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    Russia and economic war by the west #2

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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:28 pm

    Russia and economic war by the west #2 - Page 8 Fwk_iu10
    The economic front is as desastrous as the military one for the west

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    Post  franco Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:29 pm

    "Nip on the nose": The British press commented on Putin's decision on the Sakhalin-2 project

    Europe's energy giants have been given food for thought by learning about the nationalization of Sakhalin Energy, the operator of the Sakhalin-2 fields. By his decree concerning the future of a major international oil and gas project, Russian President Vladimir Putin sent a warning signal to Western countries.

    This is stated in the material of the newspaper Financial Times (UK).

    The British press commented on Putin's decision on the Sakhalin-2 project.

    Moscow does not want Shell to remain a ghost shareholder that does not generate profits - say Western journalists.

    They called this step by the Kremlin a warning signal to those foreign investors who want to sell their assets in joint projects as soon as possible. The author of an article in the British press believes that Putin gave them a "click on the nose."

    "Nip on the nose": The British press commented on Putin's decision on the Sakhalin-2 project

    Earlier, the Russian president issued a decree according to which Sakhalin Energy will be transformed into a new business entity. Prior to this, the Russian Gazprom, British-Dutch Shell and Japanese Mitsubishi and Mitsui were considered co-owners of the Sakhalin-2 oil and gas complex. Now these companies are required to confirm their equity participation in the new project in the same proportions within a month, but the new structure will pay taxes in Russia.

    The Sakhalin-2 project is currently operating on the Russian island of Sakhalin on the basis of a production sharing agreement. It includes three offshore drilling platforms, a complex of associated infrastructure on the coast, a port, a terminal for the export of produced oil and a plant for the production of liquefied natural gas (LNG).

    https://finobzor-ru.translate.goog/118990-schelchok-po-nosu-v-britanskoj-presse-prokommentirovali-reshenie-putina-po-proektu-sahalin-2.html?utm_source=topwar.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:39 pm

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/how-russia-earns-from-finlands-nato-membership/

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    Post  kvs Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:01 pm

    Hole wrote:https://www.stalkerzone.org/how-russia-earns-from-finlands-nato-membership/

    So sad, too bad. These clowns deserve to be booted from the Russian market. They were behaving towards Russians the same way
    that the frothing at the mouth Estonian chihuahuas were. Western haters need to be cut off. Let NATzO give them prosperity.

    The above article is actually rather shitty and does not describe the scale of the economic damage. Finland has been living off trade
    with Russia for decades. The list of Finnish companies in Russia and their revenues says f*ck all about this. Russian resources, including
    energy, were keeping the whole Finnish economy afloat. It would be better to describe the damage in terms of GDP contraction, but
    we will never see such information.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:08 pm

    A poster on ZH making some interesting points about the questionable legality in the EU of the sanctions and Lithuania's actions.

    That is correct and far more dangerous than the EU realizes. Part of the thing is that EU sanctions must hold up in EU courts. And this is a massive issue. The EU has already a 2002 agreement with Russia on Kaliningrad that guarantees the unimpeded transport of goods via Lithuania. This also falls under the larger 1997 EU-Russia partnership and cooperation agreement.

    Now, the triple whammy. In 2021, the UNHRC actually determined and passed a resolution that unilateral sanctions (i.e. not UNSC or WTO) violate the UN Charter (and are as such illegal). All nations on the UNHRC were in favor except EU nations on the UNHRC, the UK and Ukraine. Secondly, all treaties (agreements) fall under the law of treaties under the Vienna Convention and are international law. So, the treaties supersede the sanctions. And third the EU is completely divided already on sanctions.

    So, this opens the door to declaring the EU sanctions illegal in EU courts as they would violate the EU-Russia existing treaties and be violating international law. This they don't want. Sanctions are the bankers making their law, not the law and it is illegal. The bankers won't want to lose that power.

    So Lithuania may want to think about its barking a little bit...


    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/poland-says-eu-russia-agree-they-need-plan-kaliningrad

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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:07 pm

    Norway is "blocking" deliveries to Spitsbergen. Lavrov reminded them of the 1920 treaty. Likely the same end as the "blockade" of Kaliningrad. Quietly the deliveries will continue as before and the western politicians will pretend otherwise.

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    Post  LMFS Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:26 pm

    JohninMK wrote:A poster on ZH making some interesting points about the questionable legality in the EU of the sanctions and Lithuania's actions.

    Of course sanctions are illegal, they are equivalent to siege warfare and directly violate UN charter that prohibits any measure of force or even the threat of force in the international relationships. All these "beacons" of civilization are signatory of the charter, yet they wipe their asses with it on a daily basis. The politicians in charge can be easily indicted for gross violations of international law and crimes against humanity.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:28 pm

    Its over (also posted in other thread) Note the potential military escort threat Laughing


    EU Caves Putin Wins, Transportation of Russian Goods to Kaliningrad Through Lithuania Will Resume
    July 2, 2022 | sundance | 220 Comments

    Two weeks ago, a NATO blockade of Kaliningrad, an outpost of Russia, was triggered when Lithuania blocked the transport of goods through Suwalki corridor. According to the Lithuanian justification they were following through on NATO sanctions against Russian goods. However, the escalation was very provocative toward Russia and discussions between Russia and NATO countries were tense.

    Apparently, Germany was increasingly concerned the blockade was creating a scenario where Russian military were going to escort the transport of railroad goods to Kaliningrad, and that would lead to escalated military conflict with Russia. “German Chancellor Olaf Scholz is eager to avoid unnecessary provocations of Russia. He has repeatedly emphasized that he would do everything in his power to ensure that NATO does not become a party to the war between Russia and Ukraine. German soldiers are stationed in Lithuania and could become involved in a possible conflict.” {link}

    The EU has now dropped the blockade and the transport of goods between Kaliningrad and Russia will resume. The EU decision was made before the NATO meeting in Madrid concluded; however, it looks like NATO postponed the announcement until after Biden left in order to save face on the reversal of position.

    GERMANY – The European Commission plans to issue a clarification that will allow Russia to resume sending supplies to the exclave of Kaliningrad via Lithuania. Berlin supports the idea, but some in Vilnius are not pleased.

    […] The move will put an end to a disagreement that had not only been a significant source of tension between Russia and Brussels – but also exposed deep rifts within the EU regarding the correct approach to Moscow.

    […] The European Commission clarification expressly applies to all EU member states, but it mostly only affects the situation in Kaliningrad. According to the document, Russia will be allowed to transport sanctioned goods to Kaliningrad, but only in amounts comparable to pre-invasion deliveries.

    The policy that has been adopted by the Commission largely reflects the position of the German government. Berlin had been critical of the approach taken by Lithuania.

    German Chancellor Olaf Scholz is eager to avoid unnecessary provocations of Russia. He has repeatedly emphasized that he would do everything in his power to ensure that NATO does not become a party to the war between Russia and Ukraine. German soldiers are stationed in Lithuania and could become involved in a possible conflict.

    The rules for the transit of goods, Scholz said at the conclusion of recent NATO summit in Madrid, “must of course be established in light of the fact that this is about shipments between two parts of Russia.” The comment made it clear that Berlin has a different interpretation of the legal situation than the government in Lithuania.


    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/07/02/eu-caves-putin-wins-transportation-of-russian-goods-to-kaliningrad-through-lithuania-will-resume/#more-234754

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    Post  Sprut-B Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:09 pm

    https://www.rt.com/business/558090-russia-massive-oil-discovery-arctic/

    Collective Russophobes will cry & rage.

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    Post  Gazputin Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:09 pm

    this is funny
    on Kadyrov's Telegram channel

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    ⚡Urgently!

    In connection with the pushback of Ukrainian forces in Luhansk and the complete liberation of the republic from the Bandera occupiers, Zelensky signed an act of unconditional surrender. The record from the office is laid out first.

    We kindly ask you not to bombard the video with malicious comments, in order to avoid a heart attack of an already frightened person.

    The procedure was not without the help of well-known pranksters Vovan and Lexus @Russiacalling, as well as @comicadzeofhumor.

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    Post  Werewolf Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:20 pm

    Gazputin wrote:this is funny
    on Kadyrov's Telegram channel

    https://t.me/s/RKadyrov_95

    ⚡Urgently!

    In connection with the pushback of Ukrainian forces in Luhansk and the complete liberation of the republic from the Bandera occupiers, Zelensky signed an act of unconditional surrender. The record from the office is laid out first.

    We kindly ask you not to bombard the video with malicious comments, in order to avoid a heart attack of an already frightened person.

    The procedure was not without the help of well-known pranksters Vovan and Lexus @Russiacalling, as well as @comicadzeofhumor.

    That is a master piece! Laughing Laughing

    Historians in 200 years will either laugh their arses off or will be puzzled by what they find on the internet.

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    Post  franco Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:47 pm

    Historians in 200 years will either laugh their arses off or will be puzzled by what they find on the internet.

    Optimistic bastard aren't you russia

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    Post  Gazputin Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:11 am

    seems Roscosmos have a huge export opportunity here .... to the USA

    ROGOZIN
    "Hyperbaric chambers produced by the Khrunichev Center used to be equipped with leading clinics in Russia.
    This is a medical device designed to saturate the tissues of the body with oxygen at elevated pressure (hyperbaric oxygenation).
    The oxygen chamber allows you to effectively deal with the manifestations of hypoxia (lack of oxygen), has a complex therapeutic effect in many pathological conditions and chronic diseases, as well as, most importantly, in the healing of gunshot wounds."

    note the last bit there .... "as well as, most importantly, in the healing of gunshot wounds."

    every Black American family needs one of these ....


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    Post  GarryB Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:19 am

    Not good for smokers...
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    Post  GarryB Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:06 pm

    It seems the Japanese are not happy at Putins decree to nationalise the Sakhalin-2 project....

    Japan calls out Russia over move to end LNG
    Tokyo demands information about ownership change at Sakhalin-2

    Japan has requested an explanation from Russia regarding President Putin’s recent decree on the Sakhalin-2 LNG project, Foreign Minister Yoshimasa Hayashi said during a press conference on Tuesday.

    Last week, President Putin ordered the re-organization of the Sakhalin-2 LNG project, transferring ownership to a new, domestic, company. The move, which came in response to actions from ‘unfriendly states’, could force out Japanese investors Mitsui and Mitsubishi, which hold a 22.5% stake in the project. Moscow earlier accused Japan of benefiting from its participation in the project while joining the West in placing sanctions on Russia.

    “As for the Sakhalin-2 project, it is important for ensuring stable energy supplies for our country. I think that the presidential decree does not mean that energy supplies from Sakhalin will be immediately stopped,” Hayashi said, as quoted by RIA Novosti.

    “However, a detailed analysis of information is currently being carried out on how the rights of Japanese companies will be respected under this decree, as well as what impact this will have on LNG supplies to Japan,” he added.

    Japan said it would not give up its interests in the project, which is important for the country’s energy security. Sakhalin is the closest LNG facility to Japan and shipments from the site on Russia’s far eastern coast take less than two days to arrive, compared to around a month for imports from the US. Japan imports 10% of its LNG each year from Russia, mainly under long-term contracts from Sakhalin-2.

    The Japanese government is reportedly starting to prepare for a possible energy crisis in the country and has recently told residents and businesses in the Tokyo area to conserve energy to avert blackouts.

    Careful whose shoes you piss on at the Urinal...  

    https://www.rt.com/business/558398-japan-concerned-over-russian-lng/

    Seems Russia is no longer the soft cuddly fool who will take an attack and just wear it.

    The Japanese recently agreed at the last G7 meeting to an oil price cap for Russian oil at half the current price... that response was quick...

    And as Medvedev said.... reduce oil supply to the market and the price goes up... not down.

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    Post  kvs Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:42 pm

    "Japan calls out". LOL. Japan is part of the sanctions mob and is in no position to call out anything.
    Russia should not even bother replying to Japan's petulant screeching. It is absurd how "western" clowns
    expect to have their cake and eat it too. Russia is supposed to supply you with cheap resources while
    you attempt to destroy it? For real?

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    Post  GarryB Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:55 am

    It is amusing how genuinely shocked western officials pretend to be when Russia responds to western sanctions on Russia designed to damage the Russian enconomy and hurt Russians.

    They openly discuss their options to damage Russia without hurting themselves too much, which is hilarious because they never take into account that their sanctions will be responded to by Russia.

    They don't seem to understand that Russia understands what they are doing and why and that Russia submiting to rule from Washington is never going to happen... and so the two possible outcomes are nuclear war which is suicide for both sides, and therefore never the first choice and the other is to continue down the sanction and counter sanction road where the west carefully cuts ties and relations and trade with Russia and Russians to try to minimise their own suffering and for Russia responds by cutting the ties the west didn't cut because it would hurt them more than it hurt Russia.

    The logical conclusion can only be all ties and relations and cooperation cut, embassies closed and walls being built with zero traffic in either direction... with the obvious result that both sides will have to rely on themselves and the rest of the world to meet their needs.

    How will the west hold up... will they continue to take orders from Washington after the damage the loss of cheap Russian energy is going to do to their economies... how is US society going to take the extremes the democraps seem to be going... all these shootings and the media frenzy regarding coverage of them... how many reports are there of people defending themselves from violent criminals because they were armed... none... the Democraps want to defund the police and get guns off the streets... with half the population voting for Trump, and the whole population paranoid and not communicating with the other half... sounds like a civil war could start easily enough by natural causes, but piss off India or China or Russia and how many other countries and they might take a few steps to make it more likely to happen... considering what the US has done to their countries it is the least they could do.

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    Post  kvs Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:54 pm

    "Funnel to Putin" right into his personal bank account.

    Russia is nothing more than Putin. Easy to demonize a single man. The average NATzO sap will lap it up like a retarded dog.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:39 am

    At a German party one Saturday evening next winter

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:35 am

    kvs wrote:"Funnel to Putin" right into his personal bank account.

    Russia is nothing more than Putin.   Easy to demonize a single man.   The average NATzO sap will lap it up like a retarded dog.


    and you shall add - this account is in western banks of course.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:45 am

    "Funnel to Putin" right into his personal bank account


    It says it there in black and white in the two bullet points... India and China have increased their purchases of Russian energy and that is working against western efforts to punish Russia.

    No question about why Europe and the US think they have the right to punish Russia for defending itself on its own border.

    More importantly the headline should read "fucking stupid western attempts to punish Russia for defending its own interests leads to China and India being able to buy what would have been maybe 15 billion dollars worth of energy for 24 billion dollars instead of the 35 billion it would have cost them at the current market rates the western shitfuckery has created for itself.

    China and India didn't just hand Russia 24 billion dollars for nothing, they sold 24 billion dollars worth of their own resources for that money at a reduce rate that is still inflated because of the stupid actions of the west.

    If the west had don't nothing they likely would have been able to buy that 24 billion dollars worth of oil and gas for less than 10 billion because the price of oil and gas has more than quadrupled thanks to them and their actions.

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    Post  LMFS Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:47 am

    Behold the clowns. Exactly as we knew they would, they blamed Russia for reducing the gas flow through Nord Stream 1 for political reasons, but they take no embarrassment that the solution needs to come from Canada Embarassed

    Canada has found a way to return the turbine for Nord Stream, bypassing the sanctions imposed on Russia

    Canada has found a solution to bypass anti-Russian sanctions to return a repaired turbine for the gas pumping station of the Nord Stream gas pipeline. It is reported by Reuters, citing sources.

    Canada will not return the turbine to Russia, since sanctions have been imposed against it, it will send it to Germany, which initiated the return of the equipment. As one of the unnamed sources familiar with the situation explained, such a decision would allow Canada to avoid violating its own sanctions against Russia.

    As stated, the decision to return the turbine has already been made, in the near future it will go to Germany, and the Germans will already hand it over to Gazprom. There is no information yet on the timing of the return, but apparently the Germans will be in a hurry and try to transfer the turbine in the coming days so that the repair takes place as part of the planned work on the gas pipeline during a complete shutdown, which will last 10 days. Germany hopes that after installing the turbine at the Portovaya gas pumping station, the Russian company will once again increase gas supplies via Nord Stream, which will allow Germany to continue filling UGSFs ahead of winter.

    Gazprom twice reduced the volume of gas pumped for technical reasons, at present Germany receives no more than 67 million cubic meters of gas per day, when earlier the volume of pumping was 167 million cubic meters.

    Recall that the decision of Canada to return the turbine did not please Kyiv, where even a letter was written to the Canadians with a request not to give the equipment to the “occupiers”, so that Moscow would receive less money for gas and not spend it on the “war against Ukraine”. According to Kyiv, the Russian economy will again make a profit, which means that the date of its "final collapse" is again pushed back.

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    Post  LMFS Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:50 pm

    Iran has announced the completion of the first shipment of Russian cargo to India via the North-South transport corridor.

    "The cargo left Saint Petersburg on 13 June, passing through the Caspian Sea port of Anzali and the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas before arriving in India.

    Trade launched between India and Russia through Iran via the INSTC will make transport between Moscow and New Delhi quicker and more affordable.

    It will also establish Iran as a major transport hub for the newly operational shipping corridor.

    A number of Central Asian countries, including Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, conduct trade through the INSTC."...

    thecradle.co

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:19 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Who cares, its all just nonsense being imposed by the West, once the West falls or losses enough influence, slavery,  pedofilia, child labor, end of womens right, are all gonna make a big comeback.

    Becuase in the end, there is no objective morallity, much less a universal morallity, its all just imposed nonsense.

    That sounds a lot like the pro America fanboy defence when it is proven America are a bunch of self centred censored  who couldn't care less about anyone but the 1% funding their campains and their comfortable retirements... yeah it is bad but it would be much worse if Russia or China were in charge... ignoring the fact that most countries who oppose the west don't allow those things or don't need to because womens rights are not really a problem in Russia like it was in the west.

    More importantly there are plenty of US close allies where slavery and child labour and womens rights and child molesters are walking free or even own their own islands because once you have money the laws no longer apply to you in the west.

    I was on the phone at the time, so my response was limited, but it still stands.

    There is no such thing as a universal morality, different nations and different cultures that will lead to what "we" would consider to be sinful/degenerate, to be the norm or to be morally upright thing in these places.

    And yes, America may be allies with certain places counter to their morality, but we know that the U.S still tries to push their universal delusions into these countries just at a much slower pace, when compared to their Blitz in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Collapse??... well there will be a major economic shake-up to say the least, but that's not my point, without the West or should i say "The International Community", the push to turn to world in a more western direction will cease, all these Western funded NGOs and their numerous affiliates around the world will be no more, allowing nations to go their own way, more so than ever.

    Before we had the British influence, then the American one, soon we will have neither, what do you think is going to happen?
    Especially given that Russia nor China intend to build empire.

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