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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #14

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    Post  JohninMK Wed May 17, 2023 11:15 am

    It seems that the reason for the long detour was US pressure on countries to close their airspace to RuAF traffic, not the aircraft contents.

    Meanwhile, upping pressure on the US forces

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:43 am

    Something brewing? Second front for the US perhaps?

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    Reports of a large Russian military convoy heading towards the east of Deir ez-Zor governorate, Syria, amidst news of Iranian military equipment arrived at the area, coinciding with a wide deployment of the Syrian 17th Infantry Division on the bank of the Euphrates.

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    Post  Hole Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:54 pm

    In the meantime Russia is bombing the shit out of the HTS in northern Idlib for a few days now.
    Some syrian accounts on Twitter are reporting that.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jul 06, 2023 12:08 pm

    Non lethal aggression taken to new heights Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jul 06, 2023 12:28 pm

    Parachuted flare?!?
    Never heard of it in a context different to illumination.
    How Su-35 is supposed to carry those, or why should it?

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:57 pm

    Those pesky Russian pilots are at it again Very Happy

    The Pentagon has announced a new major incident involving Russia over the skies of Syria, after a string of hostile close encounters between Russian fighter jets and US drones which were ostensibly conducting 'counter-ISIS' missions.

    The military says a US MQ-9 Reaper drone was damaged after being intercepted and harassed by an Su-35 fighter, during which time the Russian warplane released flares close to the American drone.
    Stillframe of a previous Russian jet intercept of a US drone over Syria.

    Only unveiled Tuesday, which included release of video of the incident, the encounter happened Sunday, presumably over or near eastern Syria, where Washington has for years maintained a troop presence, and has occupied Syria's oil and gas fields.

    US officials say a Russian and Iranian campaign is in full swing towards pressuring the US to retreat from the region and halt its military operations. Russian intercepts of US drones have now occurred several times over the last months, with the US each time condemning "unsafe" and "irresponsible", threatening maneuvers.

    Concerning the new incident, "The U.S. drone managed to limp back to its base in the region but its propeller was damaged, according to U.S. officials who issued photos and video of the encounter," writes The Wall Street Journal. The military statement described the drone as "severely damaged"—which is a significant first in Syria.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-reaper-drone-severely-damaged-russian-jet-intercept-over-syria

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:19 am

    Non lethal aggression taken to new heights

    According to the Russians those American drones are flying where they shouldn't and in airspace closed for exercises for Syrian and Russian aircraft so essentially what that behaviour by the Russian pilots equates to is a US police officer getting an illegal gathering of people to move on... using non lethal force and the US are ignoring them and complaining that they are violating rights they don't actually have. The US has no rights to operate in that airspace.

    The way the US is complaining you would think the Russian pilots acted like real US police officers.... ie tackling them to the ground and kneeling on their throats and putting them in handcuffs behind their backs.

    Parachuted flare?!?
    Never heard of it in a context different to illumination.
    How Su-35 is supposed to carry those, or why should it?

    I haven't seen that before, but it does actually make sense. Old IR guided missiles could be distracted by a flare, but then they improved them and they stopped chasing the hottest thing they could see so you had to fire quite a few to give it a range of choices. New missiles don't look for the hottest spots on aircraft and go for IR patterns so a group of flares holding shape by remaining in formation would better simulate the IR signature of an aircraft than individual flares whose pattern will change as they fall.

    US officials say a Russian and Iranian campaign is in full swing towards pressuring the US to retreat from the region and halt its military operations.

    And why wouldn't they do that, the US is pretending to be fighting terrorism but is in fact stealing oil instead.

    Concerning the new incident, "The U.S. drone managed to limp back to its base in the region but its propeller was damaged, according to U.S. officials who issued photos and video of the encounter," writes The Wall Street Journal. The military statement described the drone as "severely damaged"—which is a significant first in Syria.

    Maybe the US should stop flying drones over territory that is not US territory or international air space.

    Telling the same story again that the propeller of the drone was damaged, but this time not showing it because it didn't happen again, but the last time they claimed it happened they showed video of a different drone with a damaged propeller.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:26 pm

    Interesting move. Send your battle hardened troops for a rest in the sunshine, teaching the locals. Very Happy

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    Escalation in Syria: Russian Troop Arrival Amidst Tensions

    In a recent development this month, a substantial deployment of approximately a thousand Russian troops has been reported to have landed in Syria, marking a significant expansion of the country's military presence in the region. Despite challenges posed by reported Israeli airstrikes on runways at both the Damascus and Aleppo airports in Syria, the arrival of the troops seems to underline Moscow's persistent commitment to combatting terrorism and securing its strategic interests in the Middle East.

    Russian military bases in the Arab Republic have long served as a gateway to Africa, emphasizing the country's continued influence in the region. The recent troop transfer comes amidst ongoing conflicts, including the Palestinian-Israeli tensions and the persisting war in Ukraine, indicating Russia's unwavering focus on sustaining its anti-terrorism efforts.

    Furthermore, the maneuver suggests that the Russian armed forces possess adequate resources to replace the Private Military Contractors (PMCs) that were once stationed in Syria, highlighting the depth of Russia's military capabilities in the volatile region.

    Meanwhile, the US Department of Defense has reiterated its position on the presence of several hundred fighters affiliated with the Russian private military company Wagner in Syria. Speaking at a meeting with the Washington-based Defense Writers Group, Lieutenant General Alexus Grinkevich, the commander of the US Central Command (CENTCOM) Air Force, emphasized the stability of the Wagner forces in the area, indicating a consistent presence over the past few months.

    As tensions continue to simmer in the Middle East, the recent troop deployment has raised concerns over the potential implications for the region's stability and the ongoing geopolitical dynamics.
    Source: Slavyangrad

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:53 am

    They really are having to take the long way round now

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    Post  TMA1 Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:52 am

    Ugh the insidious and slithery turks. Same with the Kazakhstanis and Azeris. Pan turkish nonsense being fostered by western NGOs and turkish foundations. Aided by turkish and israeli intelligence.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:32 am

    The more they make themselves the problem the more incentive for Russia to take steps to remove that problem.

    Removing US forces from Syria and Iraq will remain priorities because of US behaviour and actions... Russia has put up with a lot of bad behaviour from the west over the decades but now they are waking up to realise being nice and being civil are not respected in the west, in fact they see it as a sign of weakness to be abused and taken advantage of, so what sort of future relations with Russia can the west now expect having taught them this lesson?

    I don't think the west realises the bed it has made for itself and further down the track when western economies collapse and there is serious disruption for people in the west I really don't think Russia and China and other countries they use and abuse will forget very quickly what you do when a country shows weakness that has abused you in the past.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:48 am

    Commentators seem to be making a big deal of this. Jumping to the conclusion that these are Russian operated systems. There is no confirmation of that.



    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Russian anti-aircraft missile systems Pantsir-S have shot down ten guided bombs and three cruise missiles launched by the Israeli air force towards Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry's Center for Reconciliation of Opposing Sides in Syria said on Friday.

    "The air defense forces on duty shot down 10 guided bombs and three cruise missiles, using Russian-made Pantsir-S systems. As a result of the Israeli air strikes, military infrastructure was damaged. There were no casualties," Vadim Kulit, deputy head of the center, told a press briefing.

    Earlier on Thursday and Friday, the Israeli forces launched strikes on Damascus and the southern region of Syria. The Syrian Defense Ministry reported that the air defenses shot down several missiles. According to the statement, the attack resulted in material damage, with no casualties reported.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:41 pm

    Been there a while but an interesting Russian move to seemingly and gradually bolster its support in this area.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:42 pm

    The Russian Ministry of Defense announced the start of military air patrols along the disengagement line between Syria and the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel, in southern Syria.

    The Deputy Head of the Russian Center for Reconciliation (affiliated with the Ministry of Defense), Admiral Vadim Kulit, stated that the Russian air forces began air patrols along the “Bravo Line” that divides the Golan Heights between Syria and Israel.

    According to what was reported by the Russian news agency (TASS) yesterday evening, Thursday, January 18, the objective of the patrols is to monitor the situation along the disengagement line between the two sides.

    Kulit said that the aviation units of the Russian Aerospace Forces organized air patrols along the disengagement line known as the “Bravo Line.”

    The patrols came days after the Russian Defense Ministry announced the deployment of two new points in the occupied Syrian Golan to monitor the ceasefire between Syria and Israel.

    On January 3, Admiral Vadim Kulit stated that his country had established two military points in southern Syria against the backdrop of increasing provocations in the “demilitarized zone.”

    TASS reported at the time that the new points were stationed with units of the Russian military police to “monitor the ceasefire.”

    After an absence of more than a year, Russia resumed its military patrols in southern Syria at the beginning of November 2023, as a Russian military patrol traveled south of Quneitra between Mualaqah and Ghadir al-Bustan, near the Safra company belonging to the 90th Brigade south of the governorate belonging to the regime’s army.

    https://english.enabbaladi.net/archives/2024/01/russia-announces-air-patrols-over-golan-borders/

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:53 am

    The RuAF are patrolling the blue UN area

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:03 pm

    Wonder if this is within the US 'protected' area?

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:02 pm

    Perhaps, following Putin's comments, Syria will be an area for enhanced supply of weapons. 

    Clearly there is a need for them both to help eject the US and to stop IAF incursions.


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:39 pm

    Nah, it's time to finish the Idlib terrorist enclave once and for all.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:55 am

    The way the US works I would say it is very much in Russias interests to hit Idlib...

    Don't doubt for a second that the US hasn't gone to Idlib and said to these battle harded Anti Assad terrorists and said... we helped you try to defeat Assad and it was only the Russians that stopped you so why don't you go to the Ukraine and kill some Russians.

    Those Syrians wont realise that the US is desperate for cannon fodder in Ukraine because its primary source... which we were told would never run out BTW, is running out.

    That 61 billion was not about buying weapons and ammo... it was about hiring mercenaries to go and fill the gaps in Ukraines lines... 3/4ths of the money probably went to the US MIC to set up production to replace all the old weapons and equipment and ex cold war soviet stuff in the eastern european arsenals... but that wont make any difference for 5 years or more... the remaining money is bribes and kickbacks and money to hire cannon fodder to kill Russian soldiers in the Ukraine... and the problem for them is gathering a whole range of nutters together to fight the Russians is going to lead to favouritism and infighting... those nazi leaders in Kievs army will happily send non whites to their deaths... they will consider it a duty... but how will all these groups feel about being used up this way... especially when all their money gets stolen anyway...

    Hitting Idlib will make any "volunteers" from this region homesick and want to go home to deal with issues there.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 07, 2024 9:29 am

    Regarding the drone incidents above it is probably necessary to start talking about drone interceptions and drone to aircraft protocol.

    A fighter detects an air target near a exercise or near airspace that is restricted for one reason or another... the fighter flys out to the air target and finds it is a drone.

    Now the US complains that flares are dropped and fuel is dumped and aircraft manouver into the path of the drone to upset its flight but presumably there is no radio on board the drone and therefore no way for the fighters to order it to change direction or to land, so apart from such actions there is shooting it down.

    What would the US prefer?

    What they call risky manouvers, or getting their drone shot down... note the US does not usually muck around with drones it finds where it thinks they should not be.

    Of course there is no rational discussions possible with the west at the moment but in the future such discussions need to be had and decisions made regarding international law regarding unmanned platforms which can pose a threat to air traffic.

    Especially near a conflict zone where you can not be sure that the markings and identifications on the platform are accurate.

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