Vladimir Putin Thread

SeigSoloyvov wrote:My my Vann you are a fool.

The people in power aren't attached to the past, Hell Putin sided Yeltsin to bring down the USSR.

Russia like any major country has ambitions, the problem is they are boxed in and left with few options. Hence the pivot to China is really the only major country willing to play ball with them to any significant degree. They cannot act on those ambitions.

This is how I know you're dumb as a rock, you think Putin believes for a SECOND the west will ever greet his Russia in friendship? No, he knows it will never happen. On the surface, he smiles and waves but it's all for show nothing more. It's just political BS, behind the scenes he does what he must, if Russia was so interested in friendship with the west, why build NS2? Why get involved in Syria etc there are plenty of examples.

Putin is in a hard hard spot, he cannot freely do what he wants because Russia cannot oppose us. So he has to act carefully because he knows a single misstep will be capitalized on by the west.

Once more you are a blind fool ignorant of the realities a leader like Putin faces, I am not saying the guy is perfect he has made mistakes but he is far from the incompetent fool you make it out to be. Because you think you are smarter than you really are.

Comes from the fool ,that was claiming , Russia military failed in syria.

Come again and apologize for saying such a foolish thing.. i told you that the western operations in syria is a policy that cannot be sustained , and that americans will have to leave and they are already doing that in iraq and afghanistan.. and those mysterious rockets attacks on american positions will only increase and force them to leave from there too. US military abandoned even one base in syria , because got scared by artillery shells falling near their base.. and russia military got it for them.


so who is the fool one ,the one ? that one claiming that US is "winning in syria" or the one telling you , no they are losing there ?

you think Putin believes for a SECOND the west will ever greet his Russia in friendship? No, he knows it will never happen.

ive never spoke about bullshit friendship , is soft power , what i talk about.
The only way , Russia can push back its enemies , that are unleashing a war on them , without provoking a nuclear war , is with softpower.. exactly what china is doing.

is business success ,business leadership , in the most important business , that the anglo west feel more proud about them, the business that the west more use ,to lure nations into its orbit ,is what will push back the anglo western system into cooperation and put an end to their hostilities.

is not "friendship" from western politicians , what i was talking about, is submission , a different thing. Russia can push into submission the west with business leadership , with business power.
and what will make the west cooperate? the fact that the world will not blindly follow losers , that their business not anymore need. the world will follow those that lead , in business, and if the anglo west refuse to cooperate with Those leading, then it will be them ,the ones that will self isolate from the business world ,and be left behind . and they will be forced into a submission to the new leaders in the world.. this already happened , with nasa , that was forced into a submission in space with russia.

did you really think the west ,was not embarrassed to have to pay russia , to travel to space?

US was forced into cooperation with russia in space , because they have no choice , they had no rockets to travel to ISS with humans , because if they don't cooperate , don't submit to russia , then they will have their space program , stopped, and unable to send anything to the ISS ,which russia was doing.


So get your facts rights , is not bullshit friendship ,what russia needs, i have never said that. it just proof , how small is your understanding of international politics. is SUBMISSION , to force through leadership the anglo west into cooperation with russia . this is exactly what china is doing , whenever they show business power and business leadership , they influence the west into cooperation.
look how latin america and most of europe embraced china business ,even after US sanctioned them ?

It is china business leadership and business power ,in important advanced things, what is waning , weakening US leadership and influence over the world. no longer US business in electronics can be used as a weapon ,of sanctions as they used to be , no longer US can use NASA as a weapon of influence ,to force nations into cooperation , if they want also development in space, if a superior business alternative exist or better priced ,with same quality exist.

Business power in the things , everyone wants and more enjoy ,is real power , this is the only thing that will give influence a nation over societies in the world , in a voluntary way and not into a forced one , as it will be , using force with a military invasion. China modern and innovative business ,business power is what is opening the doors wide and big , over the world , without firing a bullet.

again nothing to do with bullshit friendship with western politicians, but business power .
if american modern business industry refuse to cooperate with china ,then they are the ones that will be left behind . because the world will follow those business that leads.. and not the losers..

will you buy a car , that is over priced , if a superior ,higher quality alternative exist at a lower cost?
how about a computer? or how about space? will your business accept to pay 10x times more , for sending a satellite to space , if they can save a ton of money ,doing the same business with china?

business power and business leadership , this is what runs the world. the west created a system ,for a very long time without any competition and this is what is riding them as the dominant voice ,but china is disbanding it. not with bullets ,or bombs ,but with superior business. The anglo west can't invade the entire world if they want ,but they will not earn "Friendship" doing that. US military or NATO is only hated in every place they invade,against the will of those nations, but if your nation build the leading business, world societies more like ,the products they more like , they will become your fans ,and your followers and it will be impossible for the politicians in the west ,to block progress , block technology from china forever . the wave will end removing them .
look the example of tik tok , that trump wanted to bad but could not do. it was too popular in america.

So i stand by everything i said 100% . those that think that russia can be "Developed" with pipelines
and gas stations ,while allowing its enemies , to lead in space , to lead in advance electronics and entertainment ,are as fools as putin is. that don't understand leadership , don't understand true power. that is the one ,that you don't need to invade, to keep people aligned , and very interested in your business . what you have to offer them.. putin offer gas discounts and polite discourses . .and this is the problem with russia. is an outdated country with very insignificant influence over the world, with their business. this is why obama , correctly ,was making fun of russia, saying..
what does russia make? he knew the answer to that question , but his point was how very little ,next to nothing things russia have to offer the developed world. There is indeed very few things russians can feel proud , about their nation. Because their president have turned their nation development into a basically gas station pump , with missiles and tanks . and nobody , no nation who wants development will risk , losing their business with the leading west , for following a gas station outdated russia.

United States Power =  Business power.

If you replace their business with superior alternatives , then that power will end . and the only
other way they will have to pressure nations into obedience is with their military , but they can't invade their entire world. they will not be able to defeat the entire world into submission. they could not even invade venezuela , after trump want it do it , because all other south american nations ,including their allies said no . they knew very well , that a war in venezuela will destabilize their own nations too , because the entire amazon forest will become a battle field of mercenaries armed by russia and china to fight US military invasions.

They also were very smart enough to capture all other high tech developed nations too in asia, to integrate heavily their business with other advanced modern high tech economies too , like UK ,Europe , japan , south korea ,taiwan ,to make it very hard for russia and china , to ever lure them away from Anglo western created system. So this is why is extremely important , that Russia and china counter , fight back western business. specially the most important , more advanced , more popular ,more prestigious ones, from NASA to Semiconductors industry to Entertainment industry.
because those are the business more popular ,of the west. general public Automobile industry , no longer a big deal , every major power , even iran can build them. unless is a super sport car ,that compete with the western ones , it will not draw any attention .

so the strategy is very simple and very effective..

Nations will orbit ,follow the things ,that more draw their attention ,that more they like . that more
awe and impress them.  This is why russia is an outdated nation , it doesn't do anything ,that anyone
will want . and the only thing putin had ,that draw the attention of the world ,was its space program,
one that the moron , cut in half its budget.. so the only thing , Russia had ,to influence the world ,
was precisely the one that putin cut in half its budget.     if he is not the moron of the century ,
then no idea what else will be.  is unbelievable stupid , the decisions that putin makes . and to make it even more retarded , he then went to finance grandmas in baltics and israel ,soviet veterans of the world war 2.     So this is an example of why putin is terrible for russia.. he is trying to lure the world into russian orbit ,and create "Friends" with polite bullshit, with polite friendship , with bullshit charity , with bullshit sports.  he have no fucking clue of what he is doing. don't understand at all his enemies , don't understand what leadership is , and have zero understanding on how young generations think. he not even use the internet.. so how he expect to learn anything new if all he knows comes from his own mediocre government , full of yes man. ?



So this is why is a BIG DEAL , to dominate in space explorations ,because everyone love space ,
and dream to travel it. Space is a big deal , because not only attract the interest of other nations into your nation , but also lift the morale of all your citizens ,whenever you have success and do amazing things never done before. space not only promote business , but also encourage your younger generation to study science and engineering.. this is totally the opposite ,of what putin was doing
with all that bullshit olympics.. that people get lifetime injuries for getting a stupid medal.
what putin should be promoting is science and engineering, Architecture , arts , music , things
that can inspire millions and their benefits can last forever , and not bullshit epenis contest ,that last 2 weeks. in totally meaningless contest , kicking a ball , or running faster ? this are all distractions,
that while can be fun and interesting at times to watch ,just like any movie can be, but unfortunately , any physical abilities ,to jump higher or run faster , the real contribution to the nation development is zero . Russia is not a super economy ,and cannot afford to waste any money on distractions ,like the west can do.

this is why all top billionaires in america are investing in building space ship , to become first with space tourism.

this is why is a big deal with dominating in semiconductors, everyone love smart phones , love computers , love video games , and they are extremely important for every area of science too ,
and for automobile industry and pharma industry and military industry.

this is why is a terrible idea , to waste 100 billions $ of dollars hosting sports events , as putin did from 2010 to 2018, in complete distractions that in no way challenge the western system. this was money throw in to the garbage can.  specially in post covid19 world.  japan is now going to host the next olympics online ,without tourist ,because of covid19 pandemic.  

yes putin is an idiot.. that's exactly what he was trying to achieve.. create an amazing olympics,
to promote "Friendship with the west"    to soften their hearts.. with politeness and great olympics.

anyone who do a- n y thing to "make friends", with the very different west is a complete moron. ,and this is exactly what putin was doing with his olympics. To "impress" the west , and show the world that russia "is not oudated", by expending a fortune in olympics . apparently putin thinks ,that "being modern nation" means shiny new buildings and infrastructure.. but is not infrastructure , what putin needs to modernize..  
what needs modernization is the russian economy , the russian education system , the russian politics and russian culture needs modernization. to stop the stupid gas station , that is taking most of the engineers and scientist that russia produce. and instead transform Russia economy , into a advance tech and space , based economy country.. that directly counters, and fight US and its asian tech colonies and challenge their high tech domination.   once those nations are defeated in their business ,the anglo western empire will collapse . because nations will not blindly follow losers , if superior business exist for them.

Russia don't need bullshit "friends" , what Russia needs is leadership ,to dominate in business. to follow the example of china and start challenging the western most popular and advanced business. to steal the show and draw the world attention in a very positive way towards them and away of the west.

it will be even better if they coordinate with china this major changes in their economic model ,so they don't end in competition with china too most successful business .. is with the west that the business fight needs to be done.   Russia do have major potential in space ,and putin should be investing there ,as much that idiot invested in sports.

GarryB wrote:Russia needs order.

A situation where a country like the US with the support of goons known collectively as the west are not held accountable for actions they themselves have deemed illegal and use to lynch selective countries, then there can not be stability and peace.

The EU will slam Bulgaria for building walls to stop illegal migrants from entering their country, but will ignore the Baltic states having large sections of their populations being declared non citizens because their standard level in the native language is not good enough to get citizenship in their own country.

BTW there are probably a few Brits who might fail such tests simply because they have strong accents...

The west will continue to become less relevant as they continue the charade of blaming everyone else for breaking the rules they made up and continue to selectively break themselves when it suits them.

You call the US a business power, but if that were true there would be no need to attack their rivals with sanctions and other illegal measures to force third party countries to buy US productions in preference.

The US is not a business power any more... look through your stuff... is there anything made in the US?

I could only find a shotgun and a 303.

I remember an interview with Jack Ma

There he basically said, that the US business model, of essentially offloading domestic production to 3rd world countries where the labour is cheaper - was hardly a bad one

That indeed, it brought a massive amount of revenue not only to American multinationals, but through them to the US treasury via taxes

The problem he claimed, is that the Americans took that money and instead of using it to invest in infrastructure, healthcare, education and other parts of their own country, they invested it instead into funding military interventions, exorbitant military-industrial programs, military bases around the world and costly occupations. It all sucked up a great amount of the profits the US was otherwise making, and as a result they're falling behind relative to other countries

Breaking news!
Putin is probably a male!

Personally I would have brought her for myself but if Trump needed a solid it's a bro move

If I was Vlad, half of the babies born between my presidency would probably be mine.

Vladimir Putin is 69 today.

30 years younger then Biden looks/behaves.