GarryB wrote:I would say the Taleban have been rather more civilised than the Americans so far... if the roles were reversed would the US leave an airfield open for Taleban sympathisers to leave the country over a period of days or weeks?
Those who is in charge colour maps of Afghanistan are much easier to draw now... but you need a lot of red ink.
The irony too is that with the Taleban in charge and the opposition holed up in basically one valley, at least progress can be more positive... when the Chinese start building roads the Taleban will at least make them actually safe... by not making them unsafe...
Lots of infrastructure projects can go ahead... this might actually be good for Afghanistan...
BTW if I was Uganda I would ask for the money from the US in advance... wouldn't trust their promises very far myself to be honest...
Taliban.....civilized LOL, Your so Anti-US you are now defending head-choppers, do me a favor. Get on a plane go to Afghanistan and see how "civilized" the Taliban are. I really mean this, because that remark was so full of shit.
Fact is, if you think American is bad the Taliban are far worse. We never lashed young girls for wearing sandals, its disgusting you actually said that
The only reason they are letting those people go is that they are mixed in with US personal and the Taliban aren't dumb enough to start a fight with us, they want us to go, and letting some civilians go is a small price to pay for this.
There is no good will behind it at all.
Garry's observation is correct.
If the role's where reversed, We would not let them go. They would be blown into Low-earth orbit by B-1/52 strikes carrying 2000-pounder JDAM's while taking video's that would be shown on western media.
Outside of the Track-record of atrocities commited by the Taliban....
They could have easily taken the Kabul airfield as well. Over-running any NATO infantry gaurding the base there.
It would be an total humiliation for the U.S and NATO if that happened. But the west would be unable to do anything about it.
NATO is logsitically and millitarily hollowed out of decades of war and foreign interventions.
Any threat's the U.S or NATO makes are a paper tiger. There are no ways to project force anymore in Afghanistan.
Air support?. even if they where on Dubai they would need tankers and too much time to reach Kabul to do anything.
Besides that, Taliban knows how NATO likes to use air support and try to close the distance with NATO infantry to prevent air support from engaging.
Untill not so long ago, We as NATO and Taliban would shoot eachother on-sight.
The fact that Taliban stopped at the airfield and keep restraint on their forces and say "you got untill 11th of September to Leave" is goodwill/mercy from their side.
It is our own politicians and millitary leaders that failed utterly, they sleepwalked into an potential Dunkirk 2021 with around 6000 troops and embassy staff trapped on Kabul Airfield.
Personally speaking, i am glad it did not came to that. I am gratefull that NATO forces on Kabul get almost 4 weeks to get out without being harassed.
We have the chance to get around 6000 of our own people back, unhurt. Instead of having them used for propaganda, tortured, and executed.
The situation on the ground in Kabul is what it is, nothing will change that now.
The only ones that should bear the full responsibility of this abysmal failure are the western politicians and millitary leaders.