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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #14

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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:30 pm

    There does seem to be a steady increase in Russian, Army in particular, involvement going on very quietly in the background. Nothing big, nothing announced, just more Russians popping up all over the place. They could of course be the same ones rushing around the country for different photo ops but somehow I doubt it. Also the Syrian Express grinds relentlessly on.


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    Russia is strengthening military forces in northern Syria
    Many military equipment reaches Ain Issa and Tel Abyad area

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    The Arab army to be formed in the east of the Euphrates very soon is a Russian-American agreement.


    Are they interesting?

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    Russians near Idlib in interesting uniforms



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    Post  Isos on Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:28 pm

    I guess they took advantage of the oil war to reach an agreement with US and we will see them leave for a whatever reason but they will keep it out of the sptlight.

    Trump isn't particularly interested in staying there too. It woukd be a win-win situation.
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    Post  flamming_python on Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:18 pm

    Isos wrote:I guess they took advantage of the oil war to reach an agreement with US and we will see them leave for a whatever reason but they will keep it out of the sptlight.

    Trump isn't particularly interested in staying there too. It woukd be a win-win situation.

    Never count on the US to conclude a win-win for anything.

    Even if Trump is a fan of that, the establishment there aren't. They only want a win for themselves, and believe they have endless strength enough to achieve it.
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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:45 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Never count on the US to conclude a win-win for anything.

    Even if Trump is a fan of that, the establishment there aren't. They only want a win for themselves, and believe they have endless strength enough to achieve it.

    Blow the infrastructure on the way out perhaps.
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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:52 pm

    Haven't seen many of these in Syria

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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:05 am

    More perhaps going in just in case or maybe others will go with the Tu-154M when she returns home.

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    Russian Air Force Tu-154M [RA-8504] apparently on an escort flight for a bunch of bomber/fighter jets from Astrakhan to Hmeymim on the shortcut Caspian route via northern Iran/Iraq yesterday
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    Post  Isos on Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:09 am

    It was confirmed by this official account.

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    #Russia enforced its aerial arsenal in #Syria in the last couple days

    Before the previous US elections Russia did the same, but this time is different the #US is few hundred kilometers away also in Syria.


    And this could be why :


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    And Turkey lost many drone in Lybia, plus they are affected by covid-19 so they could resist an offebsive by SAA supported by Russia.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:49 am

    Isos wrote:

    And Turkey lost many drone in Lybia, plus they are affected by covid-19 so they could resist an offebsive by SAA supported by Russia.

    This last week Canada has apparently started to embargo military exports to Turkey (assume due to Libya) and that includes the optics module used on some of their drones.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:27 pm

    The Syrian Express, Civilian Flotilla, in action today. Sparta 11 very heavily laden transiting southbound today, not a lot of freeboard.

    Carrying lots of containers on the top deck and who know what on the lower deck. Lots of happy faces when all thousands of tons of it arrive at their destinations.


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    Post  Hole on Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:15 pm

    Para-military flotilla. Very Happy
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:16 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Isos wrote:

    And Turkey lost many drone in Lybia, plus they are affected by covid-19 so they could resist an offebsive by SAA supported by Russia.

    This last week Canada has apparently started to embargo military exports to Turkey (assume due to Libya) and that includes the optics module used on some of their drones.

    Turkish drones use Rotax engines from Canada. Canada banned engine to Turkish drones. A drone they lose is a drone they can't replace.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:58 pm

    ultimatewarrior wrote:
    Turkish drones use Rotax engines from Canada. Canada banned engine to Turkish drones. A drone they lose is a drone they can't replace.

    Not necessarily, they have almost certainly got a stock of spare engines. Plus there is the black market.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:39 pm

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    Post  Isos on Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:42 am

    Turkish mrap behind a btr-80. You can spot the difference in size that makes the mrap an easy target for any atgm out there.

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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:51 am

    Isos wrote:Turkish mrap behind a btr-80. You can spot the difference in size that makes the mrap an easy target for any atgm out there.

    Yes, but they had different design requirements. The MRAP, just look at its V bottom, is designed primarily to resist IEDs or mines. The BTR is a battlefield troop transport where a low profile reduces visibility to ATGM teams.

    In this scenario one of them will be the right one. The crews hopes its theirs.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:31 am

    Russian air force fly over M4 highway. Shoot at Russians and see what happens. Cool

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    Post  JohninMK on Mon May 04, 2020 1:15 am

    Interesting meetings yesterday. The two senior Russian Generals in Syria out and about. What the hell was an VDV Major General doing on a rural road in eastern Syria?

    The Colonel General with friends

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    That is Colonel General Evgeny Ustinov, the Chief of Staff of the VDV. He was formerly the CoS of the Central Military District and for Russian Forces in Syria in 2016-2017. Seems likely he replaced Chayko as commander of Russian Forces in Syria.


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    Whilst another was visiting not so friends, but who clearly knew how senior he was with the American (officer due to side arm?) saluting him.

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    The senior Russian officer at that encounter between US and Russian forces at Tannuriyah yesterday was Major General Anatoly Kontsevoy, the deputy commander of the VDV and the former commander of the VDV's 45th Spetsnaz Brigade and RGVVDKU. 259/
    https://vk.com/russian_sof?z=


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    These are the comments at the VK thread, Yandex translated.

    Special divisions of Russia | SPR
    four hours ago
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    Meeting on El-Qamishli

    A soldier of the SPN of the Russian armed forces during the blocking of the us column.
    Neighborhood Of Qamishli, Syria.

    In the center of the cap stands major General Anatoly Kontsevoy. From 2002 to 2006, he was the commander of the 45th ORP of the airborne forces, and later headed the RVVDKU. At the moment, he is the Deputy commander of the Russian airborne forces.

    May 2, 2020

    That it's a semaphore?

    Ilya Nikitarovich
    It seems the American knows who is standing in front of him. Here I really did not understand, is he reporting or just decided to scratch the turnip? 🤔

    one hour ago
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    Ilya, why the hell would he scratch his helmet?

    37 minutes ago
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    Tough guy)
    A very piercing look)
    Comrade miricales in any little podobrala)
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon May 04, 2020 1:26 am

    Do these look like incoming Russians to you guys? Disembarking from a Syrian Express ship. Saratov?


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    Post  franco on Mon May 04, 2020 1:55 am

    Could be just an unit rotation although have seen other sources saying there has been an increase in forces.
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Mon May 04, 2020 8:46 am

    JohninMK wrote:Interesting meetings yesterday. The two senior Russian Generals in Syria out and about. What the hell was an VDV Major General doing on a rural road in eastern Syria?

    The Colonel General with friends

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    That is Colonel General Evgeny Ustinov, the Chief of Staff of the VDV. He was formerly the CoS of the Central Military District and for Russian Forces in Syria in 2016-2017. Seems likely he replaced Chayko as commander of Russian Forces in Syria.


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    Whilst another was visiting not so friends, but who clearly knew how senior he was with the American (officer due to  side arm?) saluting him.

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    The senior Russian officer at that encounter between US and Russian forces at Tannuriyah yesterday was Major General Anatoly Kontsevoy, the deputy commander of the VDV and the former commander of the VDV's 45th Spetsnaz Brigade and RGVVDKU. 259/
    https://vk.com/russian_sof?z=


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    Special divisions of Russia | SPR
    four hours ago
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    #Photos@russian_sof

    Meeting on El-Qamishli

    A soldier of the SPN of the Russian armed forces during the blocking of the us column.
    Neighborhood Of Qamishli, Syria.

    In the center of the cap stands major General Anatoly Kontsevoy. From 2002 to 2006, he was the commander of the 45th ORP of the airborne forces, and later headed the RVVDKU. At the moment, he is the Deputy commander of the Russian airborne forces.

    May 2, 2020

    That it's a semaphore?

    Ilya Nikitarovich
    It seems the American knows who is standing in front of him. Here I really did not understand, is he reporting or just decided to scratch the turnip? 🤔

    one hour ago
    Danil Kostandov

    Ilya, why the hell would he scratch his helmet?

    37 minutes ago
    Maxim Romanovich

    Tough guy)
    A very piercing look)
    Comrade miricales in any little podobrala)

    still think they should be wearing body armour, helmet, and armoured vehicle such as Tigr-M etc etc. still cant be sure everything is safe and everyone is who they are, it only takes a spy or suicide bomber to end the life of one of these important people.
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon May 04, 2020 10:49 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:

    still think they should be wearing body armour, helmet, and armoured vehicle such as Tigr-M etc etc. still cant be sure everything is safe and everyone is who they are, it only takes a  spy or suicide bomber to end the life of one of these important people.

    The Colonel General is following the RA's standard operating procedure in Syria of treating the population in the same way as the SAA Generals and soldiers, that is as friends who are not about to attack them. You can see how well it works. Compare and contrast with the US military leaders, who will only venture out like that when surrounded several deep by bodyguards, whilst the Russians have them they are few and well back. This is seriously deep penetration of Syrian society. Something the US in the ME can now only dream of.

    On the other hand, given his shape I'd say that the Major General was wearing armour and he needs it, he is not with friends. It is a pity there seems to be no wide angle or helpful shot as to what the surrounds look like but we can put money on him certainly and the CG probably, traveling in something armoured.

    Still puzzled by a Russian 2* being where he was, meeting a US 2* perhaps? There has certainly been a lot of US helicopter movements in the area lately.
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Mon May 04, 2020 1:12 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:

    still think they should be wearing body armour, helmet, and armoured vehicle such as Tigr-M etc etc. still cant be sure everything is safe and everyone is who they are, it only takes a  spy or suicide bomber to end the life of one of these important people.

    The Colonel General is following the RA's standard operating procedure in Syria of treating the population in the same way as the SAA Generals and soldiers, that is as friends who are not about to attack them. You can see how well it works. Compare and contrast with the US military leaders, who will only venture out like that when surrounded several deep by bodyguards, whilst the Russians have them they are few and well back. This is seriously deep penetration of Syrian society. Something the US in the ME can now only dream of.

    On the other hand, given his shape I'd say that the Major General was wearing armour and he needs it, he is not with friends. It is a pity there seems to be no wide angle or helpful shot as to what the surrounds look like but we can put money on him certainly and the CG probably, traveling in something armoured.

    Still puzzled by a Russian 2* being where he was, meeting a US 2* perhaps? There has certainly been a lot of US helicopter movements in the area lately.
    never said he had to be armed, a helmet is logical they aren't free from mortar attacks. Locals by now are use to the army and they already know how much help and support and aid Russia has given them not wearing a helmet or body armour wouldn't make a difference to locals. Follow examples of SAA and Iranian generals........ and how many of them have been killed which could have been prevented. Issam zahreddine sadly killed my a leftover landmine this could have been prevented had area been checked. So if areas haven't been checked or areas infiltrated then any protection is welcome, lock southern Syria a fairly high level officer and governor killed in an area liberated over a year were killed recently. I highly doubt a death of a high ranking Russian general is worth the risk for something such as silly as not wearing a helmet and body armour to appease an image for the locals who aren't bothered by it. The reason the USA aren't liked is because USA has slapped sanctions on Syria causing suffering to locals and have backed terror groups who have abused killed tortured pillaged and raped the locals, locals don't forget who is behind these groups and who funded them. That's where the locals ain't happy with USA. Having served in NI and many of my friends serving in Iraq and Afghanistan the locals don't care what u wear they care more about what u can give them in form of aid etc.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon May 04, 2020 3:54 pm

    "Kurdish kids throwing rocks at the US military vehicles from behind a Russian BTR (Armored Personnel Carrier)"
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon May 04, 2020 4:42 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:"Kurdish kids throwing rocks at the US military vehicles from behind a Russian BTR (Armored Personnel Carrier)"

    I think that the video you posted and my Major General photo are the same incident, the two figures on the left of my picture seem to be in the video. If so all may not be what it seems.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon May 04, 2020 4:48 pm

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