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    Russophobia, Common Lies-Nonsense on Russia

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    Post  andalusia Tue May 03, 2022 9:47 am

    Russia's women's soccer team banned from World Cup.  Also, Russian and Belaurussian tennis players are banned from Wimbledon:


    This is going too far.


    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/uefa-disqualifies-russia-from-womens-euros-champions-league-womens-world-cup-190414072.html
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    Post  GarryB Tue May 03, 2022 1:36 pm

    It is a good thing... it forces Russia to realise their future is not with Europe and the west and neither is the rest of the worlds future with the west... it gives them reason to look to the rest of the world and for the rest of the world that is a good thing too and even for the west it is a good thing because America has been a selfish and self centred leader of the so called free world and has abused it more than the real enemies of the west... the 1% rich bastards who think there is nothing wrong with 1% of the population owning more than 80% of the worlds money and resources... as long as it is them.

    The west needs to wake up... there is room for the US and the EU in the new multipolar world but they are going to have to up their game because the way they play... no one else in the sand pit will want to play with them.

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    Post  andalusia Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:53 am

    Just saw this on Yahoo saying US showing Russia how to build a bridge; I would think Russian military has the capability to build a bridge.  Comments about the article.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-soldiers-just-showed-russia-how-a-competent-army-performs-a-bridge-crossing/ar-AAYxJR6?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8ac1b0ccf0f04b1780d3d71dcb1d4088
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:21 am

    The US shows everybody everything, because they think they are right and know how to do everything right.

    The US has not noticed that Russia and China have stopped listening.

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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:12 pm

    This is pure propaganda. Every clown in NATzO believes (or pretends to) that Russia failed to mount a river crossing a couple of weeks
    ago. Even people on this forum buy into that rubbish. I have seen lots of Ukrainian equipment in the photographs of this "fail" but
    no proof of any Russian failure.

    This forum is being polluted by NATzO inanity. Like the Russian "retreat" from around Kiev and how the US "overestimated" the Russian
    military.

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    Post  Hole Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:43 pm

    Would love to see them build a bridge under fire from 2S7, Smerch and Ka-52. Twisted Evil
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:31 am

    Most recent news from the US is bridges falling down rather than new bridges being built... how many US taxpayers should be wondering why the US is helping the Ukraine with 50 billion dollars when their own bridges need replacing and new bridges need to be built in the US.

    But instead they pretend that they care about the Russian Army and want to help them do better... but of course that was never the reasons... it is a sham attempt to get a win from a catastrophy... their HATO equipped HATO trained Nazis are getting plastered by a recon force that normally leads the Russian Army whereever it goes.

    Look at their fake wins.... ghost of Kiev can shoot down the entire Russian AF, their magic anti ship missiles can sink the most powerful ship in the Russian fleet, and the Russians don't know how to cross rivers.

    The first is obvious because HATO is airpower centric so their air power has to win or they lose... you just need to look at the Afghanistan debacle to see that in operation.... another pillar of their world power is their enormous carrier fleets so they need to pretend they can defeat the Russian Navy easily so they make up a story about a subsonic missile attack... hilarious.

    And the cherry on the top, pretending the Russian Army can't cross rivers is like saying the US military can't spend money. Twisted Evil

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    Post  andalusia Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:53 am

    UEFA decided on September 20 that Russia will be excluded from next month's 2024 European Championship preliminary draw.

    Will this increase the possibility of them trying to join the Asian Football Confederation and leaving UEFA since there is a lot of bad blood between Russia many of the countries that make up UEFA that are also members of NATO?

    It will have to be soon because the joint AFC world cup qualification and Asian cup qualifiers will probably start in the second half of 2023.
    I think changing confederations for national team participation shouldn't be an issue. But clubs participating in the AFC competitions is a much more complicated matter.

    If you take into account all the wars, illegal meddling in other countries affairs and sanctions causing thousands of deaths then the US should have been banned from every sport about 70 years ago.



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    Post  Firebird Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:49 pm

    Just my idea for a thread.

    A proportion of people here are either Russian, living in the Russian World, or some form of Russian/mixed diaspora living in hostile or other nations.

    Those living in Russia potentially suffer from anti-Russian racism. As do diaspora living in the West.
    I think its the Saker blog that says Russians are, to all intents and purposes seen by the Western Establishment as "snow n1ggers" ie a lesser race that should be exploited and marginalised at any opportunity.

    Perhaps this thread could identify examples of racism against Russians. People could then choose to boycott these organisations and we could use our networks to identify the perpetrators to others and ultimately hit them in the pocket... to some extent or other.

    The Hall of Tossers so to speak is large.
    But some I can think of right now are:-

    International Olympic Committee
    FIFA and UEFA
    And any of their sponsors who support their actions.

    Can anyone think of other examples.
    Particularly organisations who could be exposed, and perhaps targetted in mass email campaigns by any groups who wish to do so.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:19 am

    It is funny that many western people get really shitty when you use the n word... it seems to not be acceptable to call the new niggers by the old words so it will take some time before they understand they are just repeating the same mistakes people made in the past... but using the word requires bravery because it will cause real arguments because it brings up a lot of hurt and pain for some victims and a lot of woke BS from people whose ancestors have never been called niggers but they know their ancestors probably used the words freely.

    In the past people of non white skin colour were treated as animals... actually not human, even mutilated bodies were put on public display to show they weren't human... these days there is a problem... back then the slur used against the Russians was that they were half asian but there are too many Asians who might be offended at their race being used as a slur... on social media they love to show video of Russian soldiers getting killed... the more things change the more they stay the same.

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    Post  lancelot Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:25 pm

    Youtube started pushing this guy's videos to me.


    He claims to be a former aircraft engineer at Illyushin who migrated to the Czech Republic in the 1990s.

    He persistently makes false claims and demeans Soviet and Russian aviation and technical accomplishments in general. He puts tiny morsels of truth but spreads around tons of lies and bullshit. That video I link about the Tu-160 is one example of this.

    He claims the B-1 bomber is better than the Tu-160 because it has three bomb bays instead of two. Except the B-1 bomb bays can only carry 4m long missiles, which is one reason why they never put the 6m long AGM-86 ALCM in it. So the B-1 would need to drop cruise missiles from internal bays basically within distance of MiG-31 interception (interceptor range from base plus missile range with R-33 is further than longest range cruise missile the B-1 can launch). Because B-1 can only carry short range 4m long cruise missiles. There were plans to convert the B-1 from three smaller to two larger bomb bays to solve this but due to cost cutting it was never done. The Tu-160 has the larger bomb bays so it can carry 6m long cruise missiles like Kh-101 internally.

    He compares the speed of the Mach 2.0 B-1A (which never entered service), with the Tu-160, and claims this means the Tu-160 has no speed advantage over the B-1. Rolling Eyes

    He claims the Tu-160 has less range than the B-1.

    He claims that Russia has not produced any Tu-160M from scratch with all new parts.

    The bullshit and lies continue. And all his other videos are pretty much like this.

    He also proclaims the superiority of US aviation where the XB-70 Valkyrie bomber was some sort of super-technology which only did not enter service because it was not needed due to all US opponents being so much inferior  Smile . Such BS. The Valkyrie could not even fly more than once without warping due to using honeycombed metal matrix materials. You basically flew it once and then had to send the airframe into the trash. A more modern day Spruce Goose that is what it was. This is why the XB-70 got cancelled. It simply did not work. It was supposed to use those metamaterials to be able to attain such high speeds with the required performance, but the metamaterials did not have the hoped for reliability.

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:04 pm

    Anyone can be a youtuber and make any kind of claims.

    When one has to use examples of equipment that never existed as an example how it's superior to something else, is indication the person lies. Especially when in same video claims that a modern version never came out with all brand new parts. Contradicts previous comment.

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    Post  lyle6 Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:41 pm

    Sounds a likely story. What kind of emigre engineer fails to pick up English living abroad for decades?

    If I was an Ilyushin engineer with lots of juicy deets to spill I won't be broadcasting in Russian and racking up views from Ukrainians and Poles.

    I'll speak in English for an English audience and NFKRZ it up.

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    Post  lancelot Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:21 am



    OMFG this video of his is so bad I nearly pissed myself laughing Laughing. He claims the Yak-130 was designed by the Italians and made by the Chinese and sold to Russia. He also claims the MC-21's PD-14 is a CFM Leap engine which is assembled in China. And that the MC-21 is a clone of the Chinese C919. He then proceeds to mix up images of the PW1400, CFM Leap, and PD-14 clearly not knowing which is which. Claims that Yakolev has no engineers and everything was imported.

    Idiotic.

    This sure smells of paid propaganda. He even asskisses Mikhail Khodorkovsky near the end of the video.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:28 am

    Hahaha... the B-1B does have three weapon bays but on strategic missions two of the bays are normally filled with fuel to give it the flight range to reach anything useful... it is no accident they are based in Europe up north... and will likely get shot down just after taking off.

    The B-1B is better compared with the Tu-22M3... it is still slower and has rather less installed engine power and no missile that compares to the Kh-32 let alone any new missile being developed for the Tupolev large aircraft trio.

    I remember in the late 1980s they claimed the B-1B would be the ideal US bomber to fly around and destroy truck mounted ICBMs on Soviet territory... there was also a suggestion that the B-2 could do the same, but after Desert Storm when Iraq fired half a dozen Scuds every day at western targets with not a single Scud launcher being destroyed before it launched its missile despite the US having total air superiority and satellite observation and no enemy air power interfering... over a space a tiny fraction of the area the Soviets/Russians could operate their truck mounted weapons.

    It seems the Iraqis used modified school buses to transport their missiles... and the other support vehicles needed to operate a Scud launcher battery.

    In many ways I find it funny when the west ignores reality and totally underestimates the Russians because that will really help them up their game when dealing with the rest of the world who will not base their opinions on western news media rubbish, and will look at results.

    Javelin better than Kornet... various western artillery vehicles better than the latest Russian artillery vehicle.... etc etc etc...

    Like that Shaggy song... "wasn't me"... of course the irony is that the song is about a dirty whore of a man sleeping with neighbours and strangers and going to shaggy for advice and the advice is to just deny it no matter what the evidence... the humorous thing is that the man whore ends up realising Shaggy is not a player and you shouldn't lie to people like that... ignoring the fact that he has been shagging anything with a vagina in the whole song... that is the west all over really... run away from both if you can because they are toxic but think they are cool and everyone wants to be like them...
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:30 pm

    https://www.rt.com/news/583192-russia-illegal-migrants-poland/

    Putin behind EU migrant crisis – Polish diplomat

    “Someone is helping” thousands of asylum seekers reach Italy’s Lampedusa, Deputy Foreign Minister Arkadiusz Mularczyk claimed

    A senior Polish diplomat has suggested that the recent surge in illegal immigrants arriving on the Italian island of Lampedusa might be a component of a Russian hybrid operation designed to erode the European Union’s support for Ukraine.

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    Post  Hole Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:32 pm

    “Someone is helping” 
    Maybe he should point his anger at the people that bombed Libya.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:02 am

    Hahahahaha... a politician from Poland pretending to care about immigrant problems for Italy... I don't believe it...

    What they really care about is trying to blame Russia for everything so the solution to every problem... inflation, the economy, energy, immigration... is to send more weapons and ammo and money to Kiev...

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:00 am

    Chill out folks Laughing
    They are in a panic mode.
    We have an election campaign right here, with the election set at 3+ weeks from now.
    While a giant diplomatic scandal is growing.
    It turned out, that the Polish consular system was granting Shengen grade visas to everyone who could pay for it.
    No matter the country you were from, for $7-10k you could just receive it, with no other investigation.
    Long story short, it seems like at least QUARTER A MILLION of visas were provided, making the whole sick joke a 2+ BILLION $ business Laughing Laughing Laughing
    The case is so fukin' unbelievable, that it turned out that the consular bodies exchanged in between name lists of the individuals who paid much enough to speed up the process using official consular mails.
    In some cases, they have placed tables and chairs in front of ambassies/consulates to speed up the check-in Laughing Laughing Laughing
    TikTok was full of some mixed-breed individuals in strange clothes waving the Polish consular papers in front of a camera, instructing their own compatriots how to get to beloved Jurop for relatively cheap Laughing Laughing Laughing

    What makes the whole story even more juicy, the ruling party - that is being represented by the guy who turned you on - is extremely migrant ideology-heavy, and ordered both border walls to be constructed, and harsh methods to fight illegal migrants organized in Belarus to be applied.
    For example, my friends from the special formations were patrolling the Bieszczady forest in a full-scale antiDRG style, to catch the organized human smuggling. In full gear.
    So don't bother the things Polish politicians will say for the next 3+ weeks. They will say anything to bite each others to death Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:14 am

    ALAMO - which party in your opinion is more russophobic, PiS or PO?

    Is there a pro Russian party in Poland, even a small one?
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:59 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Is there a pro Russian party in Poland, even a small one?

    Communist.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:10 am

    Have fun looking for the Warsaw Marxist society, Walther. All 10 of them.
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:17 am

    Even if there are any "communists" out there, must have been hiding for good and for a while Laughing

    The interesting part is, that the more you go right - the more pragmatic opinions towards Russia became.

    It is not love, but a calculation of a smaller nation being squeezed between two power centers of Germany and Russia, that must have some politics to balance that.
    Common sense suggests getting closer to the one that has no/less claims and is more similar to you.
    But common sense is not a European agenda for the last decade, and I would dare to say more than a decade.

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    Post  kvs Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:00 pm

    The hate hard-on for Russia in Poland is demented. Nothing in the history over the last 1000 years justifies this hate. The
    vassalage of Poland to the Russian Empire was soft by European standards and Poland got itself shafted in this regard by trying
    to some sort of regional superpower and regime changing Russia. It is hard to see how the post Mongol destruction of Kiev
    period of the Grand Dutchy of Poland and Lithuania would be a basis for hate. It was the Poles who moved into Kievan Rus
    lands and started assimilating the remaining locals (giving us Ukrainians).

    The only origin of the hate is the Catholic anti-Orthodox crusade. You would think that Poland would have forgotten about the
    schism and religion is no longer the pivot of society in Europe.

    The Warsaw Pact period saw Poland avoiding any forced collectivization and looking more like Yugoslavia than the USSR. If Poles
    want to blame anyone for this period, then blame their western pals who started WWII to solve the Russia problem.

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