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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:18 am

    Mexico is in terminal decline. Its prime field, the one in the Chicxulub crater is over the hill for years already. It is not replacing
    any of its reserves. Canada's shtick is the tar sands which are all hat and no cattle. The US "shale oil" is a flash in the pan
    as well.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:04 am

    Canadian "oil" is really a slurry of bitumen. Useless until it hits a refinery tooled up with cat crackers for handling heavy crude grades.

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    Post  owais.usmani Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:20 am

    https://www.gazprom-neft.com/press-center/news/gazprom_neft_delivers_10_fold_growth_of_net_profit_for_9m_2021/

    Gazprom neft delivers 10-fold growth of net profit for 9m 2021

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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:01 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Canadian "oil" is really a slurry of bitumen.  Useless until it hits a refinery tooled up with cat crackers for handling heavy crude grades.

    It is like liquid coal but somewhat more useful since it can by "upgraded" to synthetic oil via hydrogenation.   This industrial process makes tar
    sands oil much more expensive than conventional oil and leaves vast pools of acidic toxic waste that is spewing carcinogenic VOCs on the
    surrounding countryside.  Conversion of bitumen sands to synthetic oil also leaves slag.  

    Venezuela's tar sands deposits are somewhat more useful since it can produce Orimulsion from the lower viscosity grades found in the
    Orinoco basin.  This can be burned by marine diesels directly.   The added water "upgrades" the bitumen in the cylinders during combustion.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:17 pm

    The clown show continues... clown

    Nord Stream 2 cannot be certified – Berlin

    Germany’s new foreign minister, Annalena Baerbock, has said the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline from Russia can’t be launched yet because it doesn’t meet EU energy requirements and “safety” concerns are outstanding.
    Baerbock, a Green politician who assumed her role in the Foreign Ministry this week, discussed the fate of the multinational project in an interview with the broadcaster ZDF on Sunday. She insisted it still hadn’t met all that was required for it to be certified.

    “As things stand at the moment, this pipeline cannot be approved because it does not meet the requirements of European energy law, and the safety issues are still on the table,” she said.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/542998-nord-stream-germany-certification/

    So now its "safety issues"??? It would be hilarious if it wasn't so fecking absurd.

    Enjoy yer long cold dark winter, you arrogant kraut idiots.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:41 pm

    And it was Germany who demanded for this pipeline when Russia wasn't interested in it. And they also gave promise that there won't be hurdles.

    At this point Russia should divert it to kaliningrad as Garry has suggested and tell the Germans if they want gas, they buy now at current market prices for LNG or Germany can freeze.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:46 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:The clown show continues...  clown

    So now its "safety issues"???  It would be hilarious if it wasn't so fecking absurd.

    Enjoy yer long cold dark winter, you arrogant kraut idiots.

    Watch the Green Party popularity plunge with the falling temperatures of winter.

    As those pesky Russians are saying, we don't need it, you are paying us all we need via those lovely spot prices. Top marks for Hungary I'd say.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:55 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:And it was Germany who demanded for this pipeline when Russia wasn't interested in it. And they also gave promise that there won't be hurdles.

    At this point Russia should divert it to kaliningrad as Garry has suggested and tell the Germans if they want gas, they buy now at current market prices for LNG or Germany can freeze.

    And Russia invested billions worth of USD to this pipeline.
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:56 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:And it was Germany who demanded for this pipeline when Russia wasn't interested in it. And they also gave promise that there won't be hurdles.

    At this point Russia should divert it to kaliningrad as Garry has suggested and tell the Germans if they want gas, they buy now at current market prices for LNG or Germany can freeze.

    And Russia invested billions worth of USD to this pipeline.

    From Germany mind you. German money regardless.

    But you are too dumb to k own this. As was pointed out by others in the Ukraine thread.

    BTW, you and that other account show up exact same time to spew same stupidity. I wonder why....
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:58 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:And it was Germany who demanded for this pipeline when Russia wasn't interested in it. And they also gave promise that there won't be hurdles.

    At this point Russia should divert it to kaliningrad as Garry has suggested and tell the Germans if they want gas, they buy now at current market prices for LNG or Germany can freeze.

    And Russia invested billions worth of USD to this pipeline.

    From Germany mind you.  German money regardless.

    But you are too dumb to k own this. As was pointed out by others in the Ukraine thread.

    BTW, you and that other account show up exact same time to spew same stupidity. I wonder why....

    No, Russia's share of Nord Stream II is more than half. Money came from Russia, not from Germany.
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:00 pm

    You and atlasclub.  Surprised I didn't put you on ignore earlier.

    Here is LMFS saying it well against your alt account:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t8520p775-the-situation-in-the-ukraine-30#348967
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    Post  LMFS Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:02 pm

    Germans should really think what to do with such blatant traitors as this Baerbock hack. She is directly reading from a US script and not even making the effort to hide it, the whole German industry needs NS2 and they are most probably not going to tolerate such direct sabotage. Of all possible positions, they gave her the Foreign Ministry, so she could properly interfere with Russia for them, regardless of her being an absolute zero in that field and the ministry having almost nothing to do with "ecology". Good luck forcing the Energy Package on the Russians via the suicide threat you clowns....

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:09 pm

    LMFS wrote:Germans should really think what to do with such blatant traitors as this Baerbock hack. She is directly reading from a US script and not even making the effort to hide it, the whole German industry needs NS2 and they are most probably not going to tolerate such direct sabotage. Of all possible positions, they gave her the Foreign Ministry, so she could properly interfere with Russia for them, regardless of her being an absolute zero in that field and the ministry having almost nothing to do with "ecology". Good luck forcing the Energy Package on the Russians via the suicide threat you clowns....

    The children have to learn that what Big Daddy tells them to do may not be in their best interests. All part of growing up but when their childhood has lasted since 1945 and BD controls the cash machine network (SWIFT) it can be difficult breaking away.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:57 pm

    You should consider that as internally driven.
    The new "coalition" pact has 170 pages and was signed after about a year of pole dancing.
    Half of the German political scene has its arses torn apart at the moment, and the whole "stability" hangs on a hair.
    As someone said in the Ukrainian thread, just sit, wait and watch how Die Gruene will start to jump to their own music when the winter will really strike.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:12 am

    LMFS wrote:Germans should really think what to do with such blatant traitors as this Baerbock hack. She is directly reading from a US script and not even making the effort to hide it, the whole German industry needs NS2 and they are most probably not going to tolerate such direct sabotage. Of all possible positions, they gave her the Foreign Ministry, so she could properly interfere with Russia for them, regardless of her being an absolute zero in that field and the ministry having almost nothing to do with "ecology". Good luck forcing the Energy Package on the Russians via the suicide threat you clowns....

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    Germany doesn't need Nord Stream II. Russia will deliver all the gas needed via Ukraine and Poland anyway.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:34 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:And it was Germany who demanded for this pipeline when Russia wasn't interested in it. And they also gave promise that there won't be hurdles.

    At this point Russia should divert it to kaliningrad as Garry has suggested and tell the Germans if they want gas, they buy now at current market prices for LNG or Germany can freeze.

    And Russia invested billions worth of USD to this pipeline.

    From Germany mind you.  German money regardless.

    But you are too dumb to k own this. As was pointed out by others in the Ukraine thread.

    BTW, you and that other account show up exact same time to spew same stupidity. I wonder why....

    No, Russia's share of Nord Stream II is more than half. Money came from Russia, not from Germany.

    Russia already recouped its share of the investment from high energy prices

    Had the pipeline already been in operation, the prices would have been lower and its costs would not have been recovered yet

    So yeah. Of course the prices will not be high forever and should not be high forever. But the rest is up to Germany. I doubt Russia has any more patience for this whole affair, pipeline's finished, money has been made on the back of its non-operation, so let the EU decide what games it wants to play by itself next, Moscow will take no part in any case.

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:10 am

    All of NATzO policy pivots on the delusion that Russia needs western gas money to function. This is the old "the USSR needs hard
    currency to buy wheat and to subsist" BS repackaged. It stems from the deep anti-Russian, racist mentality of the west. The
    never ending drang nach osten of the insane crusaders.

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    Post  TMA1 Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:31 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:
    LMFS wrote:Germans should really think what to do with such blatant traitors as this Baerbock hack. She is directly reading from a US script and not even making the effort to hide it, the whole German industry needs NS2 and they are most probably not going to tolerate such direct sabotage. Of all possible positions, they gave her the Foreign Ministry, so she could properly interfere with Russia for them, regardless of her being an absolute zero in that field and the ministry having almost nothing to do with "ecology". Good luck forcing the Energy Package on the Russians via the suicide threat you clowns....

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    Germany doesn't need Nord Stream II. Russia will deliver all the gas needed via Ukraine and Poland anyway.

    Nah the Russians can cut off their natural gas pipelines to the west thru Ukraine entirely and tell them they will not get a vapor of natural gas until the NS2 pipeline is open.
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    Post  Krepost Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:55 am

    Very simple:
    No NS2 = higher gas prices
    Live with it.

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    Post  Rasisuki Nebia Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:06 am

    German power price explodes to over 200 euros per MWh
    no nuclear, no coal and the only gas is LGBT gas  Neutral  winter is looking arctic cold  Smile
    "Germany doesn't need NS2"
    Any minute now Very Happy

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    Post  Krepost Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:15 am

    Let me put it in another simple way:

    Let NS2 operate = more gas sold (at a reasonable price) : Russia Happy
    Stop NS2 = less gas sold (at a higher price) : Russia Happy

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:33 am

    Germany is infested with the green brain rot disease.   It shut down its nuclear power plants because of a tsunami in Japan.   Marvel
    at the inanity.   BTW, Fukushima would have never happened if the super duper high tech Japanese were not a bunch of copy-tard
    monkeys by placing the backup generator room (for the operation of the reactor cooling system) in the basement as in the original
    US reactor plant design.   You know, tsunami flooding risk zone sort of necessitates an adjustment to the plant layout.   They had
    a nice hill right by the plant on which to build the generator room and run some cables.   The 2011 earthquake did no significant
    damage, the whole disaster was due to the failure of the backup generators by flooding.

    It looks increasingly like U-rope shares the same collective mental disorder as the Ukrs and the Polaks.  The compulsion to foam
    at the mouth with hate at Russia at their own expense.   Listen to the clowns from Kiev, to Warsaw, to Berlin, to Paris, etc.  
    They spout the same inane shit based on hate projection.   I see various "pundits" talk about Russia invading one country after
    another.   The retardation is breathtaking.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:59 am

    Well, Germany is sort of a victim here.
    Antinuclear agenda was sponsored there for decades, with the cash flowing from SU directly.
    Germans were supposed to oppose keeping the nuclear weapon on it's soil.
    As they could not do it openly, and address the matter openly - a whole stream of hysteria was created.
    They could not oppose the weapon directly, so back in the 60s all the green and eco movements were used for that matter.
    SU ceased to exist, but ... not the cash flow.
    Why?
    Well, Germany back in the 90s was standing at the edge of needed decisions, how to proceed with the matter.
    And as those were the times of the Maastricht treaty, the logical next step would be creating of the pan-European nuclear agency.
    Who owned the technology&know-how back then?
    Well ... France Twisted Evil
    No, not the British troyan donkey.
    Wanna guess, whose $ were pumped there, to keep the hysteria living, only redirected? Twisted Evil
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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:06 am

    Nuclear weapons and nuclear power plants are not related. The anti-nuclear power hysteria has nothing to do with the USSR.
    It is a purely American brainwashing campaign. Hollywood was producing fear shlock in the 1970s and the anti-nuclear "movement"
    integrated with environmentalism. The boogieman was the mislabeled "nuclear waste". Our precious blue marble was going to
    be contaminated by nuclear waste for billions of years. God, the retards.

    The anti-nuclear weapons movement rested on the residual sanity in the west which has now completely disappeared. People
    were rightfully worried about a nuclear war. Now we are closer to a nuclear war than ever before (including the insane 1950s)
    and westerners are obsessed with genitalia.

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    Post  Autodestruct Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:25 am

    Russia will deliver all the gas needed via Ukraine and Poland anyway.

    For a little while, yes. How much maintenance do you think is being done on those very old pipelines? The Russians have been extending contracts on them to get the last bit of existing life out of them, but they've been running a "retire in place" plan for years now. There have been and will be no major overhauls.

    I think Russia can afford to wait Germany out here. The need is coming, and it will be undeniable.

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