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    Post  Vann7 Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:10 pm

    kvs wrote:

    So the moderator of the interview session of Putin at the St. Petersburg Economics Forum is a full blown 5th column scumbag.
    Putin noted that the "Capitol Hill insurrection" was just demonstrators unhappy with the clear problems during the election.   Over 450
    people were arrested and 100 of them are being subjected to criminal prosecution for attempted overturn of government.    
    (Meanwhile Russia gets lectured about "democracy" when some grifter clown like Nahalny does not win the presidential election.
    None of Nahalny's protestors is facing criminal prosecution.   Nahalny is facing the music for his real crimes that predate any
    NATzO sponsored political activism on his part.)

    The moderator then laid into Putin for supposedly supporting the "insurrection" in the Washington and "risked" being banned by
    social media.   Putin essentially said he could care less if some western social media blocked him or any Russian government
    account.  People love to bitch that Putin is some tyrant.   But here you see some worm practically spitting in his face at a public
    forum.   In real tyrannies there are no such "moderators" of "journalists" pushing foreign propaganda narratives.

    what you talking about ? Suspect

    Russia is not a democracy by any means or stretch of the imagination . There is no freedom of expression in Russia , you can be arrested for promoting gay rights in public . putin also by his finger can remove governors in russia , from people elected democratically if he don't like them .  his power over russia is at the level of kim jon un in north korea. he can replace the government , the prime minister as he did  with medvedev , he can replace ANYONE from the government he wants ,and replace it with anyone of his choice.. there is also censorship in russia for speaking badly about putin , you can go to jail for just insulting Putin.  is that a democracy for you? Suspect

    on top they can censor any media and censor any religion not approved by the state. and this have nothing to do with extremism , because they have no problems with muslim in caucasus of 60 year old ,to marry with 12 year old teen. Shocked   In Russia kidnapping and rape is legal against women , if they are muslim and both families agree with this. lol1

    so you show  just pure ignorance of what Russia really is.  For the only reason people think russia is a democracy is because there are elections every 4 years , but whats the point if they disqualify the opposition from participating?

    Russia is not a democracy , not a freedom of expression nation ,neither there is freedom of religion , and the president is the law , he can replace anyone by the finger , whether they were elected legally or not

    So putin is just a two steps behind from becoming a tyrant and what makes the difference , between a tyrant and putin , is that until now he is not killing people , it seems , at least , but eventually that idiot will go there .. to hold power if someone radically different to that moron , is about to get power to replace him.  

    im not a fan of navalny , but navalny is not popular in russia , never he was and he is not the one destroying the nation , but putin is.  if russia ever collapse it will be 100% to blame on putin and only on him. because that idiot have absolute power over everything in russia , he can replace anyone as easy as 1 2 3 over night ,and put them in jail if they insult him.  


    your terribly uneducated.. and brainwashed too , with that idiot .
    A  president that can't handle criticism is not a leader . but an insecure and incompetent idiot .
    and this is what putin is .  In the west , there was a democracy in the past , for more than 200 years , at least when it comes to freedom of expression , and all this freedoms are being systematically being removed since 2001 inside job terror attacks and now during this new pandemic event.


    The west is moving away from freedom and democracy , and russia under putin , never truly had
    a real democracy , but more like a cult , to putin .  Russia is becoming another north korea , populist nation ,with midget insecure president ,that can't handle criticism , reason why is illegal in the law and people can face jail ,for insulting putin.

    In short , Putin's rule Russia like an entry level tyrant , he by the hand can choose who will government and the budget of the entire nation , he have the last word. The laws in russia are written to accomodate that idiot desires , so just 1 man ,can change the constitution in russia. lol1
    and over extend his own powers  and rule forever if he desire, what kind of crap is that ?
    is that is not a dictator and tyranny , then no idea what is .  No

    Russia is a third world nation culture ,with third world economy ,based on gas stations and commodities and with an entry level dictatorship that is become worse and worse by the time he continue holding power. , run by one of the most insecure and incompetent president in russia in history . Only lenin and gorvashev were worse , but eventually he will surpass them , when that moron provoke a war with the west , for being so weak and incompetent , he will sooner or later he will provoke a war , for refusing to draw a clear line to the west.

    Russia have no future with that idiot in power , only thing can save russia , is that china becomes the leader of new world business and or europe divorcing from the west and becoming neutral ,effectively not allowing US to continue breaking Russia.

    So don't complain for the 5th column in russia . what you need to complain is for the lack of influence and leadership of the president . because everyone can be influenced , and if putin is so incompetent to not understand how to influence a significant number of his young generations of voting age , then is because he is a failure as a leader , a failure as an influencer . leaders job is not to micromanage things and putin does all thetime. leaders job is to influence society , to follow their lead.

    this is why putin is losing elections in cities to the liberals , he is very outdated president and highly insecure and doesn't know how to influence them. Russia needs a leader with a true vision for the modernization of the economy of the nation , that understand the new generations .

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    Post  auslander Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:09 pm

    I give thanks to 'Him' every day that I put vann7 on cosmic ignore. Every six months or so I in a fit of sadomasochism read one of his posts and every time I go to my admin section and make sure he's in death spiral ignore list. This is our new little blue girl Krist'lyanna for Sophia to raise. She is not three months old and already is way more cognizant than our boy vann in most any subject one wants to discuss. Vladimir Putin Thread - Page 24 1a10

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    Post  auslander Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:17 pm

    This meeting in but a few days between VVP and the new orcs will decide the next ten years, mark my words. Mother has had enough and come the meeting the red lines may well be crossed. The situation here is not tense, a better term would be determined. Everything and everybody is fluffed, buffed and ready to roll as needed, plain to see even by a blind and deaf amoeba.
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    Post  auslander Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:11 pm

    From a friend, a deeply trusted friend, who has been correct in regards to Mat Rossiya for the last 20 years, every event, every happening he predicted perfectly long or shortly before it happened. Make of it what you wish, I had no input on this, I will simply say that what greenbacks we have will be changed to rubles tomorrow morning, 09:01.

    "With VVP there is never coincidence. He gave an interview to NBC, then Russia 1. He was blunt about Red Lines, Nazis in Kiev, he challenges Zelinsky to remember Ze is a Jew, that the creation of two classes of citizens by language is what the Nazis did. And then Surkov appears. Talks about Donbass, taking all by Force. With him is Boradai. Boradai was the face of the special services that worked for Putin in Donbass.

    Coincidences?? Of course, this is all over Biden’s head, and all the heads of the West. But they are not missed by the military of Russia (and Belarus). And the special services. We’ve heard a lot from Naryshikin (SVR) of late. And Patrushev (Security Council). And Shoigu (MOD).

    The almost instant response in Syria to the IED bombing that killed one soldier and wounded 4-5 others. A UAV decapitation of al Nusra leadership. Shows Mil Intel and SOF excellence to pinpoint the target and blast them all. I suspect the colons of Kiev got very tight looking at the photos.

    Putin is going to war. Where? The Fools themselves will decide where they want to die and will cross the red line. And there is no bargaining to change this eventuality. Russia has nothing to give in a “bargain”. Russia stands at its borders and its spheres of interest. That’s all they want to protect. And they won’t change that. The US and West wants to destroy Russia. They will either back off, back down, change or they will be destroyed. Their armies in the field and their decision centers will go the way of al Nusra. But in larger scale.

    Ukraine—some say all the bridges will be taken out in minutes, trapping the Ukies and Nato between the Russian border and the River. A Cauldron of enormous scale rendered by salvos of thousands of missiles and rockets 10x the Southern Boiler, Debaltsevo and Ilovaisk put together. It will be the shortest war in modern history. 6-10 hours and abject surrender. I think this is what Putin will tell Biden. Cross the red line, Joe, and you will lose NATO and the EU, and Kiev is gone, too. And if Russia takes a missile hit, Camp David and the Pentagon will burn. Leave Ukraine, leave Syria and leave Russia alone. Don’t test us in the Arctic.

    Now let’s talk cyber crime, climate change and shutting down the head choppers on your payrolls."

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    Post  kvs Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:55 pm

    It is clear that NATzO is pathetically dismissive of Russia's military and industrial strength. Obummer's claim that "Russia does not make anything"
    really is NATzO's epitaph. These hubris-filled, half-educated exceptionalists who, like little children, think that they can create reality do not
    know what they are getting into. Watch the video by Mercouris I posted in the Russia-US thread, whom you do not like, who makes interesting
    observations about the demands that Uncle Swine-shit will expect Russia to bend to at the summit. That is some terminal delusion and that is what
    makes the US dangerous. It thinks it can pull off anything it wants and does not have self-preservation awareness that would limit such behaviour
    if sanity prevailed.

    Russia needs to take its red lines to white hot response. No bending over backwards. No appeasement. No wishy washy peacenik self-delusion
    that rational minds will prevail in the insane NATzO hyena pack. Hit so hard and so fast that they will not have time to blink. The severing of
    key bridges you describe in the course of half an hour would be a good move. MLRSing the Kiev regime paramilitaries posing as an army in the
    next few hours would fill in the response nicely. Let's see the NATzO turds blow their propaganda wad. They are like the boy who cried wolf
    and already demonized Russia. More of the same will get them nothing. They are going to have to expend blood and treasure to attempt to
    "create" the reality they crave. But they will fail. Russia is not Iraq or any of the easy targets they had in the past. Uncle Swine-shit was
    not capable of facing of against the Soviet army in 1945 and is not cable of facing off against the Russian army today.

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    Post  jhelb Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:32 am

    Netanyahu says his “close and personal relationship with the Russian President Vladimir Putin", allowed Israel to have a free hand to operate on its northern border.
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    Post  LMFS Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:40 pm

    US will hope that they can get real concessions from Russia in exchange for them temporarily loosening a bit their extortion, pretty much like mafia bosses would do, but they have actually quite little to buy Russia with

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    Post  kvs Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:00 pm

    LMFS wrote:US will hope that they can get real concessions from Russia in exchange for them temporarily loosening a bit their extortion, pretty much like mafia bosses would do, but they have actually quite little to buy Russia with

    They prove their true intentions with such tactics. Its 2021 and after 7 years of failed sanctions the expect to blackmail Russia with more
    sanctions. Washington deciders appear to be more than just in denial, they exhibit evidence of mental deficiency.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:27 pm

    jhelb wrote:Netanyahu says his “close and personal relationship with the Russian President Vladimir Putin", allowed Israel to have a free hand to operate on its northern border.

    That filthy sack of nazi-shaped worm-ridden dogshit is just trying to sow discord while he collects his crap and vacates the PMs office.

    I hope that evil fucker dies in a fire.  

    No, scratch that. I hope he survives the fire and languishes in screaming agony for months before the infection takes him.  Old Hob has a fire pit with Bibis name on it, and has set his minions to lay on more coal...  Twisted Evil

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Yesterday at 8:28 pm

    I doubt that Putin got vaccinated, since all the journalists who met him recently had to be quarantined for 2 weeks.
    Even if he was, the vaccine he got isn't being trusted by him/his own doctors.
    It's ironic that the US financed the Wuhan lab research to avoid the outbreak at home, but China successfully handled it while the created virus boomeranged & will continue to mutate & hit the West, its allies in Asia, & L. America for years to come.

    Putin's Best Yachts - A Place of Secret Meetings and Negotiations
    The next meeting between Putin and Lukashenko was remembered not so much by the political statements of the leaders of the two countries as by the so-called “informal part”. Vladimir Putin hosted Old Man on his luxury yacht "The Seagull". Let's make a reservation right away that the word "our", from a formal point of view, is not entirely correct. Officially, the yacht "Chaika" does not belong to Vladimir Putin. As well as the yacht "Olympia". However, despite the records in the documents, no one has the slightest doubt who actually owns this, without exaggeration, luxurious flotilla. On our channel, we have already done comparisons of aircraft and limousines of the presidents of the United States and Russia. You can find links to them under this video. Unfortunately, it is impossible to compare their yachts. The fact is that since Jimmy Carter sold the USS Sequoia presidential ship in 1977, US presidents were left without the commander-in-chief's yacht. The reason for this was mainly PR considerations. So our today's material will be devoted exclusively to the ships of the Russian leader. So, Putin's yachts. And we want to start our review with the Chaika yacht, on which Vladimir Vladimirovich rode the Belarusian Batka. The yacht "Leo Fan", or "Sirius", or "The Seagull" was launched in 2009, and in 2011 was bought by the Government of the Russian Federation. The yacht was built in Turkey. After the sale to Russia, it was renamed Sirius, but now the more Soviet version of the Seagull was chosen for the name of the country's main ship. According to official figures, the presidential office bought it for 30 million euros. Although, when compared with the cost of similar ships, this figure seems to be clearly underestimated. The yacht is 54 meters long and 9.5 meters wide. The cruising range is five thousand nautical miles, which allows for transatlantic travel. The maximum speed is 18 knots or 33 kilometers per hour.
    Surely the poor folks in Russia will enjoy watching them on TV/online & be proud that Putin has at least 2 yachts while the US President has none!

    "It's a shame to watch such performances": Sobol about Putin's words about Navalny and "Molotov cocktails"

    Contradictory US and Russian Messaging on the Biden-Putin Geneva Summit


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    Post  lancelot Yesterday at 10:01 pm

    The vaccine does not take effect immediately on the first dose. You need two take two doses widely spaced apart and wait a couple weeks after the second dose for it to have full effect.
    It can take well over a month for this.

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    Post  kvs Yesterday at 10:36 pm

    lancelot wrote:The vaccine does not take effect immediately on the first dose. You need two take two doses widely spaced apart and wait a couple weeks after the second dose for it to have full effect.
    It can take well over a month for this.

    The immune system does not have a perfect memory. The second dose is designed to make the immune system retain a better memory of the antibodies it
    produces. The first dose already generates an immune system response that can fight off an infection. But assuming you do not get infected in the weeks
    following the first dose, the immune system drops the priority on the production of antibodies. An infection before the second dose acts as the second dose.
    But the procedure is to give people two doses because the vast majority will not be infected before the second dose.

    There is a difference between having a real infection and having some virus proteins in the blood stream. The mRNA vaccines really need the second dose.
    The adenovirus vector vaccines are not the equivalent of a Covid-19 infection since these vectors produce soft infections that are easy for the immune
    system to fight and the viral proteins that are distributed by these vectors are subject to the same response as with the mRNA vaccine via blood stream
    loading after the killing of the modified adenovirus and any infested cells. Really, the best thing for Covid-19 is to get the infection and have the immune
    system learn how to deal with it since that is how our immune systems evolved to function. Vaccines serve as a cheat where the immune system has
    a priori information about the disease and it takes much less time to generate the antibodies than without the vaccine. This does not mean that everyone
    needs a vaccine as people have different levels of effectiveness when it comes to immune system operation.

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    Post  GarryB Today at 9:25 am

    They said at the start one of the reasons Sputnik V is so effective is that each dose is different... if they were the same then the second dose would be rather less effective in creating a response from the body.

    There is no evidence at all that being vaccinated prevents you carrying and spreading Covid even when it does not effect you, so even those with full vaccinations should still wash their hands regularly and be careful who they cough on...

    It's ironic that the US financed the Wuhan lab research to avoid the outbreak at home, but China successfully handled it while the created virus boomeranged & will continue to mutate & hit the West, its allies in Asia, & L. America for years to come.

    I would say hahahahahaha regarding all the money the US is spending on bio weapons in other countries how this bit them in the ass... geez they know how to piss away money like no other country on the planet.

    All these US funded bio labs all round the planet... had zero effect protecting the US from this shit, but nobody questions it at all... in fact they rush to blame the Chinese for it with a US funded lab... brilliant... they are not interested in the truth and that is why more than half a million of them suffocated to death in a painful way.

    But you are not interested in the truth are you Tsavo...

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