Israel vs Iran Possible War?

Of course he is angry... luring the officials of another country, perhaps over for peace talks or something similar, and then attacking them with ballistic missiles or drone strikes is something America would never do... today.... but any other day would be OK...  

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/187138/VIDEO-Mass-funeral-of-Martyr-Khodaei-attended-by-Tehraners


I am starting to think that , this fake assassination , as well as intimidating the " opposition " , through the use of names and associations , also comes at a very convenient time , when street protests were starting again , crowds on the street , shootings etc. How public opinion is diverted to Israel ! A manipulation of public opinion . Was the shooting down of Ukraine plane over Tehran , also a diversionary attempt at public opinion ? Remember there were millions on the street (the General soleymani assassination ) that posed a possible danger to regime ( large crowds ) , by sheer numbers . An inside job by Iranian security , after all . And not yank special forces ! The security detail of Fakhrizadeh , the lead vehicle , abandoned him , just before shooting too ! The same security services that sold ? the nuclear secrets to Israel . According to Ahmadinejad ? Well , I for one , am not getting diverted !


Change is needed in Iran . No war with Israel yet . More important things at home .


Long live the democratic Republic of Iran .

Jerusalem Post wrote:Israel makes dramatic upgrades to military plans to attack Iran
https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-708875

Someone would like to seriously on the face ...

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:

Jerusalem Post wrote:Israel makes dramatic upgrades to military plans to attack Iran
https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-708875

Someone would like to seriously on the face ...

About time to place Israel where it should be. Nazi state in the Middle east that perceives itself as superior in religion, "ethnicity" and "civilization" to any other being.

With he diminishing influence and potential of the US to strike everywhere as they like it will be interesting to see what and how the middle eastern region will develop it's alliances and sphere of influence. With the Turks as a leader trying to create a pan-turkic sphere of influence it will also play into hands of arabic countries to create healthy ties and relationships as a link between the "turkish" world and the arabic/asian world. If they fail to take this opportunity they will reduce their possibility to overcome their current position as just an oil reservoir.

They might not continue to get blind support from the west when the west has their own problems to deal with...

Certainly they can't spare any Javelins or Stingers...

What is happening now?

What is Good for the Goose ? Both playing same game , Iranians and Israelis . Internal unrest followed by external threats and problem making , to divert attention and keep extremists in power . Nothing will come out of it . Are you distracted by this extremist right wing apparatus ? Good .......Good .

@Iranobserver01
An Iranian military advisor was killed on Friday in Israeli attack on Syria's damascus
Iran's revolutionary guards say undoubtedly Israel's crime will not go "Unanswered" — Tasnim

@Sprinter99880
Today's Israeli newspaper headline: If [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu and [Israeli Defense Minister Yoav] Galant make a proposal, the cabinet will approve a plan to attack Iran

Israel has a very capable military but Iran has gotten better than they were... I don't think they can just bomb places they think have nuclear weapons facilities and just walk away from that...

@IranObserver0
Iran must face a credible nuclear threat — Netanyahu
Seems like only option left for is striking Iran with a nuclear weapon.
It is highly time we build our own nukes and increase the range of our missiles

https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1705511380109992011

GarryB wrote:Israel has a very capable military but Iran has gotten better than they were... I don't think they can just bomb places they think have nuclear weapons facilities and just walk away from that...

There is no point in a war between Iran and Israel . First no side will gain any territory , since no land battle possible . Second the destruction will be mutual and short of bolstering the political position of hardliners on both sides initially , will if prolonged lead to social disturbances . More so inside Israel . So the only remaining use of the threat of war , is political . It keeps the extremists in power in Iran , their religious rhetoric upheld , the religious theatre to entertain the masses . And similarly the right wing Zionists , their story of everlasting persecution and genocide , necessitating an everlasting " defensive " war .




https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PBoSpAfGmT0&pp=ygUlUmlnaHQgd2luZyB6aW9uaXN0cyBhZ2FpbnN0IGRlbW9jcmFjeQ%3D%3D

GarryB wrote:Israel has a very capable military

Serious question- why would you think Israel has a very capable military? They have never fought against a near peer rival.

Much as per Iran's response to the death of Major General Qasem Soleimani. Revenge served cold.

Elijah J. Magnier
@ejmalrai
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Dec 25
Iran will not retaliate against #Israel in any way to divert attention from the Palestinian cause.
The Iranians do not react immediately, but choose a suitable target and hit it directly or indirectly. There are plenty of Israeli (painful) targets around.

Brigadier General Sayed Radha Mussawi was assassinated by #Israel today in #Syria after seven failed attempts in the past years to kill him. He arrived to #Lebanon in 1986 and served for many years to support the beginning of #Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The assassination of Sayyed Mussawi is far from crippling or delaying the support #Iran is providing to #Syria, to #Palestine or #Lebanon. However, Iran is already getting its revenge from #Israel: the closure of the Red Sea, Hezbollah’ borders engagement and the Palestinian attacks are more than enough ongoing vengeance.

How many Iranian advisors have been killed by Israel in Syria ? Iran will not even release the number . Why ? Because it won't retaliate against Israel directly , as it should . And Israel knows this , and will keep on attacking . The only people that can retaliate against Israel for killing Iranians , are other Iranians . Not Russians , or the Yemenis , Lebanese or Palestinians . Are these "martyrs ," serving Iranian national interests ? Maintaining the welfare of friends and keeping enemies at bay ? Opening trade routes and keeping them safe for Iran ? Then they must be protected . Are these " martyrs, " a way for a minority right wing group , to maintain their rule , encouraging " self - sacrifice , " for " Islam , " and protecting a building ( religious shrine ) to gain popular support and keep themselves in power ? Then they will not be avenged . These poor " martyrs, " are political window dressing , and sacrificial lamb .

During the Mahsa Amini protests , Iranian military units , gathered in front of residential apartments . They threatened to storm the buildings , saying " ...we have served in Syria ! " Did they learn to shoot people in their eyes with shot- gun pellets and blind them there too ? Religious fever can only take Iranians so far , and no further . Iranians in power , can not protect national interests . Since their interests are limited to keeping themselves and their class in power at any cost . They have done this for forty years , by using religion , as a means to dominate . The only way for Iranians to solve national and regional problems in their favour , is by changing the political status quo . The minority rule must end and free elections held . Positive change , when it happens , does so quickly .

Serious question- why would you think Israel has a very capable military? They have never fought against a near peer rival.

They have the best western equipment US taxpayers money can buy and they modify it too to make it as much as they can manage "better".

They also have no qualms at all in terms of fighting and with cheat and fight dirty to gain every advantage they can manage.

Iran will not retaliate against #Israel in any way to divert attention from the Palestinian cause.

Iran has a wide range of weapons and equipment it can pass on to various factions currently fighting Israel... things like long range sniper rifles, or of course drones and ballistic rockets could all be used to damage Israel during its current conflict in Israel or elsewhere.

Low flying long range attack drones like the once they sold to Russia for licence production would be quite a problem for Israeli air defences, not to mention their own wide range of other weapons they produce for themselves which seem to work rather well in their own right.

Come to think about it , the Islamic Republic , since it's founding ( During Khalkhali's time )  , as well as eliminating any and all divergent and opposition views , did carry out executions , real or false of people with surnames that were similar to important opposition figures . They did this as a warning to keep them quiet . I think they may be doing this again . The surname of this supposed soldier , is the same as ex-prime minister under house arrest , a reformist figure . So the state has interests in engineering this event . They give a warning to the reformist camp , as well as diverting attention from internal political strife , over the " elections , " stealing the limelight and imposing a political mindset ( paradigm / milieu ) .  They don't have to retaliate against Israel either , hence the ambigious posture . Real casualties of Israeli attacks , remain unidentified , buried most probably under a story , that they were Iran/ Iraq war casualties , or old casualties in Syria , fighting the terror groups . I have heard that coffins may actually be empty , only serving to wip up religious fever ! We have to allow the possibility that Soleymani and Fakhrinejad may have been excluded from their activities , as a gesture to the West , if alive , given fresh identities and hidden . Elvis may still be alive !

Israel cranking up the "attack us pretty please" message. Double tap for Christs sake on civilians.


NUMBER OF DEAD IN TERRORIST ATTACK ON IRAN
IS APPROACHING 150

Iranian Minister of Interior:

• “This terrorist act will be met with a strong and decisive response from the security and military apparatus in the shortest possible time.”

• “The first explosion occurred at 3PM, and when people rushed to come & help the wounded, a second explosion occurred at 3:20PM; most of the martyrs & injured are affected by the second explosion.”

• “The situation in Kerman is normal now, and everything is under the control of the security and law enforcement forces.”

• “The enemy tried to carry out explosions in various ceremonies, which was thwarted by our intelligence forces.”

Il Russo reports

Doubt it is the work of Israel . It is not a military target , and it has the effect of unifying Iranians by inflaming nationalistic and religious sentiments . Not exactly productive for Israel . Israel can not bank on American support , in case of direct war with Iran either . Or a clear plan to win that war . Nor is it likely an extremist group from opposition or ethnic groups , for the same reason and terrible retribution ! No , the beneficiary is someone who can use nationalistic and religious fever , at a time ,when the Islamic Republic is no longer in fashion , with very low voter turnout , loosing legitimacy , in upcoming fake elections ! Similar attacks were done against Mosques as diversion during recent protests . Likely an inside job by extremist right wing groups to solidify their political stance .

You may be right, Iran won’t come to Hamas or Hezbollah’s aid directly because Khamanei like the other Ayatollahs prioritise their survival and of its underlying autocratic systems a lot more.

But at the moment I suspect that Israel is well aware of the black hole it has put itself on the edge of and is desperate to bring its big brother, the US, into the war by whatever means it can. Whilst hitting a target like this has no military value it puts huge pressure on Iran to do something. That it isn't, in the short run at least, is a real restraint.


OSINTdefender
@sentdefender
The Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei has reportedly ordered for IRGC Military Commanders to Limit their ongoing Attacks on U.S. and Coalition Forces within Syria and Iraq in recent Days; with Khamenei claimed to have further stated that Iran must Avoid any kind of Direct Military Confrontation with the United States at all Costs.

The Bombing yesterday in the City of Kerman was also reportedly mentioned in recent Discussions between Khamenei and Military Commanders, in which he directed that “Strategic Patience” must be had following the Attack in order to Discover the Parties who are Truly Responsible.

Iran needs to not fall in the trap that is set for them, Alex is right.

I agree it is probably a trap, but Iran could turn a western trap into something that breaks the west.

Ukraine was a trap too... it has created the best boost to the Russian economy and allowed them to kick out a lot of traitors and parasites and change thing to suit Russia for Russians.

It has clearly damaged HATO and the EU who don't look anywhere near as powerful and unified as they used to pretend they were.

The fact that after only two years they are running out of ammo to supply suggests they were a paper tiger... and the fact that they have blown perhaps 200 billion US dollars in that time plus who knows how many other billions of dollars since 2014 that have been spent on them, and it will probably take ten years to replace the weapons and ammo they have used up let alone working out how much they should have in storage in case they get involved in a real conflict.

Maybe now would be the best time to get into a conflict with the US... the way the US behaves such a conflict is probably inevitable...

The main target in Erbil, before and after. Was it Mosad or just the house of a billionaire? Whatever, Iran decided that it needed 5 ballistic missiles.

A slightly off topic question:

Does any of you guys know what the support for the current government in Iran is? I have heard from an Iranian that it's low, especially among the youth. Any confirmation of this?