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flamming_python wrote:The next question of course is where we will get all these new people from
Must be some potentials still left behind in Ukraine and perhaps the Baltics.
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Must be some potentials still left behind in Ukraine and perhaps the Baltics.
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ALAMO wrote:flamming_python wrote:The next question of course is where we will get all these new people from
That is not so much complicated, you are making it via economical means.
SU was actively pushing for East, and one of the gains was additional payment you could get.
As long as you live in a stable country and predictable economy, lots of people would apply.
Imagine living in Moscow, able to pay the credit for 30m2 app, while just for the same money you can get a 100m2 fresh new flat in a well developed city zone.
With stable jobs, great environmental assets, good connection etc.
That is one of the phenomena of Kazan - the fastest developing city in Russia if I remember. Good infrastructure, climate, great location. They have gained 200k inhabitants in less than a decade.
I have witnessed just the same process, as Russian troops left Poland in 1993, leaving behind infrastructure. It was sucked for other purposes immediately.
You can buy a whole house in an abandoned Siberian village for 1 rouble if you want
As for living in a well developed city zone, well, houses around Krasnoyarsk or Novosibirsk will already cost you far less than anything in Moscow
But sure I get it. A whole new ultra-modern small little city, with accommodation for workers and their families maybe with the chance to privatize them in the future. This will still be subject to whether the city ultimately takes off or not, or whether it will only live for as long as the resources around it are still being exploited.
However this is ultimately just internal migration within Russia, and one that will cost a whole load of money. There are cheaper ways to exploit resources. And there are cities in Siberia already. Just my thoughts.
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I can mention at least one city/cluster of cities that are growing exponentially: Surgut, Nizhnevartovsk and Khanty-Mansiysk
All booming thanks to the oil industry.
Here is the population curve of Surgut for example:
Climate is relatively harsher, but salaries are great thanks to the fossil fuel industry and the services it requires.
Jobs are plentiful for the people who want to settle there. Long term contracts with resettling allowances are being offered.
And people are coming from all over Russia as well as from Ex-USSR countries such as Ukraine, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan etc.
In a few years, Surgut population will reach half a million.
Same phenomenon is happening in the 2 nearby towns I mentioned.
As populations grow, more and more services, shops, educational institutions and recreational places will pop up like mushrooms.
If things go well (and they are going well in the above example), a small city/town with only one industry can become a large city with a full spectrum of services and multiple industries.
All booming thanks to the oil industry.
Here is the population curve of Surgut for example:
Climate is relatively harsher, but salaries are great thanks to the fossil fuel industry and the services it requires.
Jobs are plentiful for the people who want to settle there. Long term contracts with resettling allowances are being offered.
And people are coming from all over Russia as well as from Ex-USSR countries such as Ukraine, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan etc.
In a few years, Surgut population will reach half a million.
Same phenomenon is happening in the 2 nearby towns I mentioned.
As populations grow, more and more services, shops, educational institutions and recreational places will pop up like mushrooms.
If things go well (and they are going well in the above example), a small city/town with only one industry can become a large city with a full spectrum of services and multiple industries.
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The funny part : ones who live on the British Islands, can give a statement.
A whole bloody disaster for living.
Norway - just the same.
Sweden - not better.
Finland - close enough ...
If you can jump into a plane, and end up in 4h flight in Sochi, for a week holidays, with your regular salary good enough to grant it ...
Dude!
A whole bloody disaster for living.
Norway - just the same.
Sweden - not better.
Finland - close enough ...
If you can jump into a plane, and end up in 4h flight in Sochi, for a week holidays, with your regular salary good enough to grant it ...
Dude!
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Georg Zachmann
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And since December 22nd Russian exports through Ukraine were reduced again.
PS. Many thanks to @McwilliamsBen
& @GSgaravatti
for their great work, constantly improving and keeping the tracker updated!
Norway historically high, lots of $$$$$$$$$$
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And since December 22nd Russian exports through Ukraine were reduced again.
PS. Many thanks to @McwilliamsBen
& @GSgaravatti
for their great work, constantly improving and keeping the tracker updated!
Norway historically high, lots of $$$$$$$$$$
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It is not news. Russia has fulfilled the contracted 40 billion cubic meters of transit for 2021 and is not obliged to
pump more. That it is not pumping zero is doing the Kiev regime a favour.
pump more. That it is not pumping zero is doing the Kiev regime a favour.
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JohninMK wrote:[i]Georg Zachmann
@GeorgZachmann
Norway historically high, lots of $$$$$$$$$$
Blah blah blah ...
This is what I hate most in the statements like that. They are all agent driven, and targeting your common sense.
It is all bullshit from a wider perspective.
The only reason why Norway is soaring the gas export to Europe is the price hiking.
And I will tell you a secret! They are not even close to the real delivery records.
WOW!
The only reason why "several" LNG tankers were redistributed from the US to the EU, was the fact that EU spot prices for LNG hiked above the Asian ones.
There is no friend or foe. Just business. But talking heads need some bullshit to spread among the sheep - so here it is. Blah blah blah.
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Gazprom commissions 115.5km subsea pipeline across the Gulf of Ob, connects fields in Yamal to the Yamburg-Tula trunk of the Unified Gas Supply System. Now they aren't entirely reliant on the LNG carriers for those fields.
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2021/12/gazproms-new-pipeline-across-gulf-ob-stirs-environmental-concern
https://www.ogj.com/pipelines-transportation/pipelines/article/14222369/gazprom-commissions-20bcmy-novoportovskoye-subsea-gas-pipeline
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/industry-and-energy/2021/12/gazproms-new-pipeline-across-gulf-ob-stirs-environmental-concern
https://www.ogj.com/pipelines-transportation/pipelines/article/14222369/gazprom-commissions-20bcmy-novoportovskoye-subsea-gas-pipeline
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Deputy Prime Minister says Nordstream 2 should be certified in the first half of 2022. We'll see. He might not even fully believe it. He says, "Any demands above current laws are of political nature."
https://tass.com/economy/1382233
https://tass.com/economy/1382233
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Autodestruct wrote:Deputy Prime Minister says Nordstream 2 should be certified in the first half of 2022. We'll see. He might not even fully believe it. He says, "Any demands above current laws are of political nature."
https://tass.com/economy/1382233
That is kinda funny, because there is a second time in my whole living when the legally elected government was told to just shut the **** up.
Because that is how we should translate the Handelsblatt entry here.
Shut the **** up.
Do NOT warm the issues with the Russkies, because you need them to follow your eco agenda.
STFU.
Calm down, step back, and ... just legalize the fucking pipe, for God's sake.
And STFU!
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ALAMO wrote:Autodestruct wrote:Deputy Prime Minister says Nordstream 2 should be certified in the first half of 2022. We'll see. He might not even fully believe it. He says, "Any demands above current laws are of political nature."
https://tass.com/economy/1382233
That is kinda funny, because there is a second time in my whole living when the legally elected government was told to just shut the **** up.
Because that is how we should translate the Handelsblatt entry here.
Shut the **** up.
Do NOT warm the issues with the Russkies, because you need them to follow your eco agenda.
STFU.
Calm down, step back, and ... just legalize the fucking pipe, for God's sake.
And STFU!
It's not just about the business though ALAMO
The Nazis subordinated business to ideology after all. Killing rich and successful Jews was not good business and made little economic sense for Germany. The German bourgeois might have desired to overthrow Hitler before he went on a rampage of conquest, as Trotsky predicted they would - but of course by that time it was too late. Other factors aside, this ideological clique of Nazis had also already handed over a lot of German assets and industry to business people loyal to them. The ones not loyal to them had been marginalized.
And what was it that Mao said. Something about how in a political power struggle, all the capital, bourgeois interests, as well as ideological questions, polemics, etc... all fly out the window. And it just becomes about who comes out on top and asserts power. Something like that.
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And since December 22nd Russian exports through Ukraine were reduced again.
No real surprise in that chart... it essentially shows flow in normal and constant through the existing pipes that bypass Ukraine and eastern europe... north stream and south stream continued pretty normally because there are fewer transit fees on that gas while the pipe going through the Ukraine and the Yamal pipe had reduced flow when volumes were reached and excess flow was no longer needed... which is perfectly sensible... when you need less gas continue to use the cheapest routes and reduce the routes that are more expensive to use.
Not rocket science... basic common sense.
Unlike EU demands for Gazprom to keep pumping gas when there are no orders for gas to be pumped.
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ALAMO wrote:JohninMK wrote:[i]Georg Zachmann
@GeorgZachmann
Norway historically high, lots of $$$$$$$$$$
Blah blah blah ...
This is what I hate most in the statements like that. They are all agent driven, and targeting your common sense.
It is all bullshit from a wider perspective.
The only reason why Norway is soaring the gas export to Europe is the price hiking.
And I will tell you a secret! They are not even close to the real delivery records.
WOW!
The only reason why "several" LNG tankers were redistributed from the US to the EU, was the fact that EU spot prices for LNG hiked above the Asian ones.
There is no friend or foe. Just business. But talking heads need some bullshit to spread among the sheep - so here it is. Blah blah blah.
So you think that I shouldn't post information like that?
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Of course, you should.
It is just a piece of information.
Commenting on that would be useful, too.
It is just a piece of information.
Commenting on that would be useful, too.
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China resumes transportation of liquefied petroleum gas from Russia
According to Russia’s trade mission in China, Manchurian customs also opened access for freight trains with bulk grain and fertilizers
BEIJING, December 30. /TASS/. Chinese railway checkpoint Manchuria on the border with Russia has resumed receiving Russian liquefied petroleum gas since Thursday, which was earlier suspended due to the pandemic, Russia’s trade mission in China said in its Telegram channel.
According to the statement, Manchurian customs also opened access for freight trains with bulk grain and fertilizers supplied from the Russian Federation.
On November 30, Russian Railways suspended accepting goods addressed to Grodekovo-Suifenhe and Zabaikalsk-Manzhouli border crossings, except container shipments. "The decision was made in Chinese border cities of Manzhouli and Suifenhe as part of strengthening measures on prevention and control over the epidemiological situation," the railway operator said. This measure did not affect container shipping.
https://tass.com/economy/1382943
According to Russia’s trade mission in China, Manchurian customs also opened access for freight trains with bulk grain and fertilizers
BEIJING, December 30. /TASS/. Chinese railway checkpoint Manchuria on the border with Russia has resumed receiving Russian liquefied petroleum gas since Thursday, which was earlier suspended due to the pandemic, Russia’s trade mission in China said in its Telegram channel.
According to the statement, Manchurian customs also opened access for freight trains with bulk grain and fertilizers supplied from the Russian Federation.
On November 30, Russian Railways suspended accepting goods addressed to Grodekovo-Suifenhe and Zabaikalsk-Manzhouli border crossings, except container shipments. "The decision was made in Chinese border cities of Manzhouli and Suifenhe as part of strengthening measures on prevention and control over the epidemiological situation," the railway operator said. This measure did not affect container shipping.
https://tass.com/economy/1382943
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You know what ? 
It is a point of no return.
We live in interesting times - as a Chinee are saying ...
It is a point of no return.
We live in interesting times - as a Chinee are saying ...
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https://www.interfax.ru/business/813436
Moscow. December 30th. INTERFAX.RU - On the penultimate working day of the outgoing year, Gazprom managed to withdraw from the jurisdiction of the Netherlands an asset worth at least one billion euros - a 24.98 percent stake in Achim Development LLC (is the operator of the development of the fourth and fifth blocks of the Achimov deposits of the Urengoy oil and gas condensate field ).
On December 29, the stake was re-registered from the Dutch Gazprom Finance BV to the Russian LLC Gazprom Capital, according to the data of the SPARK-Interfax system . And already from January 1, 2022, the agreement on the avoidance of double taxation between the Russian Federation and the Netherlands will expire.
Earlier it was reported that a share in Achim Sbyt JSC (a trading company created by Gazprom and Wintershall Dea within the framework of the project) was also transferred to Gazprom Capital from Gazprom Finance.
Achim Development is the operator of the development of the fourth and fifth blocks of the Achimov deposits of the Urengoyskoye oil and gas condensate field. In addition to Gazprom (50.01% from PJSC Gazprom and 24.98% from Gazprom Capital), Wintershall Dea owns 25.01% in the project.
The Austrian OMV claims a share of 24.98%, negotiations with it have dragged on, now they are continuing on a non-exclusive basis. In mid-2019, the value of the stake was estimated at 905 million euros, but since then the project has undergone significant development, production has already begun at both sites of Achim Development.
In 2021, Russia withdrew from the double taxation agreement with the Netherlands. Following this, Gazprom announced plans to transfer assets from this jurisdiction to the Russian one, as well as the impending re-dominance of companies registered in the Netherlands to Russian special administrative regions.
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Few months old articles about Novatek's future LNG projects on the Gydan peninsula, the Arctic LNG 1 and Arctic LNG 3.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/novateks-arctic-lng-1-project-brief-overview-ben-seligman/
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-do-we-know-novateks-potential-arctic-lng-3-project-ben-seligman/
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/novateks-arctic-lng-1-project-brief-overview-ben-seligman/
Novatek’s Arctic LNG 1 Project – A Brief Overview
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-do-we-know-novateks-potential-arctic-lng-3-project-ben-seligman/
What do we know about Novatek’s potential Arctic LNG 3 Project?
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Novatek giant wharf for building offshore LNG liquefaction platforms, in Murmansk
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https://www.upstreamonline.com/lng/two-chinese-players-finalise-plans-to-import-lng-from-novatek/2-1-1142616
Novatek getting massive LNG contracts completed in China
Novatek getting massive LNG contracts completed in China
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lngindustry.com/liquid-natural-gas/17012022/novatek-and-fortum-agree-on-renewable-power-supply/amp/
PAO NOVATEK announced that its joint venture Cryogas-Vysotsk signed a power purchase agreement for renewable electricity produced by the European energy company Fortum in Russia (the ‘Agreement’). The Agreement builds on the cooperation of NOVATEK and Fortum under the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) that the Parties signed at the Saint-Petersburg International Economic Forum in June 2021.
PAO NOVATEK announced that its joint venture Cryogas-Vysotsk signed a power purchase agreement for renewable electricity produced by the European energy company Fortum in Russia (the ‘Agreement’). The Agreement builds on the cooperation of NOVATEK and Fortum under the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) that the Parties signed at the Saint-Petersburg International Economic Forum in June 2021.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hydrocarbonengineering.com/refining/17012022/lukoil-selects-lummus-ether-and-alkylation-technologies/amp/
Lummus Technology has been awarded a contract from LUKOIL Permnefteorgsintez for a new integrated methyl tertiary butyl ether (MTBE) and alkylation plant at LUKOIL's refinery in Perm, Russia.
Euros should not cooperate with Russia, but anything goes in Texas
Lummus Technology has been awarded a contract from LUKOIL Permnefteorgsintez for a new integrated methyl tertiary butyl ether (MTBE) and alkylation plant at LUKOIL's refinery in Perm, Russia.
Euros should not cooperate with Russia, but anything goes in Texas
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Are these announcements all about Russia increasing its presence up the value chain?
Why sell gas and let someone else extract the value still in it?
Why sell gas and let someone else extract the value still in it?
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Novatek giant wharf for building offshore LNG liquefaction platforms, in Murmansk wrote:
I wonder what they will build there when these LNG platforms are finished?