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    Iran nuclear program and sanctions

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    Post  George1 Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:12 pm

    UN Geneva Office Ready to Urgently Host Iran Nuclear Talks – Source

    A UN source confirmed that the foreign ministers of Iran and the P5+1 group of international mediators could move to the UN building in Geneva from Lausanne in case a concluding meeting is necessary.

    LAUSANNE (Sputnik) – The UN office in Geneva is ready to urgently host the negotiations on the issue of Iran's nuclear program, a UN source at the office said Saturday.

    On Friday, Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi said that the foreign ministers of Iran and the P5+1 group of international mediators could move to the UN building in Geneva from Lausanne in case a concluding meeting is necessary.

    "Yes, we are ready to urgently organize a meeting but no requests have been made so far," the source said.

    Also on Friday, Araqchi said that certain unresolved issues still remained but the negotiators were working toward resolving them.

    The latest round of talks on Tehran's nuclear program between Iran and the P5+1 group, comprising Russia, China, the United States, the United Kingdom, France and Germany, is taking place in Lausanne, Switzerland, and is expected to end on Sunday.

    The West has reservations about Iran's program, accusing the Islamic republic of covertly developing nuclear weapons. Iran has said that the nuclear program was developed to meet the country's growing energy needs.

    The participants of the talks should produce a political framework agreement by the end of March, while a comprehensive deal to ensure the peaceful nature of Tehran's nuclear program is expected by July.

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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:28 pm

    Iran's power rises, with or without deal


    By Stephen Collinson, CNN


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    Washington (CNN)Deal or no deal in the Iranian nuclear talks, Tehran is already behaving like it's made a killing.

    Sure, U.S. and international sanctions inflicted staggering damage on Iran's economy, convincing the longtime American foe to join talks aimed at limiting its nuclear program. Those talks face an important Tuesday night deadline.

    But it's not just Iran's nuclear aspirations that have everyone's attention -- though just the fact that Iranian officials are at the table with the world's most powerful countries has elevated Iran's international status.

    Getting the bomb would greatly magnify its regional -- even global -- role, but Tehran is also making big moves in a tumultuous Great Game of Middle East geopolitics that is challenging U.S influence and prestige and chilling Washington's allies.


    As it engages on its nuclear program, Tehran has exploited the divisions of the Arab Spring and the power vacuum of America's downgraded involvement in the region. It has also taken advantage of the leeway the United States offered in prioritizing a nuclear deal over attempts to restrain Tehran's proxies that could risk breaking up the negotiations.

    The result is that Iran -- often through militant groups it sponsors -- has become a key player in conflicts in neighboring states all the way to the edge of the Mediterranean.

    Its drive for regional pre-eminence is becoming an increasing problem for the Obama administration as it contemplates selling a nuclear deal -- which is already drawing considerable skepticism -- to opponents in Congress and to anxious allies like Saudi Arabia and Israel, who are watching Iran's maneuvering up close.


    Critics are accusing President Barack Obama of turning a blind eye toward Iran's nefarious motives and proxy wars in the Middle East to safeguard a legacy-enhancing push for a deal that could lift his presidency's historic potential after decades of hostility between Washington and Tehran.

    They fear Iran is not only about to walk away with a deal that leaves its nuclear infrastructure intact, but that it is also playing the United States for a fool by using the talks to shield its hegemonic ambitions in the Middle East.

    "They have completely schooled the American and European diplomats," said Michael Rubin, an Iran analyst and critic of the administration at the American Enterprise Institute.

    "The Iranians used to brag that they play chess and we play checkers. It turns out that they play chess, while we play solitaire."

    Iranian proxies

    Iran has used its Revolutionary Guard Corps and a host of proxies to fill the power gap left by the U.S. departure from Iraq and the political tumult stirred by the collapse of authoritarian governments felled by now-defunct popular reform movements.

    "Iran was destined to expand its influence one way or the other, and the U.S. was not going to prevent that, especially because of the cost involved in trying to pacify Iraq," said Reva Bhalla, vice president of global analysis at Stratfor, a global intelligence and advisory firm.

    "Iran benefited from the Arab Spring as well."

    Iran has also seen an opportunity in the U.S.'s shifting policies and interests in the region. The George W. Bush administration pushed out the regional strongman in Iraq, Saddam Hussein, who kept Iran in check through a hostile balance-of-power arrangement. The subsequent collapse of the Iraqi state left a festering sectarian stew that Tehran was quick to use to forge links in Shiite areas.

    And Obama, in addition to withdrawing American forces from Iraq, has sought a lighter touch in hot spots like Syria, Yemen and Libya, where chaos has created an opening for outside fighters and radical domestic groups to swoop in.

    The regional meltdown that has seen governance collapse and national borders redrawn on sectarian lines has provided a potent breeding ground for radical, stateless Islamic groups — like ISIS -- to grow and threaten both U.S. and Iranian national interests.

    So the Obama administration also sees a common interest with Iran in fighting ISIS. But some critics say its desire to do so has blinded it to Iran's activities elsewhere.

    White House assessments

    This has left the White House in the uncomfortable position of having to explain why the United States appears to be tacitly cooperating with Iran, with which it has waged a de facto ideological war for 30 years.

    Senior U.S. officials deny they are going soft on Iran to keep Tehran sweet on nuclear talks. They say the negotiations are walled off from concerns about Iran's aggressive moves elsewhere. And they point out that Tehran would be much more dangerous to its neighbors if it were able to build a bomb.


    "Even if a nuclear deal is reached, our concerns about Iran's behavior in the region and around the world will endure," White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough told the J Street policy conference last week, slamming Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism, a proliferator and a gross violator of human rights that seeks to destabilize its neighbors.

    Several U.S. allies in the region, watching Iran's growing influence, worry that whatever berth the United States is giving Iran, it goes well beyond the nuclear talks and the fight against ISIS.

    Instead, they fear the beginning of a wider détente with Iran that some are calling a "Persian pivot."

    Saudi concerns

    Saudi Ambassador to the United States Adel al-Jubeir told CNN that Riyadh was "concerned about the interference by Iran in the affairs of other countries in the region, whether it is in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen."

    Obama's domestic foes are less diplomatic.

    "I heard repeatedly from leaders in the region that they believe we are forming some kind of Faustian bargain with the Iranians which would then lead to great danger to those countries," Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona said last week.

    "They believe that we are siding with Iran."

    The former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, warned on Fox News on Sunday that Iran was "on the march" across the Middle East and that the administration response was one of "willful ignorance."

    But a senior Obama administration official on Monday denied that Washington wanted the wider accommodation with Iran that its allies fear.


    "The critics look at this as some part of a grand détente or reconciliation -- that by getting this deal we will turn another cheek or grant them carte blanche," said the official, who was not authorized to talk publicly about the nuclear talks.

    "We have been and we remain just as concerned."

    And at the same time that it holds marathon talks with Iran, Washington is backing its ally Saudi Arabia and a Sunni coalition that is bombarding Iranian-backed Shiite Houthi militias in Yemen.

    In Syria, the United States wants close Iranian ally President Bashar al-Assad gone after his murderous rampage against his own people.

    But many Washington observers believe the United States has stepped back from the region and interpret the increasingly assertive military actions of Sunni states such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt as a sign that they feel Iran already has the upper hand. They see the Saudi coalition's assault on the Houthis as a signal, not just to Iran, but to Washington.

    "Our traditional Arab allies are apoplectic. We are involved against ISIS in Syria but essentially did nothing in the past three years as the Houthis took over Yemen," said David Schenker, a former Bush administration official now with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.


    The Saudis are using Yemen to send messages "to Iran and to a lesser extent to us about their lack of confidence in the American security blanket being able to protect them from Iran's machinations in the region," said Stephen Seche, a former U.S. Ambassador to Yemen.

    The White House said it has no illusions on Iran's motives, but argued that the painful lessons of the last decade show a huge U.S. military operation in the Middle East is unlikely to reshape its politics.

    "It's definitely a regional power struggle," said the senior administration official, stressing that Iran's strategy dates from well before either the Arab Spring or the Iraq war, all the way back to the 1979 Islamic Revolution itself.

    "It's a geostrategic play to use these groups as pressure points, in some cases playing on Shiite grievances but also just to increase pressure on the Saudi border," said the official.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has been spearheading negotiations on a possible deal to rein in Iran's nuclear program.

    The administration insists that a large-scale reintroduction of U.S. forces to the Middle East is not the correct policy response.

    "It is going to be dictated by individual countries and the particular circumstances and what is the U.S. interest there," the official said.

    And the administration is not alone in believing the United States has a limited ability to influence what happens in the region.

    "We can do things at the margins to help this side, reinforce that side, train another, arm another. So the U.S. position is likely to be quite modest," said Richard Haass, chairman of the Council of Foreign Relations.

    And Justin Logan, a specialist in geopolitics at the Cato Institute, warned that the United States must not get involved in the "pathological politics" of the region.

    The idea that a proxy struggle between the Gulf Arabs and the Iranians can be effectively managed by the United States defies both logic and history," he said.

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:18 am

    So apparently there isn't any deal at all and it all fell through. Guess Russia has no choice but to try and work closer with Iran regardless of what west says and both sides (Iran and Russia) needs to work out joint payment system and way both countries can deal. Since both Russia and Iran access the Caspian sea, Trade shouldn't be a problem.
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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:35 am

    sepheronx wrote:So apparently there isn't any deal at all and it all fell through.  Guess Russia has no choice but to try and work closer with Iran regardless of what west says and both sides (Iran and Russia) needs to work out joint payment system and way both countries can deal.  Since both Russia and Iran access the Caspian sea, Trade shouldn't be a problem.

    Minor issues remain on Iran bans in nuclear talks: Iran negotiator



    A senior member of Iran’s nuclear negotiating team says Tehran and the P5+1 group of countries have reached an agreement on the removal of anti-Tehran sanctions, but minor issues still remain.



    Hamid Baeidinejad, who is the director general for political and international security affairs at Iran's Foreign Ministry, told the Press TV correspondent in Lausanne that Tehran and the six states - Russia, China, France, Britain, the US and Germany - are working to minimize the difference on the remaining minor issues regarding the bans.

    "Sanctions have many aspects, there are unilateral sanctions, US sanctions, EU sanctions, UNSC sanctions... I should say that many of these aspects have been resolved, but still there are some limited areas that also need to be resolved, and we are now concentrating on those remaining technical aspects with regard to the sanctions.” Baeidinejad told Press TV.

    He added that oil, gas, and banking sanctions will be lifted as soon as a comprehensive deal is implemented, noting, “The termination of oil sanctions, gas sanctions, financial banking... many of them have been resolved... But still there are a limited number of areas that are still under negotiations, which we hope we can resolve them and then we can admit that the whole issue of sanctions is resolved.”

    "We are now concentrating on some limited aspects of issues related to the overall sanctions, particularly sanctions of the UNSC, and only we are concentrating on those limited aspects now," Baeidinejad added.

    The senior Iranian diplomat said the talks will continue until the two sides can make the “final decision” on ways to solve the nuclear issue, adding that the Iranian negotiators will only accept an agreement, which will be based on international regulations and guarantee the “basic rights of the nation.”

    Iran and the P5+1 group were supposed to reach an agreement by late Tuesday as part of broader efforts to clinch a final agreement on Tehran nuclear activities by end of June.

    Ministerial delegations held three rounds of talks Tuesday in the Swiss city of Lausanne in hope of reaching the agreement, but talks still continue with some reports suggesting that negotiations may be extended into Wednesday.

    Iran and the P5+1 group are working intensely to narrow their differences and hammer out a final comprehensive accord by the end of June 2015.

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    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/31/404150/Minor-issues-remain-on-sanctions-Iran
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    Post  George1 Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:51 am

    P5+1, Iran Negotiators Take Short Break After Night-Long Talks

    After pulling an all-nighter, Iranian and the P5+1 group of international mediators decided to take a break and will resume negotiations in a few hours.

    LAUSANNE (Sputnik) – The ongoing talks on the Iran nuclear issue in the Swiss city of Lausanne have been halted for a few hours, a US State Department spokesperson informs.

    "Negotiations just broke. Will resume again in a few hours," Deputy Spokesperson for the US State Department Marie Harf wrote on her Twitter page early on Thursday.

    "That was truly an all-nighter," Harf said in a separate post, explaining that it was 6 a. m. in Lausanne.

    The Lausanne round of negotiations started on March 19. Iran and the P5+1 group of international mediators, which includes Russia, the United States, France, China, the United Kingdom and Germany, were supposed to reach a political framework agreement on Tuesday, however, the talks continued into Wednesday.

    The deadline for a final comprehensive agreement on the Iranian nuclear program has been set for July 1, 2015.

    Tehran wants Western sanctions imposed against Iran over its nuclear activities to be fully lifted as part of the deal with the P5+1. The West, which fears that Iran is developing nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian program, wants Tehran to halt its uranium enrichment program and decrease the number of centrifuges in the country.

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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:35 pm

    Iran, P5+1 joint statement calling for removal of all anti-Iran sanctions


    Thu Apr 2, 2015 5:38PM

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    European Union’s foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini (L), and Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, take part in a joint press conference in the Swiss city of Lausanne on Thursday.


    Iran and the P5+1 group of world powers have adopted a joint statement after marathon talks in the Swiss city of Lausanne calling, among other things, for the removal of UNSC resolutions and sanctions against the Islamic Republic.

    The statement was read out in a joint press conference in the Swiss city by the EU high representative, Federica Mogherini, and Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif on Thursday.

    In the framework of the agreement, none of Iran’s nuclear facilities as well as the previous activities will be stopped, shut down or suspended and Iran’s nuclear activities in all its nuclear facilities including Natanz, Fordow, Isfahan and Arak will continue.

    These comprehensive solutions will guarantee the continued enrichment program inside the Iranian territory and according to this, Iran will be allowed to go on with industrial production of nuclear fuel which is meant for running its nuclear power plants.

    According to the solutions, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) for enrichment program will cover a 10-year period, during which more than 5,000 centrifuge machines will continue producing enriched material at Natanz facility up to the 3.67-percent level. Extra machines and the related infrastructure in the facility will be collected by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in order to be replaced by new machines consistent with the allowed standards. Accordingly, Iran will be allowed to allocate the current stockpile of enriched materials for the purpose of producing nuclear fuel or swapping it with uranium in the international markets.

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    Iran will continue research and development program on advanced centrifuge machines and will be also able to keep initiating and completing its R & D program on IR-4, IR-5, IR-6 and IR-8 machines in the 10-year period of the agreement.

    Fordow facility

    According to the joint statement, Fordow nuclear facility will be turned into a research center for nuclear science and physics. More than 1,000 centrifuges will be maintained at this facility and two centrifuge cascades will keep operating. In cooperation with the P5+1 countries, about half of the Fordow facility will be dedicated to advanced nuclear research and production of stable isotopes which have important applications in industry, agriculture and medicine.

    Arak heavy water reactor

    According to the statement, the heavy water reactor in the Iranian city of Arak will remain in place but will be redesigned and updated. The redesigning process will greatly increase efficiency of the reactor while reducing the amount of plutonium produced in the facility. The redesigning process will be done according to defined scheduled as an international project with cooperation of Iran. Production of fuel for Arak reactor and awarding international nuclear fuel production certificate will be among international cooperation to be offered to Iran.

    Additional Protocol

    Iran will implement the Additional Protocol temporarily and voluntarily in line with its confidence-building measures and after that the protocol will be ratified in a time frame by the Iranian government and parliament (Majlis).

    Removal of Sanctions

    Following the implementation of the JPCOA, all the UN Security Council sanctions as well as all economic and financial embargoes by the US and the European Union, including bans on banks, insurance, investment, and all other related services in different fields, including petrochemical, oil, gas and automobile industries will be lifted. Besides, all nuclear-related sanctions against real and legal entities, state and private organizations and institutions, including those sanctions imposed against the Central Bank of Iran, other financial and banking institutions, SWIFT system, and the country’s shipping and aviation sectors, and Iran's tanker company will be immediately lifted all at once. Moreover, the P5+1 countries are committed to avoid imposing any new nuclear-related sanctions against Iran.

    International Cooperation

    Iran’s international nuclear cooperation, including with the member states of the P5+1 will be possible and promoted in the fields of building nuclear power plants, research reactors, nuclear fusion, stable isotopes, nuclear safety, nuclear medicine and agriculture. According to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, Iran will be provided with access to global market as well as international trade, finance, technical knowledge and energy.

    Schedule for implementing JCPOA

    At the end of these negotiations, the two sides will start drafting the JCPOA in the near future to meet the July 1 deadline. Once the text is finalized, the JCPOA will be adopted as a UN Security Council resolution. For the JCPOA to be binding for all UN member states, the resolution will be adopted under the Article 41 of Chapter Seven of the UN Charter to be able to render previous resolutions against Iran null and void.

    The joint statement released at the end of eight days of intensive negotiations in Lausanne on Thursday is a sign that Iran and its negotiating partners have come to a mutual understanding over Iran’s nuclear program.

    Representatives of Iran and the P5+1 group of countries -- the United States, Britain, China, France and Russia plus Germany – along with senior officials of the European Union have held talks over the past years to narrow the existing differences on Tehran’s nuclear activities.

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    Thank goodness we finally get a win!
    Congratulation

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    Post  Hannibal Barca Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:40 pm

    Go Iran!!!!!!!!!!
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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:49 pm

    Obama Says U.S., Iran Have Reached ‘Historic Understanding’

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/obama-sa...ing-1428002263



    John Kerry on Iran nuclear talks: agreement is a 'solid foundation' - live updates

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/liv...cement-eu-live




    Iran talks: Awaiting history, reporters Twitter away the hours
    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...ting-history-reporters-Twitter-away-the-hours





    Iran Nuclear Talks: World Leaders Reach Framework on Iran Deal
    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ir...foreign-minister-says-found-solutions-n334706




    Obama: Historic deal reached on Iran nuclear program
    http://rt.com/usa/246357-obama-iran-nuclear-deal/


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    Post  sepheronx Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:00 am

    I find it suspicious how quick in recent months to push an agreement on western end. Especially after Russia and Irans warming relations. I am suspiciois of this. I think it is a method by the west to quickly snap up Iran away from Russia and China interests. I think in coming months you will see major oil and gas deals with Iran from west, as well as military tech deals, and Iran will effectively move towards the west and may attempt to move away from any Russian deals. This is my speculation. Dangerous game really and hopefully Iran knows what kinda game the west is playing.
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:14 am

    sepheronx wrote:I find it suspicious how quick in recent months to push an agreement on western end. Especially after Russia and Irans warming relations. I am suspiciois of this. I think it is a method by the west to quickly snap up Iran away from Russia and China interests. I think in coming months you will see major oil and gas deals with Iran from west, as well as military tech deals, and Iran will effectively move towards the west and may attempt to move away from any Russian deals. This is my speculation. Dangerous game really and hopefully Iran knows what kinda game the west is playing.

    My suspicions too; only I doubt it will be successful - and also it will be more of a detente than an outright attempted absorbtion of Iran into the Western sphere.

    Iran and the West have too many other outstanding issues for any sort of grand agreement to be able to achieve success anytime soon. The quagmire in Syria, tensions with Israel & the Gulf Arabs, Iranian assistance to Hezbollah and now the erupting conflict in Yemen.
    On all of these issues Iran and Europe/America stand on opposite sides of the divide - even if a deal on the nuclear issue is reached, the rest of these things aren't going to disappear.

    What I think America may be playing at, is establishing a policy of detente with the Iranians; that won't aim to solve all the contradicitons in relations instantly and get Iran to switch its bets from Russia/China to the West - or rather, at least not immediately.

    Instead the immediate objective would likely be to secure Iran's neutrality vis-a-vis America's tensions with Russia and China, and to make sure that it won't start new problems on America's flanks while the US is dealing with the Russia problem.
    A new Iranian-Western understanding would allow tensions to be contained and gradually start dying down. And also, a potential new source of gas supplies for the EU, seperate from Russia.

    With the Nuclear deal and lifting of sanctions, the West has made the first step, and are now waiting for the Iranians to repocriate.

    But really, I doubt the Iranians would fall for it. They are rather distrusting of everyone; including Russia and China; they are not close to any world power - but at the same time they definately recognize that there is much for them to gain from Russia's and China's rise, and on most world issues they find themselves in alignment.
    In other words, there is simply too little incentive for Iran's neutrality, and to stop creating problems for America at a time when its influence in the Middle East has been rapidly rising. Moreover, the Iranians do not the trust the Americans one bit - given the US's behaviour of smiling one minute and then launching an intervention or supporting rebels against their partners the next, as well as never forgetting to exact vengence against those who slighted them - it's probably a wise policy. If the West is successful with dealing with Russia - how do the Iranians know that they won't be the next in line - despite any agreements made?
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    Post  crod Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:28 am

    So how long before Russia and whoever can begin selling what they wish?

    http://presstv.ir/Detail/2015/04/02/404427/Iran-P51-adopt-joint-statement


    Thank goodness we finally get a win!
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    Post  Zivo Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:37 am

    Now, Russian needs to start dumping weapons on Iran. Just go freakin' nuts, SELL SELL SELL!

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:52 am

    People! Did everyone forget the battle hasn't even begun? It still has to be ratified by US Congress before they can lift the sanctions, which it will be close to impossible, the Republicans are firmly in the Pro-Israel camp, the House and the Senate both have Republican majorities who are in fact very hostile towards Iran.

    If anything the highest chance for it failing has now just started.
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    Post  TR1 Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:01 am

    Well, no problem with S-300s now.
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    Post  crod Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:35 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:People! Did everyone forget the battle hasn't even begun? It still has to be ratified by US Congress before they can lift the sanctions, which it will be close to impossible, the Republicans are firmly in the Pro-Israel camp, the House and the Senate both have Republican majorities who are in fact very hostile towards Iran.

    If anything the highest chance for it failing has now just started.

    Will be interesting but 4+1 agree if the yanks scupper this now they'll be left behind. Also, and need to check this with US members on here, but the Prssident can veto their veto I think? Or I might be well off the mark here...

    Immediate financial gain through petro dollars and banking sector. Europe will be walking around with hard ons just thinking of the financial award awaiting, which of course will help their struggling economies.

    Next few weeks we should all know more but the fact the Israelis are screaming blue murder already is enough to tell me the deal is good.

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    Post  Zivo Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:44 am

    If Congress doesn't accept the deal, Obama said “it is the U.S. that will be blamed for the failure of diplomacy.”
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:07 am

    crod wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:People! Did everyone forget the battle hasn't even begun? It still has to be ratified by US Congress before they can lift the sanctions, which it will be close to impossible, the Republicans are firmly in the Pro-Israel camp, the House and the Senate both have Republican majorities who are in fact very hostile towards Iran.

    If anything the highest chance for it failing has now just started.

    Will be interesting but 4+1 agree if the yanks scupper this now they'll be left behind. Also, and need to check this with US members on here, but the Prssident can veto their veto I think? Or I might be well off the mark here...

    Immediate financial gain through petro dollars and banking sector. Europe will be walking around with hard ons just thinking of the financial award awaiting, which of course will help their struggling economies.

    Next few weeks we should all know more but the fact the Israelis are screaming blue murder already is enough to tell me the deal is good.

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    ...One only has to look at the other major nuclear deal signed nearly 20 years ago, the so called 'Nuclear Test Ban Treaty', the US signed it back in 1996 and US Congress conscientiously made a decision not to ratify it. The likeliness that this will succeed while the other one failed is extremely-low.
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    Post  George1 Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:57 pm

    The Iran Nuclear Deal: Highlights, High Hopes, and Haters

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    Much to the dismay, no doubt, of at least 47 US Republican Senators, a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) was reached concerning Iran's nuclear program Thursday, after 8 straight days of final-round negotiations, in Lausanne, Switzerland.

    As the tentative agreement is released, official, media, and popular reaction runs from one extreme to the other. The agreement covers five different areas: enrichments, inspections and transparency, reactors and reprocessing, sanctions, and phasing.

    This rough draft has to be molded and refined into a formal accord by June 30th and, as the text itself reminds readers, "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed." In the meantime, here are some highlights from the agreement, and reactions from across the spectrum.

    Enrichment

    Reduction of centrifuges — Iran will reduce its installed centrifuges from 9,000 installed today to 6,104.

    Level of Enrichment — For at least 15 years, Iran won't enrich any uranium to levels of over 3.67%

    Facilities - For at least 15 years, Iran won't build any new enrichment facilities, and it will not enrich uranium, store fissile material or research the enrichment of uranium at its Fordo facility. Only the Natanz facility will be used for enrichment for the next 10 years.


    Inspections and Transparency

    Inspector Access — The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will have access to all facilities, the complete supply chain to those facilities, uranium mines and mills (for 25 years), centrifuge production and storage facilities (for 20 years). It will be allowed to inspect sites, whether declared or not, and investigate suspicious or alleged sites.

    Additional Protocol — Iran will sign the IAEA Additional Protocol, which is a safeguards regime that greatly expanded the IAEA's ability to keep an eye out for clandestine nuclear programs, as well as Modified Code 3.1, which mandates early notification of any new construction plans.


    Reactors and Reprocessing


    Arak - The heavy water reactor at Arak, which had generated worries that it would be used to produce weapons grade plutonium, will be redesigned for peaceful research and radioisotope production. Its original core will be removed and destroyed. Spent fuel will be shipped out of the country. For 15 years Iran won't accumulate excess heavy water or build any new heavy water reactors.


    Sanctions

    EU & US — Once the IAEA confirms that Iran has completed all the nuclear-related requirements, US and EU nuclear-related sanctions will be lifted. Any backsliding by Iran, the US has warned, means the sanctions come back as well.

    UN - Once Iran complies, UN Security council resolutions relating directly to nuclear activities will be lifted, but those relating to things like the transfer of sensitive technologies will be renegotiated. A dispute resolution process will be established, but if parties fail to find resolutions for conflicts arising from the JCPOA, UN sanctions can snap back into place.


    Phasing

    10 years — limit enrichment capacity and R&D, centrifuge limitations, maintain one-year "breakout timeline" (the time needed to produce enough uranium for one nuclear weapon).

    15 years — no new enrichment facilities or heavy water reactors, limited enriched uranium stockpile, extra transparency measures.

    25 years — robust inspections of Iran's supply chain, access to uranium mines and mills

    Permanent — adherence to the IAEA Additional Protocol, and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).


    Mixed Reaction

    "The political understanding with details that we have reached is a solid foundation for the good deal we are seeking, " said US Secretary of State John Kerry, acknowledging that many technical details are yet to be worked out.

    France was cautious in its optimism, with president Francois Hollande saying: "France will be watchful… to ensure that a credible, verifiable agreement be established under which the international community can be sure Iran will not be in a position to have access to nuclear arms."

    Israel's Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz, however, did not join in praise of the deal, calling the framework "detached from a wretched reality." And Iran's Foreign Minister Mohamad Javad Zarif said "We're still some time away from reaching where we want to be," and that the deal didn't erase other political differences with the United States.

    "We have built mutual distrust in the past," said Zarif, "So what I hope is that through courageous implementation of this some of that trust could be remedied. But that is for us all to wait and see."

    In unofficial circles, reaction on social media is running the gamut between joyous celebration, and predictions of utter catastrophe.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150403/1020403389.html#ixzz3WG3kKczf
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    Post  crod Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:06 am

    Hmmm, yes reading the U.S. Papers it would look like the real fight to make this work will take place within the U.S. itself...tragic if the Jewish lobbyists scupper this deal. Sad that America is so openly and crudely controlled by Israel.

    Bibi is a mad dog of that there is little doubt. But I guess if there is no threat, no war, Israel becomes irrelevant with dwindling international support. Dangerous situation for them but one of their own making.
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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:12 pm



    Iran's Revolutionary Guard chief backs nuclear talks



    TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — The chief of Iran's Revolutionary Guard praised the work of the country's nuclear negotiators after they struck a deal with world powers, state television reported Tuesday, a major endorsement from the Islamic Republic's most powerful institution.

    The comments by Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari came as some 200 hard-liners protested in Tehran against the framework deal reached last week in Switzerland. Jafari's endorsement likely will isolate those still opposing the deal further amid the widespread support negotiators have received and may smooth any potential parliamentary vote over it.

    "With God's grace, the revolutionary children of Islamic Iran have succeeded in defending the rights of the Iranian nation and the Iranian nation and the Guard appreciate their honest political efforts," Jafari was quoted as saying on state TV's website.

    The Revolutionary Guard is the single most powerful institution in Iran. It exerts a strong behind-the-scenes role in Iranian affairs and likely would have to agree to any potential demands reached in negotiations, such as increased international monitoring at nuclear and related sites.

    Iran's top leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final say on all major issues, including the nuclear program, has backed the negotiators, further stepping up the pressure on remaining hold-out hard-liners.

    The rally Tuesday by 200 hard-line protesters took place in front of the parliament in the Iranian capital as Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif briefed lawmakers there in a closed-door session. Iran's official IRNA news agency reported that the protesters launched their demonstrations without the permission of authorities.

    Protesters carried banners calling the agreement a "defeat" — despite the overwhelming backing of the deal by the government of moderate President Hassan Rouhani.

    The deal, which is to be finalized by June 30, is to curb Iran's bomb-capable technology while giving Tehran quick access to bank accounts, oil markets and financial assets blocked by international sanctions.

    The West long has feared Iran's nuclear program could allow it to build an atomic bomb. Iran has said its program is for peaceful purposes.


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    I cant believe that ......Even the Revolutionary guys are happy with the dial
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    Post  George1 Sat May 02, 2015 12:33 pm

    US to Inspect Iran’s Nuclear Facilities
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    Post  George1 Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:31 am

    Iran, P5+1 Can Still Finalize Nuclear Deal by June 30- US State Department

    The US government continues to believe that finalizing a nuclear agreement with Iran by the June 30, 2015 deadline is feasible, despite reports that negotiations have stalled, US Department of State spokesperson Jeff Rathke told reporters on Friday.

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — Rathke explained US Undersecretary of State Wendy Sherman is in Vienna, Austria, along with other mediators trying to finalize a nuclear agreement with Iran by the end of the month.

    “We remain of the view that June 30 is achievable… to reach a joint comprehensive plan of action by that time.”

    In April 2015, Iran and the P5+1 group of countries, comprising of the United States, Russia, China, France and the United Kingdom plus Germany, worked out a political framework on the Iranian nuclear program in the Swiss city of Lausanne.

    Under the deal, Tehran pledged to cut back uranium enrichment and decrease its number of centrifuges, in exchange for a gradual lifting of international sanctions.

    However, Iran and the world powers still disagree on a number of key issues, such as the mechanism of re-imposing sanctions on Tehran in case the deal is violated.

    The negotiators have yet to agree on how to grant the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) access to Iran’s nuclear facilities, as well as a mechanism and time frame for lifting the sanctions.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150612/1023296649.html#ixzz3ctDgrRYz
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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:36 am

    Deal reached on Iran nuclear program, diplomats say


    Vienna (CNN)After 20 months of tortuous talks, negotiators have reached a historic deal aimed at reining in Iran's nuclear program, diplomats said Tuesday.

    The agreement, a focal point of U.S. President Barack Obama's foreign policy, appears set to reshape relations between Iran and the West, with its effects likely to ripple across the volatile Middle East.

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    Post  max steel Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:37 am

    Its a historic moment but they have not lifted all sanctions yet . Iaea still insists to inspect iran's military nuclear centres hidden in mountains somewhere . Moreover sanctions can be reinstated in next 65 days again if any disruption occurs , so we will be back to zero after 15 years jibber jabber .
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    Post  George1 Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:10 pm


    Putin: Russia welcomes agreements on Iran

    The Russian president expressed satisfaction that the underlying principle of the found solution is that of phasing and reciprocity, which Russia consistently defended at all stages of negotiations

    MOSCOW, July 14./TASS/. Moscow welcomes the agreements on Iran and will do everything it can to see the agreements reached in Vienna implemented in full, President Vladimir Putin has said.

    "We are satisfied that the underlying principle of the found solution is that of phasing and reciprocity, which our country consistently defended at all stages of these difficult negotiations," a statement of the Russian leader posted on the Kremlin website says.

    "The Russian team of negotiators and nuclear specialists made a sizable expert contribution to the drafting of a comprehensive agreement, which made it possible to unify different, often diametral, positions," Putin said. "Implementation of the coordinated actions will be under thorough control of the IAEA with an aim to confirm the entirely peaceful nature of the Iranian nuclear program," he said.

    "Iran gets a possibility to develop this program, including uranium enrichment, under control from the IAEA and with a phased lifting of the sanctions imposed against Tehran, which we had insistently urged for a long time," the statement added.

    "This is important also from the point of view of the implementation of large-scale plans of Russia’s cooperation with Tehran on peaceful atom, which were supported in the documents approved today," Putin noted.

    "We expect that all interested parties, first of all the P5+1 states, will be complying in full with the reached solutions," Putin said. "Political will demonstrated by P5+1 and Iran in the course of the negotiations that have been completed is a guarantee of successful implementation of a plan of action designed for an extended period," he added.

    "Russia will be doing all it can to see the Vienna agreements implemented in full, contributing to the strengthening of international and regional security, a global regime of nuclear non-proliferation, creation in the Middle East of a zone free of weapons of mass destruction and means of their delivery, mobilization of a broad coalition in the region to counter a terrorist threat," Putin said.

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