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    Post  flamming_python Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:05 am

    kvs wrote:

    The German business newspaper Handelsblatt is suggesting to Gazprom to forcefully ship gas through NS2 and pay the
    EU a daily fine.   This demonstrates conclusively how detached from reality western (EU-tard) perceptions of Russia
    are.   They think that Gazprom is so desperate to sell to them, that it will pay fines to do so.

    Handelsblatt thinks it can trick Gazprom into exposing itself to lawsuits from Polish and Ukrian gas companies that
    are part of the NS2 "certification" process.    No, asswipes, you will be freezing in the dark before Russia eats
    your shit.


    Russia will pay a backlog of fines only if the pipeline fails certification. Russia is in fact free to start shipping gas any time it wants and won't be fined for it as the pipeline has neither been approved nor rejected at the moment.
    The Germans are hinting to Russia that the scenario of the pipeline failing certification is not on the table

    However Russia has no need to take any such risks anyway, who knows what can happen, and Gazprom has plenty of profit at the moment already.
    No, I don't think there's any need to take any shortcuts or go around the EU's procedures, which they drew up themselves. Whenever they're ready to approve and certify the pipeline, is fine for Gazprom I suspect Cool
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    Post  kvs Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:07 am

    Try doing anything without a permit and see how far you get. Gazprom is not going to get a free ride by pumping without
    certification. This whole suggestion is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to have the cake and eat it too. The
    bootlick Germans do not want to just certify NS2 and finish the affair, they need to please their owners in Washington.
    The only reason that NS2 was completed was because Russia did it by itself and NATzO had no way to spin any disruption
    in its propaganda factory MSM. So the Germans are sabotaging it post factum even though they are the ones that
    begged for this project.

    Russia should not allow itself to be held hostage in any German factional fighting. Germany has been stabbing Russia in
    the back at every opportunity in the last 30 years. They are better at playing the game than the idiot Poles and Baltics
    inadequates, but they are still Washington's poodles.

    Let them freeze and look for gas elsewhere. Charity will not bring any benefits for Russia and instead will give these
    enemies the notion that Russia is weak and stupid.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:19 am

    US Court of Appeal dismisses ex-Yukos shareholders’ case

    https://tass.com/world/1369579

    WASHINGTON, December 2. /TASS/. The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia decided to dismiss a case by former Yukos shareholders trying to overrule a lower court’s decision to uphold Moscow’s November 2020 motion to suspend a trial in which the former shareholders tried to recover $50 bln from Russia.

    In mid-November, the former shareholders of Yukos asked the court to dismiss their appeal in connection with the ruling of the Supreme Court of the Netherlands, which overturned the decision to collect $50 bln from Russia in their favor. Their petition stated that both parties agreed to terminate the case, determining the procedure for paying for the costs. One of the reasons for voluntary refusing the appeal was the decision of the Supreme Court of the Netherlands, which on November 5 satisfied the cassation appeal of the Russian Federation and canceled the ruling of the Hague Court of Appeal from February 18, 2020. This ruling briefly restored the 2014 arbitration decisions to recover from the Russian Federation $50 bln in favor of former majority shareholders of Yukos.

    Sound like the Yukostanis gave up this appeal, probably as they know they couldn't possibly win (cuz their case has zero legal merit) and they didn't want to throw yet more money down the drain. I wonder how long these grotesque scoundrels, liars and thieves will keep going with this nonsense gambit??. It should be obvious to even Blind Pew that the oligarchs behind this won't receive a single rusty kopek from Russia. Whoever is financing their idiocy is gonna get cleaned out Razz

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    Post  owais.usmani Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:49 pm

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/llewellynking/2021/11/27/how-europe-triggered-an-energy-crisis-and-now-is-paying-dearly-for-it/?sh=4734a5931290

    How Europe Triggered An Energy Crisis, And Now Is Paying Dearly For It



    Murphy’s law states, “Whatever can go wrong, will go wrong.” A theatrical adage takes another view, “It will be alright on the night.”

    Europe has taken the second adage as its natural gas supply position, and it isn’t going well. European countries bet that natural gas spot prices would be low and that they could pick and choose and contain any commercial bad manners from supplier Russia with their combined market power. In short, “alright on the night.”

    But Murphy’s law has prevailed.

    Now Europe, from the Mediterranean Sea to the Arctic Circle, is wondering how it could all have gone so wrong so quickly and why European countries are facing the highest prices for gas and electricity in history, leading to economic damage, and possible blackouts and frozen homes and businesses this winter.

    The temptation is to blame Russia for manipulating or, as some say, weaponizing the supply of gas to Europe. But didn’t Europe know what would happen? Russia isn’t known as a benevolent nation.

    If Russia is to blame — which prima facie appears to be the case, as Europe gets fully half its natural gas from Russia — then the Europeans are to blame too. The gas buyers of Europe and their political masters bet that Russia needed their market more than they needed Russia’s gas.

    It was a gamble and Europe lost. Russia won and has been cutting flows of gas into Europe, sometimes by two-thirds; then, capriciously, increasing them after the damage was done — increasing them to keep the markets see-sawing and prices and the future unsteady.

    At the heart of that bad bet was the belief of many gas buyers that they could do better in the spot market than they could if bound to long-term, fixed contracts, some of them take-or-pay. Now the buyers who have long-term, fixed contracts are safe but worry if their suppliers will call force majeure and cut supplies.

    So far, I am told in extensive telephone calls with traders, facilitators, lawyers, and an expert on global energy and diplomacy, that fixed contracts are holding firm. Even Gazprom, Russia’s giant energy company, needs to have some security in its gas exports.

    Here are the elements of the energy crisis, which began in Europe but is buffeting the rest of the gas-dependent world.

    First, world economic activity bounced back from its forced hibernation as a result of Covid-19 with more vigor than expected. From Brazil to China, factories and commercial activity boomed, increasing electricity demand and concurrently natural gas demand.

    Then Europe suffered a wind drought. For most of the summer and the fall, wind speeds have been at some of the lowest levels for the past 60 years.

    European Grid Destabilized
    This has brought the stability of the European grid, with its growing wind dependence, into question and has been particularly damaging in the United Kingdom. There, where it was an act of faith that its offshore wind farms were dependable. But starting in April, the wind gave out, even in the North Sea — its gales transformed into zephyrs.

    All this pointed up that the UK’s energy policy has been in chaos for decades. New nuclear has been delayed, and there was never much natural gas storage built in the UK, partly due to confidence in the spot market and the reliability of wind power. “They were caught at the end of the Russian pipeline,” one London trader told me.

    At the other end of the scale, Malta (population about 540,000) in the Mediterranean has been an example of how a liquefied natural gas (LNG)-to-power and hedging strategy can avoid chaos and price spikes.

    Malta doesn’t have much land for wind farms or utility-scale solar. When it decided to switch from heavy fuel oil to natural gas to fuel its power stations in 2013 (implemented in 2017), it realized that it needed to do a thorough examination of the perils of life as a gas-dependent nation.

    The small island-state demanded a five-year, fixed-price for electricity and natural gas – the key was a fixed-supply contract with the State Oil Company of the Azerbaijan Republic (SOCAR), although none of the contracted gas comes from Azerbaijan. As a result, according to a source familiar with Maltese energy affairs, the island isn’t emitting 2 million tons of carbon annually at today’s price of 120 million euros a year. The source attributes this carbon emissions reduction to the 2013 set contract price for LNG.

    Dorian Ducka, Albania’s former deputy minister of energy and industry, now an international energy consultant, says that Malta is in a better position than other EU islands which haven’t switched to gas. He singled out Spain’s Canary Islands for which, he says, LNG would have been a natural conversion. At present, power generators in the Canaries are emitting substantial carbon and particulate matter into the atmosphere and have some of the highest electricity prices in Europe.

    The wind shortage this fall has unnerved Europe. Suddenly, gas is seen as vital to the future, not as a resource on the way out the door because of its climate-change impact.

    Across Europe, renewables have lost ground in public acceptance as fuel bills have gone up and winter approaches. Nuclear is getting a fresh look, and France has already committed to boost it.

    Last winter was particularly severe across Europe, which led to a larger drawdown in gas reserves than normal. While this winter is predicted to be less severe, already prices for gas, which are four times what they were in March, will make for a hard winter for many.

    U.S. Role in European Crisis
    The United States has also played a role in the European energy crisis. When President Donald Trump trashed the Iran nuclear deal, signed in 2015 by the United States, Iran, China, Russia, the UK, France, and Germany, and reimposed sanctions, anticipated Iranian gas didn’t flow into Europe.

    Likewise, long U.S. opposition to Nord Stream 2 affected certification of the Russia-to-Germany pipeline. In May, the Biden administration reversed policy and waived its objections. The pipeline is now finished and awaits German certification — now in doubt with a new, greener government in Germany. Russia may choose to force that issue.

    China has become a voracious consumer of global gas supply and much gas that would have gone to Europe has been diverted to the Asian market. The message from the Chinese government has been than gas should be secured at any price to keep China’s industry humming.

    This flood of Chinese demand hadn’t been anticipated by world gas traders. They have responded by diverting LNG to Asia — gas that would otherwise have been sold on the sport market in Europe.

    Spain has unexpectedly come into the LNG market because of a dispute between Algeria and Morocco, through which the Maghreb-Europe pipeline runs. That pipeline is shut down: a geopolitical event that no one expected, and one that has added to the pressure on natural gas.

    Just recently, Russia increased its gas flow in some pipelines, further roiling Euro markets. The heart of Russia’s unhappiness is its desire to reduce Ukraine’s role as a gas shipment point into the rest of Europe and the delay of Nord Stream 2.

    Europe has bet wrongly on the spot market, Russia, and the wind. Just about everything that could go wrong, has gone wrong.
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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:58 pm

    A piece full of BS.

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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:06 pm



    cry cry cry

    Poor Ukr babies are crying that Russia is not negotiating a new gas transit deal with them. They say that they are in talks with
    the Americans and the Germans but Russia is ignoring them.

    clown clown clown

    Also, poor Ukria cannot veto the certification of Nord Stream II. Oh, the humanity!

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:59 pm

    kvs wrote:

    cry cry cry

    Poor Ukr babies are crying that Russia is not negotiating a new gas transit deal with them.   They say that they are in talks with
    the Americans and the Germans but Russia is ignoring them.  

    clown clown clown

    Also, poor Ukria cannot veto the certification of Nord Stream II.   Oh, the humanity!


    Russia and Putin will most likely eventually cave in as they always do.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:23 am

    How Europe Triggered An Energy Crisis, And Now Is Paying Dearly For It

    That article is terrible, and basically paints Russia as the aggressor... why didn't they stop Europe from making such stupid and obvious errors.

    Love the hint that Russia is selling gas on the Asian market because there is more money to be made there, but total silence about Europes saviour... EU didn't need Russian gas because US freedom gas can save them... except US freedom gas is nowhere to be seen because it is all going to the Asian market too...

    So the US can screw the EU and not a word, but Russia can ask for long term contracts but the EU knows better, but somehow it is Russias fault.

    As mentioned in the article, the EU thought Russia needed them as a market and therefore they could throw their weight around and bully Russia and get the best of both worlds... wind and solar power reducing their need for gas so they can pick and choose gas prices at auction when it is cheaper than the long term price rates and they can put it in storage and basically **** Russia over by always paying for super cheap discounted gas but when the price went up they could always buy gas from the US so they don't even need Russian gas to begin with.

    The EU has been acting like total censored and at the same time blaming Russia for all their problems and mistakes, while Russia has actually bent over backwards jumping through hoops covering their arses to keep the price down so it is affordable for european customers (not countries, but actual end of the line users in the factories and homes). The EU has done everything to screw Russia over prices and have ended up screwing themselves.

    Some here say Putin will still be nice and of course he will because he wants them to keep buying gas and at current prices they probably can't afford it.

    That does not help Russia or the EU.

    You can call Russia weak but that is just common sense... when you have a markup on a product that makes the product five times more expensive then people will just adapt to other products and you wont make the enormous profits you think you will.

    The obvious only exception would be life saving drugs where there is a patent... the CEO of a big Pharma company raises the price of life saving medication because he wants his share holders to make money... he doesn't care about the poor people who can't afford it and have no insurance... he cares about the people with insurance who can pay...

    Welcome to the western world...

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:00 pm

    December talks of OPEC+ countries ended and the OPEC Secretariat confirmed in its communique that OPEC+ member-states will continue increasing oil production by 400,000 barrels per day.

    All the countries agreed to proceed with oil production recovery in January 2022 by 400,000 barrels per day, according to the communique posted on the OPEC’s website. The plan to compensate overproduction of oil is extended until June of the next year.

    The next meeting of OPEC+ countries will be on January 4, 2022.

    Russia and Saudi Arabia will be able to increase oil production in January by 109,000 barrels per day each to 10.122 mln barrels daily.


    https://geopolitics.news/euroasia/russia-to-scale-up-oil-production-by-109000-barrels-per-day-in-january-2022/

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:36 pm

    https://news.in-24.com/news/338021.html

    Despite Total, France prohibits its banks from investing in the Russian liquefied gas gigantic plant

    But this French boycott seems far from enough to stop the bandwagon because the Arctic LNG-2 project has
    obtained nearly 10 billion euros in financing from a number of international banks, half of which are Russian,
    according to an announcement posted Tuesday.

    NATzO is sanctioning Russia at every turn. So all the threats over Ukraine are pure BS. NATzO blew its wad already.

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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:23 am

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/gas-price-windfall-makes-gazprom-patient-over-nord-stream-2-delay-2021-12-03/

    Gas price windfall makes Gazprom patient over Nord Stream 2 delay



    MOSCOW, Dec 3 (Reuters) - Windfall revenues from high European gas prices mean Russia's Gazprom (GAZP.MM) will not start pumping gas through the Nord Stream 2 pipeline before certification and it will not press Germany to speed up the process, two sources said.

    Pumping gas without the German approval would only incur a modest fine, but as Germany gets new political leadership and Russia's ties with the West are severely strained, a source at Gazprom said it was content to wait.

    "We don't want to seek faster approval for the pipeline. Now it's Germany that is in charge," the source said on condition of anonymity.

    The same source said that Gazprom, Russia's biggest tax payer, and the Kremlin were also keen to understand how ties with Germany's new government would evolve after the departure of Angela Merkel, who supported Nord Stream 2.

    The Kremlin has said publicly it does not view as political the certification process, understands it is complex and that Russia must be patient.

    The second source said Gazprom was "feeling great" and expected next year's gas market to remain as short of gas as it is now, keeping prices high. Gazprom's additional supplies were not yet onstream, the source said.

    INFLATIONARY PRESSURES

    Elevated electricity costs have forced some industries to curtail production and European consumers are paying more for home heating as winter approaches, adding to wider inflationary pressures.

    The Russian gas export pipeline monopoly, which supplies 35% of European needs, says it is meeting contracted commitments - which top European clients have confirmed to Reuters.

    But European politicians, under pressure from consumers who face a jump in winter heating bills, say Russia could supply more and is using gas prices as leverage in a dispute over the Gazprom-backed Nord Stream 2.

    Gazprom, which declined to comment on Nord Stream 2, on Monday reported an all-time high quarterly net profit of 582 billion roubles ($8 billion) for the July-September quarter, reflecting high natural gas prices. It said it expected even higher earnings in coming months.

    The pipeline, which will double Russian gas export capacities to Europe via the Baltic Sea, is fiercely opposed by Ukraine, which stands to lose lucrative transit fees, and by many Western politicians who say Moscow uses energy as a political weapon, something it denies.

    Russia finished building the pipeline in September and filled one of its two lines with gas in expectation of approval from Germany.

    But the regulator said in November it was suspending the certification process because the Swiss-based consortium behind the project needed to form a company under German law to get an operating licence.

    The suspension could delay the start of operations until March next year, sources have said.

    A Gazprom official told a conference call on Monday that the pipeline's operating company, Nord Stream 2 AG, has been in close contacts with the Germany's regulator but declined to provide timing for when deliveries could start.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:10 am

    So, from that it looks like Russia has just compounded the disastrous EU decisions.

    First the EU bet on the spot market and got caught in the price explosion. Then they tried to get concessions for opening NS2 'early' after imposing bureaucratic delays. Only to find that the gas profit boost that they gifted to Gazprom in their first strategy contained the ruins of their second.

    As a Brit, I'd deploy a bit of our humour and just say that it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people Laughing

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:46 pm

    That Reuters "article" shows the inanity of the western fake stream media and the narratives it pushes. Why should
    Gazprom force its gas through NS2 before certification under any circumstances? Since these propagandists can't
    come up with a legal reason for Gazprom to ship more gas, they contrive an illegal one. Gazprom is supposed to break
    the law and pay fines to deliver gas to EU-tards. Hilarious.

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:37 pm



    EU-f*cktards are pushing the envelope of their retardation and are trying to expropriate Gazprom's natural gas storage
    facilities on EU-tardia's territory.   Well now, that will teach Gazprom and Putler who's boss.

    Gazprom needs to act fast and deplete those storage facilities by shutting down transit gas from Russia.   It will
    still fulfill its contract obligations (not that this matters anymore when dealing with f*cktards) but it will not let
    these f*ckers steal the stored gas.   I am quite sure that this is their "cunning plan".

    One of the EU-f*cktards openly describes Russia as "Asian supplier". This is racist drivel along the lines of Truman
    who sneered at Russians as "those Asiatics". Western white trash takes the cake for f*cktardia.

    Time for Russia to stop sucking western cock.   This expropriation would be more than sufficient grounds to declare
    force majeur and to tear up contracts with EU-f*cktardia.   Let's see these congenital losers throw up some more
    windmills and get some of that precious, precious US LNG.

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    Post  Hole Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:18 pm

    I don´t see this as rassist. Russia is part of Asia. Just like Europe, a f...ing small appendix of the asian continent.

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:24 pm

    Hole wrote:I don´t see this as rassist. Russia is part of Asia. Just like Europe, a f...ing small appendix of the asian continent.

    I disagree. The gas is not coming from Asia.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:40 am

    So France is preventing its banks from investing in Russian gas, which due to current issues is making record profits... I bet those French banks are pissed off... they could be making serious money...

    What sort of idiot would expect Gazprom to break the rules and get fined sending gas down the pipeline before it is certified... Gazprom doesn't need the gas supply... it is Germany that needs it, if they want it faster then certify the pipes faster otherwise not Gazproms problem.

    As a Brit, I'd deploy a bit of our humour and just say that it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people

    The very idea they dug their own hole and now expect Gazprom to get dirty and lift them out of the hole and get bitten with fines for lifting them out before health and safety has said it was safe... it sounds like a comedy of idiots.

    Since these propagandists can't
    come up with a legal reason for Gazprom to ship more gas, they contrive an illegal one. Gazprom is supposed to break
    the law and pay fines to deliver gas to EU-tards. Hilarious.

    Essentially they want Gazprom to break EU rules to fix a mistake they themselves have made... no suggestion of waiving the fine either so they want them to send cheap gas to help them out and make them pay a fine for the privilege... it sounds absurd... it is absurd... and Gazprom is currently enjoying record profits because of their incompetence.

    When they get around to certifying the pipes there is plenty of pipe capacity to send gas to Europe, there is no question of shortages... the only question is how much are they prepared to pay for the gas that is sent.

    Anyone suggesting that Europe will freeze is being melodramatic.... they will just need to bite the bullet and spend the money on the gas they need and write it off as their own damn fault.

    If they sign long term contracts then Gazprom might give them a rather good price, but not a great price.


    One of the EU-f*cktards openly describes Russia as "Asian supplier". This is racist drivel along the lines of Truman
    who sneered at Russians as "those Asiatics". Western white trash takes the cake for f*cktardia.

    It is a reality perhaps Russia should come to embrace... Russia is not dirty and backstabbing and its ability to lie and cheat is really substandard in European terms... perhaps they are more asian... the west has forgotten what honour is.

    Seizing Russian gas from storage sites should lead to charging for said gas volumes at current rates, plus a fine for illegal seizure.

    I disagree. The gas is not coming from Asia.

    If they keep pulling this shit I can see it all going to Asia... and also Africa by ship.

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    Post  owais.usmani Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:19 pm

    https://tass.com/economy/1371839

    MOSCOW, December 7. /TASS/. Russia’s government is considering the issue of the possibility of Rosneft’s pipeline gas supplies to Europe, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Tuesday.

    "Indeed, the issue is under consideration at the government," Peskov said, adding that "it is a work assignment," and that he cannot say anything about the terms defined in the president’s assignments on that matter.

    Russian Energy Minister Nikolai Shulginov told TASS earlier that the decision on granting the right to export 10 bln cubic meters of gas through concluding an agent agreement with Gazprom to Rosneft had not been taken, adding that the ministry itself welcomed the idea.

    According to the Russian legislation, only Gazprom has the right to export pipeline gas. Earlier, Rosneft together with Novatek managed to get the monopoly on export of liquified natural gas lifted, though the monopoly on export of pipeline gas still exists.

    In June 2017 Rosneft and BP signed an agreement on cooperation in the gas sector, under which Rosneft and BP Gas Marketing Limited (BP subsidiary) plan to enter into an agreement on sale and purchase of gas produced by Rosneft to ensure additional deliveries of the Russian gas to European markets. The CEO of BP Bob Dudley then told TASS that the company would be ready to purchase gas from Rosneft after necessary permission was obtained from the Russian authorities.
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    Post  Hole Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:52 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Hole wrote:I don´t see this as rassist. Russia is part of Asia. Just like Europe, a f...ing small appendix of the asian continent.

    I disagree.  The gas is not coming from Asia.


    Europe is only called a continent because the "Europeans" think that they are above all others. In reality it should be called western asia.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:08 am

    Or perhaps Asia Minor.... Twisted Evil

    I mean if the Middle East is half way between Asia and what Europeans call Europe, then west Asia is what they are...

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:44 pm

    And not just crude but lots of refined products. Sanctions that blow back on the US we look on with disbelief.

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    Post  Scorpius Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:17 pm

    Slavneft-Krasnoyarsk Oil Company has opened a new Madrinskaya 1-1 oil deposit on the Northeastern section of the Tersko-Kamovsky block. As a result of testing the well in the deposits of the carbonate riphean, an oil inflow with a flow rate of 16.5 m3/day was obtained. The increase in oil reserves in the B1+B2 category of more than 10 million tons has been accepted by the State Commission on Reserves and will be included in the state balance sheet.

    The discovery of the new Madrid 1-1 deposit significantly increases the prospects for industrial development of the entire site. The northeastern section of the Tersko-Kamovsky block belongs to the Yurubcheno-Tokhoma oil and gas accumulation zone. The initial recoverable reserves of oil and condensate of the site in categories B1+B2 amount to 190 million tons. In the next three years, large-scale pilot works are planned on the site with the construction of five bush sites. Successful exploration works allow to increase the resource base of the asset and involve new reserves in development.
    https://www.rosneft.ru/press/news/item/208787/

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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:00 pm

    This is good news but the amounts are tiny. Russia produces around 10 million barrels per day. So 190 million tons is
    190 x 7.5 / 10 = 142.5 days of oil production. Global oil discoveries are diminishing to irrelevant amounts over time.
    The good old days were back in the 1960s. Those peaks are never coming back in spite of all the drivel about vast
    undersea deposits. These people should look at the rock formation maps: you do not find oil in metamorphosed sedimentary
    rock such as the Arctic basin outside from some near shore regions such as off the coast of Siberia where the rock is
    sedimentary. The much talked up igneous rock deposit near Vietnam is due to migration from a nearby sedimentary
    source formation.

    The fact that fossil fuels are depleting is a good reason for Russia not to over-produce and sell for low prices. There
    will be demand for oil and gas as long as there is a global economy. Windmills and solar panel farms are not going to
    make this demand go away. Western attempts to regulate it away will fail as well given that the economic weight of
    the west in the global economy is shrinking fast.



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    Post  JohninMK Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:27 pm

    Canada, the largest, is off the chart.

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    Post  franco Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:09 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Canada, the largest, is off the chart.

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    Canada has to sale to the USA all oil not processed for domestic use.

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