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    3M22 Zircon Hypersonic Cruise Missile

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    Post  kvs on Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:53 pm

    Isos wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GQM-163_Coyote

    They use the Coyote target missile that goes at mach 2.6 at very low altitude and mach 3-4 at high altitude.

    It simulates russian supersonic missiles much better than the old soviet missiles used as a target simulate western missiles during russian tests.

    So this target does the inverse of what Russian supersonic (not hypersonic) missiles do. They do not slow down when entering the final stage
    of their attack flight, they dive at maximum Mach deliberately to overcome CIWS defences and to get more kinetic energy damage.

    BTW, Wikicrapia has total BS numbers. It claims the Onyx does only Mach 2. WTF. That would qualify it as a marginally supersonic weapon.
    NATzO propagandists need to stop drinking their own retard koolaid.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:19 am

    Isos wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GQM-163_Coyote

    They use the Coyote target missile that goes at mach 2.6 at very low altitude and mach 3-4 at high altitude.

    It simulates russian supersonic missiles much better than the old soviet missiles used as a target simulate western missiles during russian tests.

    Meanwhile they have this target drone in service, but their navy has lacked all forms of supersonic AshM's in service....doesn't that strike people quite odd? pwnd That's like having the ability to shoot down satellites (ASAT) but completely lack the ability to launch satellites in to orbit! clown lol1 Those drones also lack swarming wolf-pack algorithms that Federation AshM's have, despite the fact that Uncle Sham has advertised ad nauseam about their ability to create swarming drones. pwnd Embarassed  They also lack the ECM capabilities of Federation AshM's, such as reflecting their radar image off the surface of the ocean.Razz They also lack their gimbaled thrust vectoring exhaust nozzles found on Federation AshM's. Wink They also lack the titanium armor some Federation AshM's have. No Or the range. unshaven Or the obscuring stealth elements of their launch vehicles that Federation systems like Bastion and Bal come equipped with. dunno
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    Post  Isos on Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:25 am

    What do you know about western missiles ? You think they keep improving them for over 70 years to just to add few tens of km ?

    Built in test equipment in the ships can simulate even more a typical russian attack, not perfectly but that's still better than what russia does buy using outdated coastal missile as a target to test its defences.

    BTW, Wikicrapia has total BS numbers. It claims the Onyx does only Mach 2. WTF. That would qualify it as a marginally supersonic weapon.
    NATzO propagandists need to stop drinking their own retard koolaid.

    http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-systems/shipborne-weapons/yakhont/

    Official number. 680m/s at low altitude which is mach 2. Maybe you should stop drinking your own propaganda.

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    Post  Singular_Transform on Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:55 am

    Isos wrote:What do you know about western missiles ? You think they keep improving them for over 70 years to just to add few tens of km ?

    Built in test equipment in the ships can simulate even more a typical russian attack, not perfectly but that's still better than what russia does buy using outdated coastal missile as a target to test its defences.

    BTW, Wikicrapia has total BS numbers. It claims the Onyx does only Mach 2. WTF. That would qualify it as a marginally supersonic weapon.
    NATzO propagandists need to stop drinking their own retard koolaid.

    http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-systems/shipborne-weapons/yakhont/

    Official number. 680m/s at low altitude which is mach 2. Maybe you should stop drinking your own propaganda.

    It translate to match 5+ at 24+ km high.

    And it is most possible the full fuel load speed, with partial load it is higher.

    And of course the USA military is the single one that share false performance numbers, the Russians gives correct data.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:36 pm

    They use the Coyote target missile that goes at mach 2.6 at very low altitude and mach 3-4 at high altitude.

    It simulates russian supersonic missiles much better than the old soviet missiles used as a target simulate western missiles during russian tests.

    It is essentially a Kh-31 attached to the same booster rocket used for the Standard naval SAMs in the long range versions.

    The Coyote target was created after they got their hands on Kh-31 and is a copy... and mach 4 my arse... why would they describe it as a mach 3 target if it can go mach 4?

    Mach 3 is the speed the Kh-31 moves at BTW... perhaps mach 4 is to pretend they made any changes to it at all...

    The original competition for a new target missile was written specifically in the hopes of getting the Russians to offer Moskit, which is what they really wanted to get their hands on. Russians weren't that stupid... they offered an early model Kh-31 knowing it met all the criteria of the competition and was superior to the proposed American alternatives that existed mainly on paper.

    It was like Russian rocket engines... they were not happy buying them because they were sure American technology and knowhow could do better, but there wasn't anything better.

    The solution has been a copy of the Soviet missile mounted on a standard US solid rocket booster used for long range Naval SAMs for the past few decades...

    Their target used for training is their most potent anti ship weapon...

    Official number. 680m/s at low altitude which is mach 2. Maybe you should stop drinking your own propaganda.

    For the export model. The domestic model will have other penetration equipment like jammers and decoys it can deploy and of course it will be manouvering... and most likely the warhead will be armoured.

    It translate to match 5+ at 24+ km high.

    With new high energy fuel then possibly, but not likely deployed yet.
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