Or just a list of all the countries where the US has bombed in the last 80 years and all the countries where Russia has bombed...
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GarryB- Posts : 38982
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Hahahahaah... someone should make a picture like that showing a Russian side and a US side with the Russian side showing Russian troops helping the victims of terrorists in Syria and the US side supplying weapons and support to the terrorists in Syria...
Or just a list of all the countries where the US has bombed in the last 80 years and all the countries where Russia has bombed...
Or just a list of all the countries where the US has bombed in the last 80 years and all the countries where Russia has bombed...
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Werewolf wrote:Isn't that the entrance to Chayenne Mountain Complex?
It sort of looks like it, but it is some road tunnel probably built around the same time. The NORAD complex has
the tunnel protruding out of the mountain:
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GarryB wrote:Hahahahaah... someone should make a picture like that showing a Russian side and a US side with the Russian side showing Russian troops helping the victims of terrorists in Syria and the US side supplying weapons and support to the terrorists in Syria...
Or just a list of all the countries where the US has bombed in the last 80 years and all the countries where Russia has bombed...
The bloody hypocrisy is the thing that really is exceptional!
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GarryB wrote:Hahahahaah... someone should make a picture like that showing a Russian side and a US side with the Russian side showing Russian troops helping the victims of terrorists in Syria and the US side supplying weapons and support to the terrorists in Syria...
Or just a list of all the countries where the US has bombed in the last 80 years and all the countries where Russia has bombed...
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BBC propagandists would have you believe 2 people out of 146 million.
Funny how during the Cold War the 5 story Khurschevka's were used as evidence of the poor quality of life in the USSR
but now are used to bash Russia when they are to be replaced with better housing.
Note how the BBC liar is omitting the detail that the "eviction" is to new and better housing. Some eviction!
Also note how the fact that these 5 story blocks were temoprary is omitted as well.
Nice to see how the real independent journalist from the UK demolishes the BBC propaganda. He also covered the
terror shelling of population centers in the Donbass and gets regularly abused by the British government.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-17/despite-new-tough-sanctions-us-takes-delivery-russian-rocket-engines
Check out the retards posting below this piece. They keep yammering about the poor construction quality of the engines even
though no instances of "loose bolts" failure has been noted by the main user of the RD-180, the Atlas V. This is some
epic indoctrination. Basically, higher level brain function is disabled in these brainwashed loons.
Check out the retards posting below this piece. They keep yammering about the poor construction quality of the engines even
though no instances of "loose bolts" failure has been noted by the main user of the RD-180, the Atlas V. This is some
epic indoctrination. Basically, higher level brain function is disabled in these brainwashed loons.
nomadski- Posts : 2788
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Re: Western propaganda
The western media is controlled by their " intelligence " service . Not just their media aimed at outside country like Russia or Iran or Korea . But domestic radio and TV . These people see themselves as protectors of the realm . The elite . The cultured . Above and beyond the average man on the street . Their politics is entirely unrealistic . Nothing to do with national interest .
But should we complain ? Point out their mistakes ? Or allow them their self delusional window on the world ? I tend to think that it may be better to say nothing . Allow them a free hand . Let them believe in their own lies . And be misguided by them . And let us discover what plots they are up to . Too much criticism of their lies only leads them to correcting their blatant lies . Making them more delicate and believable .
andalusia- Posts : 728
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Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
Sprut-B- Posts : 429
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andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
I don't trust anything BBC says about Russia.
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andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
You are trolling. It is obvious that the NATO MSM peddles all sorts of tin foil hat conspiracy theories about Russia. You can tell
from the lack of motive for most of these fictions (e.g. Litvinenko, Skripal, etc.). However, when it comes to obvious wrong doing
by NATO maggots, then we have screeching about "conspiracy theory". As if the Skripal case is not an obvious case of UK government
conspiracy (look at the timing and the brazen accusations, no effort at objectivity whatsoever even though Scotland Yard was putting
out a totally new theory about the poisoning every week).
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Re: Western propaganda
kvs wrote:andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
You are trolling. It is obvious that the NATO MSM peddles all sorts of tin foil hat conspiracy theories about Russia. You can tell
from the lack of motive for most of these fictions (e.g. Litvinenko, Skripal, etc.). However, when it comes to obvious wrong doing
by NATO maggots, then we have screeching about "conspiracy theory". As if the Skripal case is not an obvious case of UK government
conspiracy (look at the timing and the brazen accusations, no effort at objectivity whatsoever even though Scotland Yard was putting
out a totally new theory about the poisoning every week).
Meddling in the former yugo space is not far from Russian modus operandi. Also, guys in the Ru political system aren't some Vassar College undergraduates, they're cold blooded killers in all respects and wouldn't really hesitate. If you think otherwise, seek help.
PS. President of Montenegro? I think the full title was "Admiral General chief Judge President".
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Sprut-B wrote:andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
I don't trust anything BBC says about Russia.
It is not about trust. It is about the transparent lack of substance in the hate propaganda being peddled by the BBC and the rest
of the NATO MSM. Take the example of the hysterical, full bore lie coverage of the "anti-gay" law around the time of the Sochi
Olympics. The BBC trotted out an activist (Peter Tatchell) for lowering the age of consent for gay sex to pre-teen (i.e. a pedo-queer agenda)
as some expert on gay rights. I guess the stellar intellect management at the BBC linked the content of the Russian law, i.e.
restriction on sex activism towards minors (both straight and gay), and pedophile rights. The BBC never bother to actually
consult Russian gay rights activists who did not subscribe to the NATO propaganda narrative. Instead, the BBC insinuated that
gays would be arrested if they kissed in public. This is not journalism by any stretch of the imagination.
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kvs wrote:Sprut-B wrote:andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
I don't trust anything BBC says about Russia.
It is not about trust. It is about the transparent lack of substance in the hate propaganda being peddled by the BBC and the rest
of the NATO MSM. Take the example of the hysterical, full bore lie coverage of the "anti-gay" law around the time of the Sochi
Olympics. The BBC trotted out an activist (Peter Tatchell) for lowering the age of consent for gay sex to pre-teen (i.e. a pedo-queer agenda)
as some expert on gay rights. I guess the stellar intellect management at the BBC linked the content of the Russian law, i.e.
restriction on sex activism towards minors (both straight and gay), and pedophile rights. The BBC never bother to actually
consult Russian gay rights activists who did not subscribe to the NATO propaganda narrative. Instead, the BBC insinuated that
gays would be arrested if they kissed in public. This is not journalism by any stretch of the imagination.
Like RT or AJ. Nobody watches one medium expecting 100% accuracy. Gone are those days.
Sprut-B- Posts : 429
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kvs wrote:Sprut-B wrote:andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
I don't trust anything BBC says about Russia.
It is not about trust. It is about the transparent lack of substance in the hate propaganda being peddled by the BBC and the rest
of the NATO MSM. Take the example of the hysterical, full bore lie coverage of the "anti-gay" law around the time of the Sochi
Olympics. The BBC trotted out an activist (Peter Tatchell) for lowering the age of consent for gay sex to pre-teen (i.e. a pedo-queer agenda)
as some expert on gay rights. I guess the stellar intellect management at the BBC linked the content of the Russian law, i.e.
restriction on sex activism towards minors (both straight and gay), and pedophile rights. The BBC never bother to actually
consult Russian gay rights activists who did not subscribe to the NATO propaganda narrative. Instead, the BBC insinuated that
gays would be arrested if they kissed in public. This is not journalism by any stretch of the imagination.
It's not only BBC but whole Western MSM propaganda brigade. Have you seen recent news reports in Fox-News? They are also going crazy over Trump & Putin Helsinki summit. It seems no Western News outlet wants USA to have good relations with Russia. Leftists or Conservatives both hates Russia.
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Sprut-B wrote:kvs wrote:Sprut-B wrote:andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
I don't trust anything BBC says about Russia.
It is not about trust. It is about the transparent lack of substance in the hate propaganda being peddled by the BBC and the rest
of the NATO MSM. Take the example of the hysterical, full bore lie coverage of the "anti-gay" law around the time of the Sochi
Olympics. The BBC trotted out an activist (Peter Tatchell) for lowering the age of consent for gay sex to pre-teen (i.e. a pedo-queer agenda)
as some expert on gay rights. I guess the stellar intellect management at the BBC linked the content of the Russian law, i.e.
restriction on sex activism towards minors (both straight and gay), and pedophile rights. The BBC never bother to actually
consult Russian gay rights activists who did not subscribe to the NATO propaganda narrative. Instead, the BBC insinuated that
gays would be arrested if they kissed in public. This is not journalism by any stretch of the imagination.
It's not only BBC but whole Western MSM propaganda brigade. Have you seen recent news reports in Fox-News? They are also going crazy over Trump & Putin Helsinki summit. It seems no Western News outlet wants USA to have good relations with Russia. Leftists or Conservatives both hates Russia.
Indeed. The NATO tribe is jumping around baying for war. For some reason they think that Russia is a weak pushover and that
they will not be glassed. This is what happens when you give the NATO MSM the benefit of the doubt.
andalusia- Posts : 728
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kvs wrote:andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
You are trolling. It is obvious that the NATO MSM peddles all sorts of tin foil hat conspiracy theories about Russia. You can tell
from the lack of motive for most of these fictions (e.g. Litvinenko, Skripal, etc.). However, when it comes to obvious wrong doing
by NATO maggots, then we have screeching about "conspiracy theory". As if the Skripal case is not an obvious case of UK government
conspiracy (look at the timing and the brazen accusations, no effort at objectivity whatsoever even though Scotland Yard was putting
out a totally new theory about the poisoning every week).
I am not trolling this is some more detail information about it:
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russian-military-spies-backed-attempt-assassinate-leader-montenegro-1007324
Sprut-B- Posts : 429
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andalusia wrote:kvs wrote:andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
You are trolling. It is obvious that the NATO MSM peddles all sorts of tin foil hat conspiracy theories about Russia. You can tell
from the lack of motive for most of these fictions (e.g. Litvinenko, Skripal, etc.). However, when it comes to obvious wrong doing
by NATO maggots, then we have screeching about "conspiracy theory". As if the Skripal case is not an obvious case of UK government
conspiracy (look at the timing and the brazen accusations, no effort at objectivity whatsoever even though Scotland Yard was putting
out a totally new theory about the poisoning every week).
I am not trolling this is some more detail information about it:
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russian-military-spies-backed-attempt-assassinate-leader-montenegro-1007324
You are 100% trolling here. The same source that you have posted here are also publishing crazy articles on Russia.
https://www.newsweek.com/russias-pussy-riot-wins-court-case-against-vladimir-putins-government-1028562
andalusia- Posts : 728
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Sprut-B wrote:andalusia wrote:kvs wrote:andalusia wrote:Is it true that Russia was trying to assassinate the President of Montenegro and allow Serbs to control the country to prevent Montenegro from joining NATO? If this is true than Russia is no better than the US. Is it true or propaganda?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37890683
You are trolling. It is obvious that the NATO MSM peddles all sorts of tin foil hat conspiracy theories about Russia. You can tell
from the lack of motive for most of these fictions (e.g. Litvinenko, Skripal, etc.). However, when it comes to obvious wrong doing
by NATO maggots, then we have screeching about "conspiracy theory". As if the Skripal case is not an obvious case of UK government
conspiracy (look at the timing and the brazen accusations, no effort at objectivity whatsoever even though Scotland Yard was putting
out a totally new theory about the poisoning every week).
I am not trolling this is some more detail information about it:
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-russian-military-spies-backed-attempt-assassinate-leader-montenegro-1007324
You are 100% trolling here. The same source that you have posted here are also publishing crazy articles on Russia.
https://www.newsweek.com/russias-pussy-riot-wins-court-case-against-vladimir-putins-government-1028562
Sprut-B: The reason why I brought this topic up was because I heard about the assassination attempt on MSNBC. The man that was saying it sound quite convincing. I wanted people's opinion on this because I believe you guys would know more than me. If what you posted about pussy riot is true, than the Western media has reached a new low in portraying Russia in this negative of a light. I knew they hated Russia but I didn't think they hated them this much.
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Re: Western propaganda
Since this topic is so much about western propaganda, how do you stand towards russian propaganda?
Usually the truth always is in the middle, so i would like to hear your opinion about bullshit spread by RT and such other propaganda chanels
Usually the truth always is in the middle, so i would like to hear your opinion about bullshit spread by RT and such other propaganda chanels
andalusia- Posts : 728
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Aristide wrote:Since this topic is so much about western propaganda, how do you stand towards russian propaganda?
Usually the truth always is in the middle, so i would like to hear your opinion about bullshit spread by RT and such other propaganda chanels
While I concur that the truth is usually in the middle. American propaganda is very sophisticated; you should read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/russia/comments/5hnlnz/fake_news_and_american_vs_russian_propaganda/
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Since this topic is so much about western propaganda, how do you stand towards russian propaganda?
This thread is about western propaganda, if you want to talk about russian propaganda then another thread on such a topic would be more appropriate.
Sadly I think the Russians are very poor at propaganda... we constantly see the west talking about Russia annexing the Crimea... but no mention of western annexations.. Golan Heights, Falkland Islands, Northern Cyprus, Guam, the Marshall Islands, etc etc etc.
The reality is that through the centuries Crimea has changed hands multiple times... all at the point of a sword, or the muzzle of a gun... this was actually the first time its status was actually decided by the ballot box... you would think the west would be celebrating such a development... but as we saw all the protests when Trump won the election in the US... democracy is only good when your side wins... otherwise it was those sneaky nigger Russians.
BTW you can't call anyone a nigger, lets be clear, but as we can see men with Vaginas or women with Penises and things with neither who haven't decided yet cannot be besmerched or offended, but you can say Russians are genetically programmed to do bad things and be bad people and no one says a word... So I suspect we can all call Russians niggers... but no one else can be called niggers.
The reason I say this is because there are a group of people who really suffered and for them nigger is a deeply offensive word, yet the vast majority of people jumping up and down and being offended are white people who have never been called nigger, or suffered from the prejudice that comes with being categorised that way.
It wasn't being called a nigger that was a problem for coloured people... it was being treated worse than an animal that was the actual problem.
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U.S. officials suspect Russia in mystery 'attacks' on diplomats in Cuba, China
The strong suspicion that Russia was behind the alleged attacks is backed by signals intelligence, meaning intercepted communications, say U.S. officials.
WASHINGTON — Intelligence agencies investigating mysterious "attacks" that led to brain injuries in U.S. personnel in Cuba and China consider Russia to be the main suspect, three U.S. officials and two others briefed on the investigation tell NBC News.
The suspicion that Russia is likely behind the alleged attacks is backed up by evidence from communications intercepts, known in the spy world as signals intelligence, amassed during a lengthy and ongoing investigation involving the FBI, the CIA and other U.S. agencies. The officials declined to elaborate on the nature of the intelligence.
The evidence is not yet conclusive enough, however, for the U.S. to formally assign blame to Moscow for incidents that started in late 2016 and have continued in 2018, causing a major rupture in U.S.-Cuba relations.
Since last year, the U.S. military has been working to reverse-engineer the weapon or weapons used to harm the diplomats, according to Trump administration officials, congressional aides and others briefed on the investigation, including by testing various devices on animals. As part of that effort, the U.S. has turned to the Air Force and its directed energy research program at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico, where the military has giant lasers and advanced laboratories to test high-power electromagnetic weapons, including microwaves.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latin-america/u-s-officials-suspect-russia-mystery-attacks-diplomats-cuba-china-n908141
The strong suspicion that Russia was behind the alleged attacks is backed by signals intelligence, meaning intercepted communications, say U.S. officials.
WASHINGTON — Intelligence agencies investigating mysterious "attacks" that led to brain injuries in U.S. personnel in Cuba and China consider Russia to be the main suspect, three U.S. officials and two others briefed on the investigation tell NBC News.
The suspicion that Russia is likely behind the alleged attacks is backed up by evidence from communications intercepts, known in the spy world as signals intelligence, amassed during a lengthy and ongoing investigation involving the FBI, the CIA and other U.S. agencies. The officials declined to elaborate on the nature of the intelligence.
The evidence is not yet conclusive enough, however, for the U.S. to formally assign blame to Moscow for incidents that started in late 2016 and have continued in 2018, causing a major rupture in U.S.-Cuba relations.
Since last year, the U.S. military has been working to reverse-engineer the weapon or weapons used to harm the diplomats, according to Trump administration officials, congressional aides and others briefed on the investigation, including by testing various devices on animals. As part of that effort, the U.S. has turned to the Air Force and its directed energy research program at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico, where the military has giant lasers and advanced laboratories to test high-power electromagnetic weapons, including microwaves.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latin-america/u-s-officials-suspect-russia-mystery-attacks-diplomats-cuba-china-n908141
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Ohhh come on... If the Russians could do that why bother with US diplomats... Hilary would be target number one wouldn't she?
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Re: Western propaganda
Just discovered this an would like people's thoughts on this article about Soviet invasion plans of Western Europe:
https://historicaltruthproject.com/2010/08/31/46/
https://historicaltruthproject.com/2010/08/31/46/
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Soviet "invasion" plans largely consisted of sending a large force of ground troops whose advance is largely covered by thousands of tactical nuclear weapon detonations to pave their way to destroy NATO... I use ""s on invasion because there would be no occupation... the levels of radiation would preclude occupation...
I was about destroying the west, not conquering it... pretty obvious really... they had nothing like the logistics needed for the operation... and I dare say current Russian plans are not much different... destroy a threat...
I was about destroying the west, not conquering it... pretty obvious really... they had nothing like the logistics needed for the operation... and I dare say current Russian plans are not much different... destroy a threat...