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Russophobia, Common Lies-Nonsense on Russia
Hole- Posts : 11154
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The greater story for the western MSM is who leaked the stuff, not what is in the documents.
GarryB- Posts : 40675
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Distraction...
Was the same with Hilarys emails and total incompetence and of course Bidens corruption in the Ukraine regarding his sons case... change the focus to how it was released and by whom and why... just ignore the information revealed itself...
Was the same with Hilarys emails and total incompetence and of course Bidens corruption in the Ukraine regarding his sons case... change the focus to how it was released and by whom and why... just ignore the information revealed itself...
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Hole wrote:The greater story for the western MSM is who leaked the stuff, not what is in the documents.
A clear double standard compared with the "Climategate" emails coverage. In that case there was no concern for who stole them,
all that was the bitched about was the supposed contents. The supposed hack of the DNC in 2016 is the same BS. That
Killary screwed over with electoral fraud Bernie Sanders was not the issue for the fake stream media, it was who supposedly
stole the emails. In fact, it was most likely Seth Rich who was then murdered for it. And Russia is harassed with the
Magnitsky situation....
The western media likes to make itself out as fair on climate change coverage. This is BS. For the longest time
they would give equal time to denier cranks as if climate change was some political opinion and not science fact.
In the case of Climategate, the MSM was insinuating that the climate researchers faked their data because of some
out of context quips. But that is all they could do since there was no smoking gun in the emails whatsoever.
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GarryB wrote:Distraction...
Was the same with Hilarys emails and total incompetence and of course Bidens corruption in the Ukraine regarding his sons case... change the focus to how it was released and by whom and why... just ignore the information revealed itself...
The sad thing is that the majority are sheeple who can be manipulated with such tactics. I find it hard to grasp how intellectually slothful must
these sheeple be to allow for such predictable control. But this sort of low IQ prevalence is consistent with entropy. Both in nature and nurture.
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- Post n°555
Latvian regime
Due to the apartheid and repression of the Russian language policy of the Latvian regime, the statelet is in a severe crisis with its
medical system. There is one main hospital for oncology treatment in Latvia in Riga, it has 30 beds and only 3 oncologists. People
are dying from cancer while waiting to get treated. All early intervention such as for breast cancer is no longer done since there
are no human resources to do the testing.
The Latvian regime subjected the staff of one hospital to a Nazi style interrogation about their use of Russian instead of Latvian.
This harassment prevented them from even doing their jobs since they spent their time trying to justify their existence to the Latvian
regime language Gestapo (called a commission). For example any complaint about some nurse not speaking Latvian would result in
all her co-workers for the same shift undergoing language interrogation.
In addition to driving Russian speakers out of Latvia, the low wages are driving out ethnic Latvian medical students and workers
out of the country to look for better pay. This happens in the case of Canada where many new medical professionals move to
the USA, but not to the extent in Latvia. In Latvia the number of new medical professionals staying in the country is under 20%.
So the Latvian regime fiddles while the Latvian medical system burns and terrorizes the firefighters. They should stage more
SS veterans parades to make themselves feel better.
BTW, the EU is not in any hurry to prop up Latvia's health budget. So this statelet is not even being used as a display case
to con Russians with stories about how rich the west is anymore. Health care in Russia is vastly better than in Latvia and
Canada for that matter.
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Off topic stuff Here...
kvs- Posts : 15918
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The concept of a return to the USSR is beyond retarded, especially as a propaganda theme.
All of the ex-Soviet republics have turned into Russia hating chihuahuas. And Belorus should never have been a country
since it is a part of Russia with a slightly different local dialect. There is way more variation in dialects in England alone
(aside from the fact that Scots and Welsh are not English) than seen between Belorus and Russia. So Belorus being
part of some union with Russia has nothing to do with any USSR.
Western propaganda is for the ignorant and the retarded.
All of the ex-Soviet republics have turned into Russia hating chihuahuas. And Belorus should never have been a country
since it is a part of Russia with a slightly different local dialect. There is way more variation in dialects in England alone
(aside from the fact that Scots and Welsh are not English) than seen between Belorus and Russia. So Belorus being
part of some union with Russia has nothing to do with any USSR.
Western propaganda is for the ignorant and the retarded.
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kvs wrote:
The German defense minister is saber rattling at Russia since she claims that Russia is aggressively violating the right to
self-determination of "countries" and that the "annexation" of Crimea is proof. So Germany and NATzO must assert their
values to contain Russian "aggression" and "threat" to the world order.
1) Since when are NATzO members and their sycophant bootlick colonies endowed with the God-like power and right
to decide the case of Crimea? Their recognition of Ukraine's annexation of Crimea in 1991 does not establish Ukraine's
right to own Crimea.
2) While jabbering about "right to self-determination" this **** is denying the 64% ethnic Russian majority in Crimea that wich
Kosovo Albanians received in 1999 and was affirmed by the ICJ in 2008. No, there never were more Ukrainians in Crimea than
Russians. Crimea was illegally gifted by corrupt maggot Khruschev to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954. There never was any majority
of Ukrainians in Crimea before 1954 and after.
3) Crimean Tatars never had any state called Crimea. In fact, their history is as slavers who would raid what is Ukraine
today to grab Slavs and send them to the Ottoman Empire and other Islamic regions. Also, Crimean Tatars are being
treated vastly better today than before 2014 by Ukraine. Not every ethnic minority gets a state. That is true around the
world and has solid practical reasons for it. All this ethnic nationalism BS is a tool to destabilize countries that do not
bend the knee to NATzO.
4) If this German **** wants to nitpick about Russian ethnic issues and internal borders (the 1991 borders of Ukraine
are not legal and no amount of NATzO "recognition" will make them legal) then she should start with the whole of
the EU and redraw every border. She can start with the Basques and return lands to France.
So in the end it is NATzO member Germany that is a threat to peace and sane international affairs. She represents the
imperial hubris of NATzO which lies and lies and never ceases its destabilization efforts. She says that she wants peace
and good relations, but that is simple double-speak. She wants the NATzO empire to expand its control and to dictate
to the world how to live and what to do.
Europe and its derivatives (USA) have a bloody history of colonialism and the disease of self-righteousness and "moral authority"
that is concocted to lubricate imperialism. Clearly, this behaviour has not changed and has merely adapted to the reality that
the world is no longer a pushover of mud hut dwellers. But even with this adaptation, the imperial project is losing steam since
the world is developing and gaining more and more power to resist.
this idiot german defence minister again
German defense chief’s stance on Russia weakens European security, says Russian official
Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov reminded that several days ago, the German defense minister said during an address to the Bundestag that dialogue with Russia on disarmament should be established "from the position of force"
MOSCOW, November 27. /TASS/. The statement of German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer on establishing dialogue with Russia "from the position of force" does not strengthen European security, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov said on Friday.
"Ms. Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer was appointed Germany’s defense minister not so long ago. However, just like her predecessor, she demonstrates the inability to offer anything significant that would facilitate real improvement of European security," he said.
Konashenkov reminded that several days ago, the German defense minister said during an address to the Bundestag that dialogue with Russia on disarmament should be established "from the position of force." The spokesman noted that the Russian Defense Ministry did not rush to respond to this statement, hoping that German politicians would correct the minister themselves. However, this did not happen, he stressed.
"We have to state that this is not the first time that statements by certain politicians of the Federal Republic of Germany in relation to building relations with Russia remind us of a schoolboy’s attempts to compensate for his lack of knowledge by saying something loud and absurd," the spokesman quipped.
Konashenkov also pointed out that a similar stance expressed by Germany in the 20th century "had already led to tragic consequences for the entire world, Germany itself and the German people."
Earlier, German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer said during an address to the Bundestag that Germany should continue establishing dialogue on disarmament with Russia "from the position of force," noting that "this has always been a good stance of German foreign policy and it should remain as such in the future.".
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The chihuahua wants to talk to the bear from the position of force
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LMFS wrote:The chihuahua wants to talk to the bear from the position of force
It shows you the real essence of the PC libtards. As with Biden, they are all neocons at heart.
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Earlier, German Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer said during an address to the Bundestag that Germany should continue establishing dialogue on disarmament with Russia "from the position of force," noting that "this has always been a good stance of German foreign policy and it should remain as such in the future.".
The huge irony is that there is no point in talking to the Germans about security from Russias perspective because clearly with the loss of the ABM treaty and the INF treaty and soon the new START treaty Germany really has no say in the defence ties between Europe and Russia....
If Russia wants to talk about defence and disarmament then they don't need to bother talking to the gardener or the the chef... just go inside the manor and talk to the American overlords... but there is little point because they don't care about the safety of their chef and gardener...
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What BS is this? fence on the border with Russia by Estonia
https://en.topwar.ru/177870-jestonija-nachala-otgorazhivatsja-ot-rossii-zaborom-s-koljuchej-provolokoj.html
https://en.topwar.ru/177870-jestonija-nachala-otgorazhivatsja-ot-rossii-zaborom-s-koljuchej-provolokoj.html
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I think it's great for Russia. Estonia is doing Russia's job of blocking off that border between them since Estonia and it's NATO troops can stir trouble. Fence now makes it harder.
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That is like Latvia last month sending a letter to Russian asking them to please restart using their port facilities as it was creating a financial hardship for their economy. The letter went on to say that they still reserved the right to "hate and cause whatever grief they could to Mother".
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franco wrote:That is like Latvia last month sending a letter to Russian asking them to please restart using their port facilities as it was creating a financial hardship for their economy. The letter went on to say that they still reserved the right to "hate and cause whatever grief they could to Mother".
Did Russia ever provide a response to that?
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You can't argue with stupid
Not that I have read.
Not that I have read.
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miketheterrible wrote:franco wrote:That is like Latvia last month sending a letter to Russian asking them to please restart using their port facilities as it was creating a financial hardship for their economy. The letter went on to say that they still reserved the right to "hate and cause whatever grief they could to Mother".
Did Russia ever provide a response to that?
From the censored by YouCrap videos that I watched, it looks like there was no official reply. Russia at least tries to be careful with
such bait sometimes. If Russia made a factually correct response to this BS "plea", it would have been accused of trying to invade
Latvia.
You see, Latvia is so precious that even the EU doesn't want to spend a dime on it. So obviously, Russia is dreaming of grabbing this
precious possession....
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Wow its amazing that such a young man has acquired so much expertise at such a young age to play such a big role in such an advanced and complex system. I will say that while this may initially cause some minor issues, in the longer run it will really boost the Russian MIC. I wonder sometimes if Stalins brutal purges unleashed a lot of innovation that resulted in the things like the AK-47, T-34 and Katyusha. But of course the price was not worth it.
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mnztr wrote:... I wonder sometimes if Stalins brutal purges unleashed a lot of innovation that resulted in the things like the AK-47, T-34 and Katyusha. But of course the price was not worth it.
It set them back two decades
Stalin was incompetent retard
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Actually PD is full of sh*t. Stalin had even those sent to the gulag working on the war effort.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharashka
The idea that Stalin was 100% responsible for filling up the gulags is BS. One man has zero power. And Stalin was surrounded by
maggots like Khruschev who were eager beaver gulag fillers. Stalin succeeded in driving the lunatic Trotskyists out of power, but
that left the rotten commie party still in charge. It really is a miracle that the USSR managed to win the Great Patriotic war.
Khruschev could have staged his coup in 1942 using the failures on the front as excuses. Under his rule all the gulags would
be filled beyond capacity and any talent shot for wrong think.
When Russia's enemies are so heavily invested in some narrative on Russia, then it has to be automatically questioned. The
west's love for Khruschev, Trotsky, Yeltsin, expose its real agenda. That is to destroy Russia. The drivel about Stalin being
incompetent during WWII is utter revisionist nonsense. Hitler's view that the USSR would crumble like a rotten facade was
not posturing inanity. The purges of the 1930s did actually remove foreign agents from the Soviet army. And the repeated
claim that Stalin was "surprised" by his "allies" attacking is trivial fiction. If he was not aware of an imminent attack he would
not have been engaging in a massive military build up. The USSR increased its war potential by 40% between the signing of
the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and the Nazi invasion. The move of military production to the Urals region could not be achieved
without preparatory work.
BTW, where was all the resistance to Hitler's blitzkrieg in the normal and non-gulag west? There was none that mattered. The
only reason that the UK was not invaded was because of the English Channel. It would have crumbled as easily as France.
The only country in Europe that put up real resistance was the USSR. Not too shabby for a purged and gulagged state run
by an incompetent moron...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharashka
The idea that Stalin was 100% responsible for filling up the gulags is BS. One man has zero power. And Stalin was surrounded by
maggots like Khruschev who were eager beaver gulag fillers. Stalin succeeded in driving the lunatic Trotskyists out of power, but
that left the rotten commie party still in charge. It really is a miracle that the USSR managed to win the Great Patriotic war.
Khruschev could have staged his coup in 1942 using the failures on the front as excuses. Under his rule all the gulags would
be filled beyond capacity and any talent shot for wrong think.
When Russia's enemies are so heavily invested in some narrative on Russia, then it has to be automatically questioned. The
west's love for Khruschev, Trotsky, Yeltsin, expose its real agenda. That is to destroy Russia. The drivel about Stalin being
incompetent during WWII is utter revisionist nonsense. Hitler's view that the USSR would crumble like a rotten facade was
not posturing inanity. The purges of the 1930s did actually remove foreign agents from the Soviet army. And the repeated
claim that Stalin was "surprised" by his "allies" attacking is trivial fiction. If he was not aware of an imminent attack he would
not have been engaging in a massive military build up. The USSR increased its war potential by 40% between the signing of
the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and the Nazi invasion. The move of military production to the Urals region could not be achieved
without preparatory work.
BTW, where was all the resistance to Hitler's blitzkrieg in the normal and non-gulag west? There was none that mattered. The
only reason that the UK was not invaded was because of the English Channel. It would have crumbled as easily as France.
The only country in Europe that put up real resistance was the USSR. Not too shabby for a purged and gulagged state run
by an incompetent moron...
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The facts are that Putin has done something similar but without the deaths and the threats and fear.
It is hard to second guess Stalins methods simply because we are looking at what he did from a different time... some would argue that a softer man might not have gotten done what needed to be done, of course others might say you can use fear to earn respect or you can lead by example and make those below you want to do a good job to please you...
The problem is that most people who have written about him had an agenda... I wouldn't trust a US or UK source on the matter simply because it is not in their interests to tell the truth... they can't even be honest about Yemen or Syria or Libya right now.
You don't get to the top by being a nice guy. Bashing a few skulls can be necessary... especially if those a 5th column skulls.
Another factor is that often human nature will take advantage of a situation... look at Afghans... when the Soviets were there they would often help the hated infidel invaders if it meant taking land from a neighbour... in other words the conflict was used to advance their own position in their own little universe.... I would expect foreign spies did what they could to get competent people in Russia eliminated or at least removed to where they could not do any good.
The people who survived the system likely also benefited in some way with rivals removed and paths to advancement made clear, so getting anything like an honest recount would be unlikely.
Western claims would make it appear Stalin killed more Soviets than Hitler did, but that can be immediately dismissed, because just as there were attempts on Hitler there would have been attempts on Stalin if he was seen to be a problem.
You could argue that the entire Russian revolution was created by WWI and WWII was a natural consequence of western inept and depraved actions towards Germany... a country no more at fault for WWI happening than any other country involved, yet they directed all the blame at the Germans and made them responsible for outrageous conditions.
It is hard to second guess Stalins methods simply because we are looking at what he did from a different time... some would argue that a softer man might not have gotten done what needed to be done, of course others might say you can use fear to earn respect or you can lead by example and make those below you want to do a good job to please you...
The problem is that most people who have written about him had an agenda... I wouldn't trust a US or UK source on the matter simply because it is not in their interests to tell the truth... they can't even be honest about Yemen or Syria or Libya right now.
You don't get to the top by being a nice guy. Bashing a few skulls can be necessary... especially if those a 5th column skulls.
Another factor is that often human nature will take advantage of a situation... look at Afghans... when the Soviets were there they would often help the hated infidel invaders if it meant taking land from a neighbour... in other words the conflict was used to advance their own position in their own little universe.... I would expect foreign spies did what they could to get competent people in Russia eliminated or at least removed to where they could not do any good.
The people who survived the system likely also benefited in some way with rivals removed and paths to advancement made clear, so getting anything like an honest recount would be unlikely.
Western claims would make it appear Stalin killed more Soviets than Hitler did, but that can be immediately dismissed, because just as there were attempts on Hitler there would have been attempts on Stalin if he was seen to be a problem.
You could argue that the entire Russian revolution was created by WWI and WWII was a natural consequence of western inept and depraved actions towards Germany... a country no more at fault for WWI happening than any other country involved, yet they directed all the blame at the Germans and made them responsible for outrageous conditions.
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Ukraine has published its own "White Book" in which it assessed the threats to the country's national security. As follows from this document, Russia is the main threat to Ukraine in all directions.
https://en.topwar.ru/179404-sluzhba-vneshnej-razvedki-ukrainy-nazvala-glavnuju-ugrozu-nacionalnoj-bezopasnosti-strany.html
https://en.topwar.ru/179404-sluzhba-vneshnej-razvedki-ukrainy-nazvala-glavnuju-ugrozu-nacionalnoj-bezopasnosti-strany.html
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George1 wrote:Ukraine has published its own "White Book" in which it assessed the threats to the country's national security. As follows from this document, Russia is the main threat to Ukraine in all directions.
https://en.topwar.ru/179404-sluzhba-vneshnej-razvedki-ukrainy-nazvala-glavnuju-ugrozu-nacionalnoj-bezopasnosti-strany.html
Banderastan is its own worst enemy by a long shot. Their papers, books and whatnot are all rubbish just like their claim that the Russian
army is occupying the Donbass.
Note how Pukeraine gets a pass for grossly violating the Minsk accords. While NATzO propagandists screech at Russia for "failing
to abide by the terms" of these agreements even though Russia is not even involved in them and thus does not have any obligations,
the brazen disregard for these agreements by the Kiev regime is somehow a non story. Just like the shelling of Donbass civilians
by the Kiev regime paramilitary outfits.
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Did Russia ever provide a response to that?
Put up another fence?