Russia and economic war by the west #2

Most Russians want a revival of Soviet brands, poll shows

"Synergy": more than 80 percent of Russians support the idea of ​​reviving Soviet brands

MOSCOW, July 10 - RIA Novosti. Most Russians support the idea of ​​reviving Soviet brands, the most appropriate is the return of brands for the production of cars, food and drinks, clothes and shoes, as well as perfumes and household chemicals, according to a study by the analytical center of the Synergy University, which is available to RIA Novosti.
After the introduction of Western sanctions against the country, the Russian authorities announced plans to revive some Russian car brands - Moskvich, Volga and Pobeda.
"83% of Russian citizens consider it necessary to revive Soviet brands against the backdrop of the departure of foreign companies from Russia . This includes such brands as Moskvich, Volga and Pobeda (cars), as well as Orsk" (refrigerators ) and "Kama" (bicycles). About 12% of citizens hold the opposite point of view, the remaining 5% found it difficult to answer, "says the study, which was conducted in July among five thousand residents of all regions of the country.

The participants of the study consider it most expedient to reanimate brands for the production of cars (as answered by 26% of respondents), food and beverages (21%), clothing and footwear (15%), perfumes and household chemicals (8%), household appliances and electronics (6% ), aircraft (3%). Another 12% chose the answer option "Other". At the same time, 9% are sure that Soviet brands need to be revived in all possible industries.
Critics of this trend believe that reanimated brands will not be able to compete with modern brands in terms of the quality of their products - this answer was given by 48% of the skeptics surveyed. According to 24% of respondents, it is better to create new brands than to revive those that have not stood the test of time. Another 17% do not support this trend, because they have had an unpleasant experience of using Soviet brands, and every eleventh Russian (11%) does not believe in the possibility of a full-fledged revival of Soviet brands: there is a risk that this will happen in words, not in practice .
Soviet things cause positive associations in 62% of the study participants. According to them, in the USSR they made mostly reliable (this definition was given by 84% of respondents) and affordable things (87%) that served several generations (91%). 30% of respondents have neutral associations when they remember things made in the USSR, and 8% have negative associations.

Hole wrote:Reliable stuff for generations... Greta Dumbberg must love soviet producers. 


3rd record in a row. Sanctions work great. 

sepheronx wrote:
That isn't necessarily true.  Strong surplus indeed due to having to switch to imports from elsewhere causing delays but also because of import substitution which is still in full swing. 2/3rds of its economy is still taxation and domestic consumption so I wouldn't worry much of its structure.  As lancelot pointed out majority of the drop of domestic production due to sanctions have been the automotive market and not much else beyond that.

Strong surplus will guarantee Russia has additional income to fund many projects including import substitution which is key to its development.

sepheronx wrote:

BTW, I think automotive will be the one solved the quickest.  I am excited to see Moscvitch vehicles.

kvs wrote: Nabiullina and the monetarist clowns have made sure that borrowing costs are lethal.   This is why Russian companies have
engaged in offshore borrowing and other rackets to compensate for lack of domestic lending or bank capacity.   Russia can fully steralize
all of this money by lending it to the domestic market.   Of course at rates of around 1%.    Nabiullina is undermining
the Russian economy with her BS about inflationary risk.   She has produce no shred of evidence to back her claims and justify her policies.

caveat emptor wrote:What Russia really needed before the war, was a stronger growth of medium salary and  minimum wage. It had record low unemployment, corporate profits were high and still wages didn't grow fast enough. Lower and lower middle class didn't have enough disposable income and payday loans were showing  high growth rates over last 7-8 years.

The anti-corruption committee proposed to return the article on sabotage

Senator Klishas: the anti-corruption committee proposed to return the article on sabotage to the Criminal Code

https://ria.ru/20220708/zakon-1801112415.html

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The letter notes that today in Russian legislation "there is no concept of harm and material damage that is difficult to determine" in relation to both national and economic security. "In fact, officials responsible for the dishonest performance of their duties, which led to a decrease in the country's defense capability, a negative impact on domestic industrial and financial markets, disruption of the state order, and so on and so forth, cannot be held accountable in the absence of direct material damage" , the appeal says.

As an example, the committee cites a "practical situation" in which "due to the inefficient implementation of the import substitution program and the sanctions imposed against our country, due to the lack of specific components, the Russian defense industry has lost the ability to produce strategic weapons that could have a direct impact on the situation" with a special operation in Ukraine . At the same time, the persons responsible for the implementation of a specific task did not commit theft or abuse, but their "administrative position caused significant harm to the country's defense capability."

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"The essence of the proposal in the letter to N.A.K. is that the incompetence of officials, which leads to threats to the country, is also grounds for bringing these persons to criminal liability. The proposal at least deserves serious discussion. When you look at the" successes "of our departments in import substitution and other areas, I would very much like to return the article on sabotage to the Criminal Code, it is so," Klishas wrote, commenting on the proposal.


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GunshipDemocracy wrote:

i would say talking about internal economic relations you cannot treat it as separate issue with power struggle (internally - oligarchs vs gosudartvenniki)  and external intl situation for Russia. Now Russia after being attacked by ze west has more freedom related to internal policy imho.  Oligarchs stay low and have nowhere to transfer usd/eur capital out of Russia. All PACE or EU political levers are being denounced.  

There us also yet another challenge - middle management. That's very dangerous one, much much more then any Vth column.  Incompetence/ass covering local /regional state administration and managers can do lots of harm. Just by doing nothing or doing pseudo import substitution - where most of "innards" in product in in fact made in western countries.

Hole wrote:Wait until the reconstruction of the old/new regions starts. They will need trains full of construction machines. Furniture. Dishwashers. There will be new factories build for that boom because the old ones won´t be able to produce all the goods, even when working 24/7.

caveat emptor wrote:Everytime i think about middle management and local power holders, i can't not to remember a movie Durak, which, pretty credibly, describes these people.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

caveat emptor wrote:What Russia really needed before the war, was a stronger growth of medium salary and  minimum wage. It had record low unemployment, corporate profits were high and still wages didn't grow fast enough. Lower and lower middle class didn't have enough disposable income and payday loans were showing  high growth rates over last 7-8 years.

i would say talking about internal economic relations you cannot treat it as separate issue with power struggle (internally - oligarchs vs gosudartvenniki)  and external intl situation for Russia. Now Russia after being attacked by ze west has more freedom related to internal policy imho.  Oligarchs stay low and have nowhere to transfer usd/eur capital out of Russia. All PACE or EU political levers are being denounced.  

There us also yet another challenge - middle management. That's very dangerous one, much much more then any Vth column.  Incompetence/ass covering local /regional state administration and managers can do lots of harm. Just by doing nothing or doing pseudo import substitution - where most of "innards" in product in in fact made in western countries.

The anti-corruption committee proposed to return the article on sabotage

Senator Klishas: the anti-corruption committee proposed to return the article on sabotage to the Criminal Code

https://ria.ru/20220708/zakon-1801112415.html

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The letter notes that today in Russian legislation "there is no concept of harm and material damage that is difficult to determine" in relation to both national and economic security. "In fact, officials responsible for the dishonest performance of their duties, which led to a decrease in the country's defense capability, a negative impact on domestic industrial and financial markets, disruption of the state order, and so on and so forth, cannot be held accountable in the absence of direct material damage" , the appeal says.

As an example, the committee cites a "practical situation" in which "due to the inefficient implementation of the import substitution program and the sanctions imposed against our country, due to the lack of specific components, the Russian defense industry has lost the ability to produce strategic weapons that could have a direct impact on the situation" with a special operation in Ukraine . At the same time, the persons responsible for the implementation of a specific task did not commit theft or abuse, but their "administrative position caused significant harm to the country's defense capability."

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"The essence of the proposal in the letter to N.A.K. is that the incompetence of officials, which leads to threats to the country, is also grounds for bringing these persons to criminal liability. The proposal at least deserves serious discussion. When you look at the" successes "of our departments in import substitution and other areas, I would very much like to return the article on sabotage to the Criminal Code, it is so," Klishas wrote, commenting on the proposal.


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caveat emptor wrote:I completely agree. That's why i called Russian middle management- " deep state" of Russia. These bureaucrats are masters of survival, mostly without being effective in solvimg problems.
Unfortunately, Russian economic and political ellites were very neoliberal in their thinking and that didn't help either.
We will see if this shock will change anything and make them move their ass.