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    Russia and economic war by the west

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    Post  lancelot Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:42 am

    kvs wrote:Russia will ship its oil to non-EU and non-US customers. EU can source oil from other suppliers.  
    The current sanctions spasm is blocking Russian port activity.   These retards are oblivious to their need for fertilizer imports from Russia
    and those stocks are stuck in Russian ports.   Really, the major risk here is not from Russia imposing embargoes on exports to the collective
    west, but from the retards who run the collective west imposing those embargoes themselves.
    I agree. But switching oil inputs is going to be harder for Europe to do than a lot of people think. Russian oil is heavy and is good for making diesel which is what most of Europe uses in the first place. It will require a huge investment to change things around. Fracked oil is also useless since it is mostly lighter elements and you would be hard pressed to even refine gasoline out of it. The US will have to get either Canadian or Venezuelan oil or both into the refineries in the US Gulf Coast. Those are heavy oils good for diesel and aviation gas.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:08 pm

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    Lavrov nails it:

    "Now we are not talking about Ukraine at all, but about aggression against all Russia: interests, religion, culture, language, security. The frenzied reaction of the West (...) a life-and-death battle for Russia's right to be on the political map of the world."

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    Post  Hole Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:28 pm

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    Post  Lurk83 Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:02 pm

    Kremlin does not rule out meeting between Putin and Zelensky - TASS

    didn’t see that coming.
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:07 pm

    Lurk83 wrote:Kremlin does not rule out meeting between Putin and Zelensky - TASS

    didn’t see that coming.

    On terms of surrender lol.

    Zelensky doesn't rule and putin knows it. All about optics.

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    Post  Hole Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:05 pm

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    Post  lancelot Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:19 pm

    The cost increase should be higher for some routes. As you are required by law to have two crews if the flight takes more than a certain time.

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    Post  mnrck Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:09 am

    Note that Kiev keeps asking for more anti Russia sanctions while talking of negotiation (maybe on surrender terms), Moscow says Russia will continue the special operation and does not ask for sanctions lifting, whatever.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:36 pm

    https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/20220314/eaes-i-knr-razrabotayut-proekt-nezavisimoy-mezhdunarodnoy-valyutno-finansovoy-sistemy-39753506.html

    This is big news , apparently March 11 was discussed an international payment system with EAEU and China, using commodity prices to back a currency system

    So a new international currency is being developed to trade , that is based on the prices of commodities of a basket of countries,

    That is a very big move at the global governance level

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    Post  Erk Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:53 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/20220314/eaes-i-knr-razrabotayut-proekt-nezavisimoy-mezhdunarodnoy-valyutno-finansovoy-sistemy-39753506.html

    This is big news , apparently March 11 was discussed an international payment system with EAEU and China, using commodity prices to back a currency system

    So a new international currency is being developed to trade , that is based on the prices of commodities of a basket of countries,

    That is a very big move at the global governance level

    That doesn't make sense to me, perhaps it's poorly worded.

    How do you back a currency with a commodity price?
    A price is something that requires a currency, therefore you are backing a currency with a currency and that doesn't make sense.

    Russia and China can issue a common digital currency backed by gold to settle international debt. They both have enough gold, and being a new currency, you can determine the initial exchange rate for gold and how much currency is issued. Also with a digital currency you can program a use by date so investors don't horde it, that way it keeps being used for international settlement rather than speculative investment.




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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:03 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/20220314/eaes-i-knr-razrabotayut-proekt-nezavisimoy-mezhdunarodnoy-valyutno-finansovoy-sistemy-39753506.html

    This is big news , apparently March 11 was discussed an international payment system with EAEU and China, using commodity prices to back a currency system

    So a new international currency is being developed to trade , that is based on the prices of commodities of a basket of countries,

    That is a very big move at the global governance level


    It might be big news BUT this is NOT a general purpose update thread. Read the F...ing title. Its for UKRAINE

    This is not the first time either.

    Paging Garry

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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:16 pm

    Washington is getting desperate and is threatening to sanction any country which trades with Russia.

    I think the saying that "history repeats as a farce" will apply to the US attempt to restore its Cold War imperial meddling racket.
    It could scare up local elites with the menace of commie overthrow in the past but now it is trying to intimidate them like the
    mafia.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:38 pm

    lancelot wrote:The cost increase should be higher for some routes. As you are required by law to have two crews if the flight takes more than a certain time.

    To really put salt in the wound, due to fee collection issues, Russia could offer free overflights to non sanctioned airlines for a period. Then those airlines would not be trading with Russia Laughing
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:55 am

    Also johninmk don't be mad but:

    Guys Elvira Niabiullina is up for nomination June 24

    Putin must either renominate her or submit a new candidate to the lower house of congress by no later than March 24

    This is hugely important related to news LMFS posted about EAEU

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:11 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Also johninmk don't be mad but:

    Guys Elvira Niabiullina is up for nomination June 24

    Putin must either renominate her or submit a new candidate to the lower house of congress by no later than March 24

    This is hugely important related to news LMFS posted about EAEU

    Why put it here?

    What is wrong with putting it into the financial thread running in parallel to this one?

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:13 am

    Wouldn't you say JohninMk, that the economic news factors into the war In Ukraine?

    Many people are wondering what Russian designs are, but they do not take into account the economic development

    That's why it's important to make people aware the steps Russia is taking to counter sanctions, and it's designs for Ukraine in the supranational bloc EAEU

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:28 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Wouldn't you say JohninMk, that the economic news factors into the war In Ukraine?

    Many people are wondering what Russian designs are, but they do not take into account the economic development

    That's why it's important to make people aware the steps Russia is taking to counter sanctions, and it's designs for Ukraine in the supranational bloc EAEU

    Just read the title of the thread.

    WTF has sanctions and the other interesting economic news stuff got to do with it?

    Don't you understand that there is another thread, at least one, around here more suitable?

    If you are not careful all kinds of marginally relevant bits appear and before you know it the thread integrity is shot, it grows like crazy and you can't find the posts actually on subject. Its bad enough now at times.

    I'm sure you don't want that, I'm sure most of us don't, so PLEASE keep on topic.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:39 am

    JohninMk, okay fine then

    What you should really worry is clogging the threads is the massive amount of shitposters trolling on this forum

    You know exactly who I'm talking about, but fine I won't post any news relevant to EAEU

    Enjoy the 15 pages of trolls post that are the real reason the threads are fucked

    Not 3 or 4 posts about EAEU but the 4 or 5 trolls on here shitposting entire pages of BULLSHIT
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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:41 am

    I am pleased Bermuda is revoking the licences of Russian planes... they did it as a tax dodge so **** them... dirty bastards.

    With all the western planes they buy and dirty tactics to avoid paying proper levels of tax I rather suspect those Russian airlines need a good cleanout of western managers and accountants for good.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:18 pm

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    The #EU approves a fourth package of sanctions against #Russia, including:

    📍 A ban on luxury goods to Russia;
    📍 a ban on imports of Russian steel and iron to the EU;
    📍 a ban on new investment in Russia's energy sector, the supply of technology or equipment, and the provision of services for the exploration, extraction or processing of energy resources;
    📍 a ban on providing credit rating services to any Russian individuals or companies;
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:19 pm

    Garry

    Can you make this thread a 'sticky' until its over please?

    To make it easier to find for one of our posters Smile

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:03 pm

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    Sometimes I can only stop and stare in awe at the power of the US propaganda machine. Almost the entire global north has been paced into perfect alignment with cold war agendas geared toward securing US unipolar dominance by an unprecedented propaganda and censorship campaign.


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    This is from current CIA chief William J. Burns's memoirs, "The Back Channel," published in 2019. Nothing to do with NATO expansion, right.


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