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kvs wrote:But Russian subs are vastly inferior to US wonders. The "whole world knows it".
Mao was right, the west is a paper tiger. It is generally true that empires are built on perception of power and not actual realization of such power.
The clowns in Washington and the oligarchs who own them may think they can fight China and Russia at once, but that does not mean that they
have the ability.
"whole world knows" is just a bunch of propaganda delivered to the western audience.
Some of you are old enough to remember a Harpoon series of strategy games.
Every single parameter put into the program considering the Sovit weapon systems were inferior to the western ones.
Yet the program code still retained additional lines to deprive the statistic unfavorably for the Soviet side.
This is how "western supremacy" is being created for decades, if not ages.
What is a core of the problem, is the fact that most of the audience is illiterate considering the mentioned matters.
In my whole career, I have never met a military man that would disgrace the Russians, their equipment, or their skills.
Not a bloody single officer ever did, in private conversations.
Opposite.
Some of them were really impressed of how the Russkie deal with things in cost-effective manner.
The things the politicians are blah blahing have nothing in common with the opinions of professionals.
There was only one sort of people who denied this general rule, and the mercenaries we are talking about.
Yes, they showed openly a full disrespect and asked what are they doing here an answer "arrived to kill the Russkie bastards" was common.
But let's be fair, those are very specified types of human minds, and none of us would like to marry his daughter with any of them.
Mir wrote:Exactly. The US design philosophy with the Los Angeles was to design a boat that could reach 30-35 knots to keep up with the Soviet subs. Despite all their gazillions of R&D money the best they could come up with was to reduce the thickness of the hull's steel and by doing so the submarine was unable to dive very deep. This decision instantly rendered them pretty useless in terms of countering any Soviet submarine threat.
This is another example of how propaganda worked for the last 40 years
688 series was made as an inexpensive and mass sub project to catch up the overwhelming Soviet number.
It was full of compromises, and at the end it run slower, dived shallower, and carried less ordnance than equivalent Soviet subs.
But on the bright side, it was three times more expensive, too!
Virginia is no better, as it is nothing more than 688I(M) how we would call it in Russia.
So how to cover the simple fact that the US submarine fleet was like Chevrolet compared with Cadillac?
PROPAGANDA!
Vid games for kids and youths, movies for adults, talking heads in TV repeating same shit, propaganda all over.
