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    Russophobia, Common Lies-Nonsense on Russia

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:50 pm

    Don't try to understand Poles.
    Poles don't understand each other either.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:54 am

    As a more positive note, a pro Russian party is about to win elections in Slovakia. russia
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:21 am

    ALAMO wrote:The interesting part is, that the more you go right - the more pragmatic opinions towards Russia became.

    It is not love, but a calculation of a smaller nation being squeezed between two power centers of Germany and Russia, that must have some politics to balance that.

    But both the biggest coaltions in Poland are 100% right-wing (one is less right than other) and there is no pragmatism or balancing in their policies, only brazen attempts of being the anti-Russia vanguard for USA.

    Right-wing parties in Poland is a combination of both (anti-abortion/anti-LGBT/social conservative) + (lapdog of USA/EU fanboi/anti-Russia).

    Same things happen amongst right-wing politics in the Baltic States.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:36 am

    But why is Poland so vehemently anti Russian?
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    Post  TMA1 Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:42 am

    The western elite factions are mostly center left I think if you could get them to admit it. They are strangely obsessed with fostering the so-called "woke" stuff. It seems their ulterior motives are to fracture western society of yore and push for hard austerity measures. I cannot get a handle on why.

    Anyways the reason I was saying this is it is interesting that the recent plots of these elites is to use right wing groups and right wing rage on key issues and manipulate them into tools for the destruction of Russia. Sadly much of the degenerate right like nazis and establishment right are buying right into it. Thr only ones really pushing back are the populist left and right. This gives me hope as I am a populist right wing person and I know some on the left are awake to all the slithery tricks of the elites.

    It is very strange tho. Strange bedfellows. Neocons/neolibs in uneasy alliance with white nationalist around the globe. Some have theorized that the hard right white nationalists have been groomed and guided to be foot soldiers for Ukriane. It looks like there is truth to this. Remember recently the investigation of those blood gang white nationalist weirdos here in America. Remember that "bonehead" weirdo and how he essentially admitted to working for the CIA and people came out with info he was a spook informant?

    And you got shit like NAFO. It is so schizophrenic. White nationalists, anarchosyndicalist types, transgender activists, satanists, evangelicals, etc all together in one happy CIA and CIA affiliated NGO conducted organization. So damned weird. Sometimes stuff like this and the recent Sarah Ashton Cirillo shit make me go numb and question reality and my sanity. Clown world.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:04 am

    higurashihougi wrote:

    But both the biggest coaltions in Poland are 100% right-wing

    They are not.
    They are masqueraded commies.
    There is no right wing in Poland, honestly.
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:48 am

    And here comes the McCarthyism What a Face

    Was taking them a while to kick it off. But in the end they delivered

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/21/katrin-ivanova-bulgaria-beautician-arrested-spying-russia/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_youtube_youtube-community
    Pictured: Award-winning beautician accused of spying for Russia

    Vanya Gaberova, who is among five Bulgarians set to be charged with espionage, was 'timid and discreet' say neighbours of her beauty salon
    By Max Stephens and Will Bolton, Crime correspondent 21 September 2023 • 8:54pm

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    Vanya Gaberova ran a beauty salon in Acton, north-west London

    An award-winning beautician is among five people suspected of spying for Russia who are set to be charged with conspiracy to conduct espionage in the UK.

    Vanya Gaberova, 29, who owns a beauty salon in Acton, north London, is the youngest member of the alleged spy ring, which is made up of Bulgarian nationals.

    Ms Gaberova describes herself as an “eyelash extension specialist” and claims to have won multiple awards in the UK, Bulgaria and Russia.

    Residents in Acton who have known the young business owner for the past two years expressed shock upon hearing the allegations laid against her.

    One local restaurant owner described her as “timid”, adding: “If she is a spy, she was a good one”.

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    Ms Gabervoa describes herself as a multiple award-winning eyelash extension specialist

    Ms Gaberova is one of five Bulgarians who are set to be charged with “conspiring to collect information intended to be directly or indirectly useful to an enemy for a purpose prejudicial to the safety and interests of the state”.

    The group operated in the UK over a two-year period from Aug 30 2020 until Feb 8 2023, the Crown Prosecution Service claims.

    Ms Gaberova will be charged alongside Orlin Roussev, 45, Bizer Dzhambazov, 41, Katrin Ivanova, 31 and Ivan Stoyanava, 31.

    They will all appear at Westminster Magistrates Court on Sept 26.

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    Left to right: Orlin Roussev, Katrin Ivanova and Bizer Dzhambazov have also been charged

    Tiago Nogueria, the manager of Portuguese restaurant Villamoura, located opposite Ms Gaberova’s beauty shop, Pretty Women, said he had known her for the past two years.

    He said: “She was renting that place and would leave her staff to do other stuff. She had a partner, a big guy and I was thinking what was he doing with that pretty girl.

    “She was very timid, discreet. I wouldn’t have suspected her of being a spy but if she was, she was a good one. I knew her for two or three years and I never expected that.”

    A phone number visible on the outside of the beauty shop had been disconnected and the website advertised by the shop had either been taken down, or did not exist.

    A young Bulgarian girl working at the salon said: “I have been told not to say anything.”

    Officers who searched properties in London and Norfolk occupied by Mr Roussev, Mr Dzhambazov, and Ms Ivanova in February, allegedly found fake passports for a number of European countries.

    As well as fake passports, police also allegedly seized identity cards from Bulgaria, France, Italy, Spain, Croatia, Slovenia, Greece and the Czech Republic.

    The trio have also been charged with the possession of false identity documents. All five defendants were arrested in February under the Official Secrets Act.
    Alleged operation run from guesthouse

    Mr Roussev is alleged to have run the operation out of a guesthouse in Norfolk. He moved to the UK in 2009.

    Mr Roussev, Mr Dzhambazov and Ms Ivanova are understood to have lived in the UK for several years, working different jobs and living in a range of suburban houses.

    Mr Dzhambazov and Ms Ivanova were detained at their flat in Harrow, where neighbours described them as quiet and unremarkable.

    He is believed to work as a driver for hospitals, while she describes herself as a laboratory assistant for a medical business based in central London.

    The Bulgarians also had links to a flat in north-west London located a mile away from the RAF Northolt military base.

    The base is frequently used by ministers, foreign heads of state and members of the royal family.

    Nick Price, head of the CPS Special Crime and Counter Terrorism Division, said: “The CPS has authorised a charge of conspiracy to conduct espionage against three men and two women suspected of spying for Russia.

    “The charges follow an investigation by the Metropolitan Police. Criminal proceedings against the five individuals are active and they each have the right to a fair trial.”

    What are they being charged with?
    Having fake identity documents? That's practically normal for people from the Balkans

    Having a rented flat a mile from an RAF base? Who the hell is interested in it?


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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:49 am

    ALAMO wrote:They are masqueraded commies.

    But no communist dismantle or vandalize WW2 Red Army Heroes monuments like the rabid politicians in Warszawa, Kiev and the Baltics have been doing.

    To communist it is taboo.
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:28 pm

    https://www.rt.com/news/596289-finland-accuses-russia-eu-migrants/

    NATO member accuses Russia of exploiting migration
    Finland’s prime minister claims that Moscow has used asylum seekers from the Middle East against the EU


    Russia has engineered the influx of migrants from third countries in order to undermine the EU, Finnish Prime Minister Petteri Orpo said on Friday. Petteri made the comments during a visit to the frontier at Imatra, along with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen. At a joint press conference, von der Leyen claimed that Russian President Vladimir Putin “has set his sights on Finland”.

    Readers's comments:

    -Does this guy get paid for accusing, threatening and whining regarding Russia?
    -I do remember that German chancellor invited all immigrants into EU.
    -Finland seems to have lost much of its common sense since joining the dead NATO. One thing they have already learned from the USA is to blame other nations
    -Enjoy the new cheaper labor force. It will lower the Corporate costs, that's how US Corporations rule Congress. Welcome to the Western Globalists World. You can fight among yourself but politicians will take bribes from their Corporate Cabal and the immigration will continue.
    -When 30 000 immigrants came via Sweden 2014, Finland did nothing, did not close the border. Now when it is a question about 1200 immigrants, this idiot Orpo closes the border.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:11 pm

    Van der leyen pretending she knows what is happening... it is all a plot by Putin to destroy Finland.

    The all powerful Putin... makes you wonder why Finland joined HATO and made Russia its enemy if Putin is all powerful.

    The comments by the readers are amusing and very insightful... but then it is RT so it is mostly read by people capable of thinking for themselves.

    It is hilarious really... the costs of closing the border with Russia will not just be political... they will be economic and will further help Russians realise Europe is the enemy and the rest of the world is where they should be focussing for their future growth and development.

    Europe does not want Russia or China or any other non western country to grow or develop... BRICS countries present and future would do well to understand that and steer clear of the west as much as they can till they are at a point where they can negotiate equal trade agreements. Because until then the west will seek to screw them over as much as they can.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:10 pm

    Let me get that clear : Somali gangs in Sweden are a part of Putin's evil plan, too ?

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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:06 pm

    Yes, not one single western government or individual politician has ever made a mistake... any negative thing in the west right now or for the last 25 years is all Putins fault.

    He made Europe pay a lot more for energy and raw materials because he is evil.

    He tricked Europe and the US into spending money on a corrupt evil country called the Ukraine... money they will never get back.

    All that cheap grain and material coming out of the Ukraine and heading to Europe is not the result of US companies owning those Ukrainian farms and mines and production plants... it is just Putin and his evil plans to destroy the west.

    He tricked them into imposing sanctions on Russia to damage the west too.

    Clever bastard.... he did all of this and made it look like it was the wests doing and the wests idea... he is just that tricky...

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:10 pm

    Let's not forget about his evil plan to deindustrialize Europe by blowing up his pipes, where the EU-based energy companies had some 5 bln euro share.
    Pure evil he is.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:38 pm

    Yes, made more sinister by his attempts to try to blame the US for it all...

    I mean the only country who had access to those locations would have been the US who had exercises in that area... I wonder what they were training to do?

    All the western investigations are coming up empty so we may never know... till wiki leaks reveals...

    The strange thing is that he had the pipes blown up when all he had to do was to order the taps turned off.

    The scary thing is that he clearly had his navy infiltrate the HATO lake in HATO territorial waters and they were not detected... how did they manage it?

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:44 pm

    This blaming the white and furry rabbit Muricans is just one more proof of him being nothing more than evil.
    And he still keeps Snowden in gulag!

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