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    Iran nuclear program and sanctions

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    Post  crod Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:01 am

    GarryB wrote:Yes, they can, and with good reason as Iran kept to the deal while the US has left it completely and the EU component of the agreement are not really fulfilling their part at all, so in every sense Iran has complied to the letter, the US has withdrawn and the EU has failed in its part of the deal.

    The US is destroying agreements left right and centre saying they are useless or unfair for them... currently this agreement is unfair for Iran... they were and are following the rules and some of their partners in the contract are not.

    Sell them anything they want.

    Hope they have the political stomach to do so - potentially a crazy amount of $$$ they're leaving off the table if they agree to new sanctions. Not sure how much spare money Iran has right now but you'd think they'd be rather interested in buying some new hardware. Easily managed through loans or an oil for weapons type arrangement. Local production of aircraft and air defense assistance would be a decent start.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:00 pm

    Russia can sell Iran new military hardware and Iran can pay in oil... and they can also pay in oil for any food they might need, or any medicines.

    China also continues to buy oil from Iran doesn't it? ...so I would see that continuing too...

    Hell, they could build a pipe across the Caspian Sea and pipe oil and gas from Iran to Russia... once in Russia they can mix it in with their own product and sell it to anyone they like or just use it themselves...
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    Post  Viktor Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:46 am

    west tried to play both Russia and Iran by using meaningless words as tricks because of which both countries for a moment appeared naive still in the longer term it is the west that will have to swallow humiliation and do the begging under the Kremlin walls not to sell Iran weapons and else still once liberated from the western narrative about Iran as a threat perspective that it is not(as same as the Russian treat narrative that it is not),now  trade increase between the states seems to be a priority meaning it will happen.

    For instance Russia can become a treat only if provoked to but narrative that that is something by itself and everlasting and than taunting unimportant viewpoints from the position of outmost importance as arguments  in conditions wheres opposite side allows themselves a carte blanche for by any means unlawful actions under pretex of some slogans and paroles whose sole arbitrary is given to themselves by themselves will not pass and represents a madness which can in case of its further expressions be confronted with only another madness meaning war and with that being said increasing lvl of the madness you can unleash upon your opponent justifies war preparations which is why I believe that weapons will be sold.

    Single minded west has by their own verdict draw the line and proclaimed themselves the World and in all its convictions about superiority all the others barbarians so you can clearly see the problem arising from such paradigm where ultimately you can think of such confrontation as a conflict of uniform (the World) vs diversity (all others )a is that uniforms will have to maintain position of uniform thought even when challenged by failing economy and so while diversity does not have to as is by its own definition so. Very Happy
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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:33 am

    The west is not happy with just winning, they want the countries they see as defying their will to fail so they can justify their own position and values... Venezuela is a case in point... a free market economy and a democracy, but they call it a communist state and are trying to destroy it because they don't control the leadership or the resources.

    In other words it is not about communism or democracy it is about control.

    For Russia the sale of weapons to Iran is financially appealing of course, but for the region making a war potentially more costly or more precise too costly for Israel and the US and Saudi Arabia is a good thing because it will prevent a war, and the enormous damage that entails... I suspect frackers in the US would love a war against Iran and so would Saudi Arabia because they are bound to the price of oil and if that would to rocket up to $300 a barrel because of a war then they would be over the moon happy... no matter who gets killed.

    Russia has diversified its economy so more expensive transport costs are not really that good for them to be honest, but they will benefit from increased energy costs, but I suspect they would rather earn money honestly through production and skill than sucking from that black nipple of the oil well.
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    Post  Viktor Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:16 am

    they will arm a fellow barbarian tribe

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    Post  George1 Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:49 pm

    Iran gives Europe two months to comply with terms of 2015 nuke deal

    Rouhani said that in the future Iran would declare a third stage of reducing its commitments under the nuclear deal
    Iranian President Hassan Rouhani Iranian Presidency Office via AP

    MOSCOW, September 4. /TASS/. Iran doubts the readiness of participants in the nuclear deal to promptly get back to full compliance with the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) and for this reason it gives Europe some time to do so, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani told a cabinet meeting on Wednesday. "Europe has another two-month deadline for negotiations, agreement, and a return to its commitments," the news agency Mehr quotes President Hassan Rouhani as saying.

    Rouhani said that in the future Iran would declare a third stage of reducing its commitments under the nuclear deal. "In my opinion, this step is the most important one that we will take, and its impacts will be extraordinarily huge," he said.

    On May 8, 2019 Rouhani declared that Tehran was suspending part of its obligations under the nuclear deal and gave the other partakers 60 days to resume compliance. On July 7, Tehran proceeded with the second phase of suspension (by declaring uranium enrichment to above 3.67%) and promised to downgrade its commitments every 60 days, if the other participants in the agreement continued to default on their obligations. The current 60-day deadline expires on September 5.

    The Iranian nuclear program issue aggravated after the United States’ unilateral pullout from the JCPOA on May 8, 2018 and the introduction of oil export sanctions against Iran by the US. Iran says that the other signatories, the Europeans in the first place, fail to honor all of their economic obligations, so the deal in the current shape makes no sense.

    https://tass.com/world/1076364
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    Post  Viktor Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:15 pm

    2100 MWe more for Islamic Republic

    Iran with Russia has officially launched the construction of Bushehr NPP’s second stage

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:41 pm

    UNSC vote on extending Iran arms embargo yesterday. Only Dominican Republic, who?, voted with the US. Diplomatic humiliation. How are the mighty fallen. But they might lash out later.

    UK, F, G, EU have already said that as the US walked out of the nuclear agreement they can't now turn round and activate clauses within it, even if they applied. Bit like a teetotal husband who walks out on his wife and then comes back two years later telling her not to buy wine Laughing

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    Breakdown in voting on U.S. resolution to extend #Iran arms embargo: 2 votes in favor, 2 votes against, 11 abstentions. The amount of abstentions speaks volumes, and still indicates the unease of many UNSC members with the embargo expiring. Next steps: #Snapback.

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    Post  Hole Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:41 am

    Look at this BS: "indicates the unease of many UNSC members..." attack
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    Post  George1 Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:53 pm

    Iran Nuclear Talks to Resume in Vienna on Sunday

    BRUSSELS (Sputnik) - The Joint Commission of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) will resume the negotiations in Vienna on June 20, the European Union External Action Service said on Saturday.

    "The Joint Commission of the JCPOA will resume on Sunday 20 June in Vienna. The Joint Commission will be chaired, on behalf of EU High Representative Josep Borrell, by the Deputy Secretary General/Political Director of the European External Action Service, Enrique Mora," the statement read.

    Representatives of China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and Iran will attend the talks.

    The participants will continue to discuss a possible return by the United States to the nuclear deal and ways to ensure its full and effective implementation, according to the statement.

    Since April, Vienna has been hosting sessions of the JCPOA joint commission, as well as informal meetings in different formats, aimed at preventing the 2015 nuclear deal from falling apart.

    https://sputniknews.com/world/202106191083190845-iran-nuclear-talks-to-resume-in-vienna-on-sunday/
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    Post  George1 Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:19 pm

    Bennett Warns US Against Rejoining Iran Nuclear Deal

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202106211083195690-last-chance-to-wake-up-bennett-warns-us-against-rejoining-iran-nuclear-deal/
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:04 am

    For clarity Bennett is an Israeli minister... of course he would object to peace between Iran and anyone.

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    Post  George1 Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:47 pm

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:09 pm

    A waste of time. EU will flip flop and at the drop of a hat, place sanctions on Iran by American accord.

    I am kinda surprised Iran didn't learn a thing.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:18 am

    The EU gets not say... if the US says no then the answer is no... the EU has already failed when it said it wanted to keep to the deal but was giving in to US sanctions and not living up to its end of the bargain.
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    Post  Kiko Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:06 pm

    Rest in Peace JCPOA, by Pepe Escobar for PressTV. 12.24.2022.

    The Iran nuclear deal, officially known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), is now, for all practical purposes, dead. Just like in the legendary Dead Parrot sketch by Monty Python, this deal is no more. It has gone to meet its maker. This is a former deal.

    The undertaker, significantly, was none other than the senile character currently impersonating the “leader of the free world”.

    His name may be Joe Biden, but “Biden” is in fact a combo in the background dictating every line of the script the Crash Test Dummy in question haltingly tries to deliver, either mimicking the words whispered to his earpiece or struggling to read a teleprompter.

    A new video, shot in early November, surfaced earlier this week where “Biden” says the JCPOA deal is dead. “But we’re not going to announce it. Long story.”

    The long story it is. When he was relatively less senile, on his campaign trail over two years ago, “Biden” promised that Washington would rejoin the JCPOA, which was unilaterally torn apart by his predecessor Donald Trump in 2018.

    After he arrived at the White House, “Biden” – actually his handlers – appointed Robert Malley as special envoy to Iran, tasked to oversee the whole process, including discussions towards a renewed JCPOA.

    Malley played the spoiler role to perfection. The sanctions obsession prevailed over any serious attempt to revive the JCPOA.

    In parallel, what former CIA analyst Ray McGovern has memorably defined as MICIMATT – the military-industrial-Congressional-intelligence-media-academia-think tank complex – revved up the blame game on Iran 24/7, now guilty because of a “hardline new president” incapable of “constructive dialogue with the West”.

    The original JCPOA clinched in Vienna in 2015 – I followed most of the process live – was very convenient at the time for the then-Barack Obama administration, the so-called EU3 (France, UK and Germany) and even Russia and China.

    Obama believed that a deal would lead Tehran to be more amenable toward Washington.

    Now the geopolitical chessboard has completely changed. The European Union plus the Brexiters have been reduced to an outsize satrapy of the American Empire.

    The Russia-China strategic partnership is considered by the Americans as an existential threat. And Iran on top of it has been admitted as a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

    So there’s no incentive whatsoever for the Straussians/neo-cons and neoliberalcons who control Washington’s foreign policy to revive the JCPOA.

    The waltz of the EU satraps

    The JCPOA was essentially a clone of the Minsk agreement: the Empire just playing for time before coming up with renewed mischief. Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel herself has revealed, on the record, that Minsk was nothing but a gigantic farce.

    Tehran though never fell into the trap. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, a smart geopolitical strategist, saw through it from the start: never trust the Americans.

    He intuitively knew that whoever succeeded Obama – Hawkish Hillary or, as it happened, Trump – in the end, would not respect what was signed, and ratified by the United Nations.

    As for the European satraps, they didn’t even make an effort to implement sanctions relief towards Iran via the INSTEX mechanism after Trump tore up the deal.

    The unspoken mantra was to keep Iran down. It was as if this collective West combo was just waiting for the next color revolution bonanza – which in the end happened, too little, too late, a few months ago.

    If “Biden” handlers were really interested from the start in reviving the JCPOA, the straightforward path would have been to ditch the sanctions and go for it.

    Instead, what happened was Malley and others demanding more concessions and turning sanctions relief into a mirage. The negotiations in Vienna this year reached a dead end.

    When the E3 countries came up with a draft agreement presented to the Iranian negotiators in Vienna, they made a few “reasonable” (EU terminology) changes and sent the package back to the Europeans, who submitted it to the Americans.

    The changes were deemed “not constructive”. Dead end – all over again.

    So “maximum pressure”, that Trump thing, but slightly less blunt, continued to dictate the proceedings under “Biden’s” handlers. Yet Tehran didn’t fold and diplomatically always insisted it was ready for a deal.

    Malley himself had already hinted, nearly two months ago, that the revival of the deal was not a priority anymore; a new attempt at color revolution was the new game in town.

    Hence the Blame Tehran Game reaching a fever pitch all over again: they are killing protesters in the streets, they are feeding weapons to Russia in Ukraine, and they want to build a nuclear bomb.

    At least now it’s in the open: the only thing that matters for US intel –and for the MICIMATT – is to facilitate attacks on Iranian security by their Kurd and Baloch assets, and to bribe as many “protesters” (read rioters) as possible to go Full-Color Revolution.

    The Empire of No Deals

    Everyone analyzing West Asia with an IQ above room temperature knows that Iran’s “nuclear weapon program” is a gigantic farce – a massive propaganda campaign developed for decades by the usual suspects.

    What really matters for Tehran is to increase its civilian nuclear capabilities. And that’s what’s already happening.

    Iranian capacity for uranium enrichment is now twice as high as the total volume produced since the onset of its nuclear industry. The Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) just announced it’s enriching uranium at a historic 60 percent rate, using new advanced centrifuges – and will not wait for the resumption of negotiations in Vienna.

    The leadership in Tehran has fully grasped the future is in Eurasia – from fully joining the SCO to becoming a member of BRICS+ perhaps as early as next year. Interlocking strategic partnerships with BRICS members Russia, China and India are in progress.

    Iran is involved in the drive towards multipolarity across the spectrum. The latest example is Russia’s second-largest bank, VTB – sanctioned by the collective West – launching a new money transfer service to Iranian individuals and businesses, bypassing the US dollar.

    Nobody will miss the JCPOA. What matters in fact in this long-running saga is the valuable lesson learned by the whole Global South: it’s now blatantly clear the decaying Empire is non-agreement capable, and an eminently untrustworthy entity.

    https://www.unz.com/pescobar/rest-in-peace-jcpoa/

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