over the lube to someone down the chain knowing his big loose arse doesn't need any lube for Bidens tiny pecker... and Boris probably likes raw dogging anyway... you can't beat a private school education in the UK... as Blackadder says... all you learn to do is to sing the school song really loud and how to take a hot crumpet from behind without blubbing.

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    Post  Broski Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:47 pm

    Gazputin wrote:"UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson also made a surprise visit to Kiev this week, offering President Volodymyr Zelensky a major training program for Ukrainian forces, with the potential of training up to 10,000 soldiers every 120 days."`
    So the UK is offering to train 20 days worth of cannon fodder every 120 days? Perhaps they need to look up the definition of "Attrition".

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    Post  LMFS Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:59 pm

    Representatives from over 130 countries, including ‘unfriendly states’, attended the annual SPIEF 2022 forum in St. Petersburg

    The 25th St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF 2022), held from June 15 to 18 in Russia, resulted in 5.6 trillion rubles ($97 billion) worth of agreements, which is 30% more than last year (3.8 trillion rubles).

    https://www.rt.com/business/557417-spief-forum-results-deals/

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    Post  Hole Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:09 pm

    Broski wrote:
    Gazputin wrote:"UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson also made a surprise visit to Kiev this week, offering President Volodymyr Zelensky a major training program for Ukrainian forces, with the potential of training up to 10,000 soldiers every 120 days."`
    So the UK is offering to train 20 days worth of cannon fodder every 120 days? Perhaps they need to look up the definition of "Attrition".

    If one can do it then the Brits. They got a huge success in Afghanistan with their 20 year training mission. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:41 pm

    Broski wrote:
    Gazputin wrote:"UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson also made a surprise visit to Kiev this week, offering President Volodymyr Zelensky a major training program for Ukrainian forces, with the potential of training up to 10,000 soldiers every 120 days."`
    So the UK is offering to train 20 days worth of cannon fodder every 120 days? Perhaps they need to look up the definition of "Attrition".

    On the latest figures from the Ukrainian side 20 days could be being very optimistic. The logistics are impressive if wildly optimistic, we are talking about 3 weeks training, so that's the best part of 1800 trainees to move in and out of wherever they are being trained. Crazy.

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