3M22 Zircon Hypersonic Cruise Missile

Big_Gazza wrote:Funniest thing is to read the absolute denial of the idiots who comment!!!  These fukwitz think that snarky jealous comments will somehow defeat hypersonic scram-jet powered missiles?  LOL!!!!  This ain't the incompetent F-35...  

This sort of knee-jerk dismissal of the ability of others to develop effective weapons and even win the biggest war in history
is what comes from exceptionaist idiots who never lived through any major war of note and who have been brainwashed
for two centuries at least that they are special and have a "manifest destiny". Nobody ever disabused them of their rotten
ego-trip delusions. They laugh because they are experiencing severe cognitive dissonance.

mnztr wrote:

Hole wrote:Huge mistake in the video. The guy claims that Sarmat is a "normal ballistic missile" like Minutemen III.

Sarmat is just the launch vehicle no? Its Avangard that is the glider. Sarmat, however is a pretty special launcher. While the Minuteman can deliver warheads, Sarmat has more range so it can take any path to the target. I have also read it has an immensely powerful first stage so that it is much less vulnerable during the boost phase. It gets higher much faster and gets to hypersonic speed much more quickly.

Actually, the Sarmat and other Russian ICBMs engage in non-ballistic flight before even releasing their payloads. The Minuteman III is an ancient system with a much smaller range than the Sarmat and which lacks any
serious non-ballistic flight ability.

The combined Sarmat plus Avangard glider warheads allow the ICBM to be fired in any direction and to circle the globe to reach their target. The glider extends the effective range by thousands of kilometers. It is the
first ICBM that can be launched over the South Pole to hit Northern Hemisphere targets. The Wiki claim of an 18,000 km range is BS. Russia releases legitimate information about its systems. It is NATzO freaks who
always claim Russia is lying. As if lying achieves anything outside of "soft power" brainwashing. NATzO is the real collection of liars since that is their primary geopolitical shtick.

The claim that Aegis can enable the shooting down of Mach 3 targets is propaganda BS. Like the retarded Bell-Textron video showing some attack helicopters taking out
T-14 tanks without any effort. Pap for morons.

The precious US Aegis will not be operating unhindered in any real war of aggression on Russia. It will be subject to ECW and will not have anywhere near the claimed
performance of staged tests.

GarryB wrote:A mach 3 drone is not the same as a mach 8 plus target actively trying to evade an air defence system.

The Americans are not renowned for making their tests hard for their systems to pass.... in fact sometimes when they don't pass they change the parameters so they do pass...

It was a maneuvering target? The US had a problem intercepting targets based on Ch 31.

If they had Mach 3 manouvering targets they would not have needed to buy Kh-31s and call them MA-31s.

Would not surprise me if the Mach 3 drone was a Standard II missile fired from another ship on a preprogrammed path to simulate what they think a Russian anti ship missile will do... its ability to manouver of course would not be that great...

They stage these tests, make lots of noise and then forget about them. Just like with the kinetic kill ABM wunderwaffen which is fading into oblivion. Some of these
clowns are competent enough to know that any ABM would require nuclear warheads to even have a fraction of a chance. So we have the tearing up of the
INF treaty.

America has no defence against Russian anti-ship missiles. And none of the Russian missiles are Mach 3. The supersonic variants have
Mach 4.7 terminal impact regimes. The hypersonic Kinzhal is a Mach 10 missile.

Isos wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GQM-163_Coyote

They use the Coyote target missile that goes at mach 2.6 at very low altitude and mach 3-4 at high altitude.

It simulates russian supersonic missiles much better than the old soviet missiles used as a target simulate western missiles during russian tests.

So this target does the inverse of what Russian supersonic (not hypersonic) missiles do. They do not slow down when entering the final stage
of their attack flight, they dive at maximum Mach deliberately to overcome CIWS defences and to get more kinetic energy damage.

BTW, Wikicrapia has total BS numbers. It claims the Onyx does only Mach 2. WTF. That would qualify it as a marginally supersonic weapon.
NATzO propagandists need to stop drinking their own retard koolaid.