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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #28

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    Post  franco Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:36 am

    Good points, however while I'm comfortable with the ability of the Donbass troops to hold the line. Believe it would take a complete breakdown by the Ukrainian forces to allow the Donbass to go on the offensive to liberate the rest of their territories.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:54 pm

    GEROMAN -- I fell in love with #NATO -
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    Thank God I was wrong about the time frame.
    Local sources say bad weather situation and so muddy ground condition would not allow any movement.
    Good.

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    Post  Singular_Transform Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:13 pm

    franco wrote:Good points, however while I'm comfortable with the ability of the Donbass troops to hold the line. Believe it would take a complete breakdown by the Ukrainian forces to allow the Donbass to go on the offensive to liberate the rest of their territories.

    There is no such a target.

    Target is to incorporate Donbass back to Ukraine, without a good , old fashioned holocaust executed on the Russian speakers in that area.

    Russia doesn't need area , she have lot of empty land.

    It needs neighbours behaving sensibly, capable to live on they own, without the urge to blackmail on a daily basis.
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    Post  PhSt Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:21 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    franco wrote:Good points, however while I'm comfortable with the ability of the Donbass troops to hold the line. Believe it would take a complete breakdown by the Ukrainian forces to allow the Donbass to go on the offensive to liberate the rest of their territories.

    There is no such a target.

    Target is to incorporate Donbass back to Ukraine, without a good , old fashioned holocaust executed on the Russian speakers in that area.

    Russia doesn't need area , she have lot of empty land.

    It needs neighbours behaving sensibly, capable to live on they own, without the urge to blackmail on a daily basis.

    How does this guarantee that Ukraine will not allow NATzO bases to be set up next to Russia's borders? This is a huge risk on the part of Russia, Ukrop government cannot be trusted to observe agreements, even when its under the pro Russian leadership of Yanukovych. I still believe that the best action for Russia is to liberate all of Ukraine, break it down into tiny republics, and then absorb it to the Federation. There will be some form of resistance, but I dont see this being different from subduing regions like Chechnya, with the right amount of reeducation, people of present day Ukraine will eventually identify themselves as Russian after a few generations.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:10 am

    RAGEX-WAR
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    The operating units of the Armed Forces of #Ukraine in Donbass are on full alert, according to the Ukrainian media, referring to their sources among the command of the Ukrainian army - #Donbass

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    in the previous days, DPR militia observed the transfer of the 1st armored Brigade of ukrainian forces from the Volnovakha area, southwest of Donetsk and its transfer to the Rubizhne settlement, northwest of Luhansk..
    this includes 103 tanks, 36 Gvozdika 122 mm & Acacia 152 mm self-propelled howitzers, 18 MLRS Grad units..
    the transfer does not prepare for an attack on the LPR, but as reported it covers the border from Luhansk to Xarkov, where ukraine has no troops at all there, near the russian border..

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    The MoD of #Ukraine is massively pulling heavy armored vehicles, as well as other weapons, to #Crimea. The same actions were noted the other day in #Donbass, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are strengthening their positions near the borders with #Russia.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:29 am

    Those Crimean forces would be destroyed in minutes if not seconds.
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    Post  LMFS Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:37 am

    Are they going to start an imaginary war with Russia? Nothing would surprise me now from the ukies respekt

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    Post  medo Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:24 am



    DNR Army positions this days. Everything as usual.
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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:08 am

    From the video, the Kiev regime forces deploy their attack hardware inside residential points they control. So they use human shields,
    these NATzO "forces of democracy".

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:12 am

    JohninMK wrote:RAGEX-WAR
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    The operating units of the Armed Forces of #Ukraine in Donbass are on full alert, according to the Ukrainian media, referring to their sources among the command of the Ukrainian army - #Donbass

    Geo_monitor
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    in the previous days, DPR militia observed the transfer of the 1st armored Brigade of ukrainian forces from the Volnovakha area, southwest of Donetsk and its transfer to the Rubizhne settlement, northwest of Luhansk..
    this includes 103 tanks, 36 Gvozdika 122 mm &  Acacia 152 mm self-propelled howitzers, 18 MLRS Grad units..
    the transfer does not prepare for an attack on the LPR, but as reported it covers the border from Luhansk to Xarkov, where ukraine has no troops at all there, near the russian border..

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    The MoD of #Ukraine is massively pulling heavy armored vehicles, as well as other weapons, to #Crimea. The same actions were noted the other day in #Donbass, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are strengthening their positions near the borders with #Russia.

    Not even thinking about the nonsense about provoking Russia in Crimea (which would cause a response felt well inside Ukraine), and only thinking about the heavy vehicles brought from the ukies near the conflict lines in the donbass, can Russia obliterate those using only artillery from well within Russia proper?
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:40 am

    Essentially.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:08 am

    JohninMK wrote:...ukhoi Su-57 Felon
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    The MoD of #Ukraine is massively pulling heavy armored vehicles, as well as other weapons, to #Crimea. The same actions were noted the other day in #Donbass, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are strengthening their positions near the borders with #Russia.[/i]

    Are they trying to set the speed record on collective suicide?

    Crimea alone has enough personnel and firepower to turn entire Ukraine to Somalia


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    Post  flamming_python Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:41 am

    Somalia would be an improvement

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    Post  franco Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:58 am

    Under the surreal heading, the Defense website announcing today the transfer of 21 WWII Russian soldiers remains discovered last year in Ukraine and in return transferred 3 Ukrainian soldiers remains discovered in Russia.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12349051@egNews
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:32 am

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    There was some chatter about a "full combat readiness" of the Ukrainian forces in Donbas today.

    From my understanding, the source of this information is http://strana.ua, not necessarily a trusted site. Take with a big grain of salt.
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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:32 am

    JohninMK wrote:Status-6
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    There was some chatter about a "full combat readiness" of the Ukrainian forces in Donbas today.

    From my understanding, the source of this information is http://strana.ua, not necessarily a trusted site. Take with a big grain of salt.

    Their fantasies are the only thing combat ready.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:46 am

    The kind of technicals delivered recently to Donbass.

    The ground still looks to be frozen. Won't be for much longer.


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    Post  VARGR198 Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:17 am

    Technicals are a useful cheap vehicle (compared to military vehicles) to use in rapid movements. Russia using its experience in Syria rearmed some of its forces with technicals instead of BMPs and other armored vehicles. In a flat open landmass they can flank hostile forces well (such as Isis did to the Russian and Syrian forces in Palmyra a few years ago).
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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:33 am

    VARGR198 wrote:Technicals are a useful cheap vehicle (compared to military vehicles) to use in rapid movements. Russia using its experience in Syria rearmed some of its forces with technicals instead of BMPs and other armored vehicles. In a flat open landmass they can flank hostile forces well (such as Isis did to the Russian and Syrian forces in Palmyra a few years ago).

    Well they now have better atgm that can be used at very long distances so they don't need armored vehicles for such operations.

    Most imporrant thing is to train your soldiers and use good tactics. South african armored cars destroy lot of t-54 back in cold war because they used them better than angola used its tanks.

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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:29 am

    USSR/Russia invented technicals around the time of the 1917 revolution. They were known as tachankas.

    Wikicrappia tries to attribute tachankas to Ukraine. BS. The word tachka is Russian and not "originally Ukrainian".
    This is yet more of the theft of Russian history by western sponsored vermin.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:41 pm

    How does this guarantee that Ukraine will not allow NATzO bases to be set up next to Russia's borders?

    HATO bases are of no importance... HATO bases in the stans and in georgia and finland and indeed Turkey and even Ukraine... so what... what difference will such bases make except as target coordinates for the first artillery strikes.

    If there are no HATO bases in Ukraine what justification could they use to nuke them if WWIII kicks off?

    HATO forces on Russian borders are cannon fodder... during WWII when Germany invaded a European country the local forces normally rushed to the border and were often cut to ribbons and surrounded and very easily destroyed.

    Having to spend billions of trillions of dollars to fix the Ukraine and fix their economy and they will still not be satisfied and Russia will still be the bad guy for tricking them to side with the west... much better for the HATO forces to go in there and give them the land of milk and honey they were expecting...

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:06 am

    The weather in eastern Ukraine is definitely warming up. The window of opportunity is closing.

    Meanwhile, its all Russia's fault

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    1/3 IMPORTANT:Statement by the MoD of #Ukraine 1 hour ago

    “The Command of the Russian Armed Forces provokes increased tensions in the temporarily occupied territory in Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Thus, the units of the first and second army corps of

    2/3Group of Russian occupation troops are brought to higher levels of combat readiness.The enemy's personnel were withdrawn from vacation,sent ahead of schedule to the places

    3/3of service of persons who were undergoing treatment in medical institutions, replenishment of ammunition of advanced units is carried out.”

    (Watch https://youtu.be/XLE5KY6GULU)

    Whilst NATO has nothing to do with Ukraine Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Isos Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:14 am

    That's so embarassing to have that flag behind. lol1

    They are sticky while NATO doesn'y give a fuck about them.

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    Post  franco Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:15 am

    JohninMK wrote:The weather in eastern Ukraine is definitely warming up. The window of opportunity is closing.

    Meanwhile, its all Russia's fault

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    1/3 IMPORTANT:Statement by the MoD of  #Ukraine 1 hour ago

    “The  Command of the Russian Armed Forces provokes increased tensions in the temporarily occupied territory in Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Thus, the units of the first and second army corps of

    2/3Group of Russian occupation troops are brought to higher levels of combat readiness.The enemy's personnel were withdrawn from vacation,sent ahead of schedule to the places

    3/3of service of persons who were undergoing treatment in medical institutions, replenishment of ammunition of advanced units is carried out.”

    (Watch https://youtu.be/XLE5KY6GULU)

    Whilst NATO has nothing to do with Ukraine Laughing Laughing

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    Noticed the old warrior joined us on site for a look see yesterday but no comment from the local perspective.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:03 am

    franco wrote:
    Noticed the old warrior joined us on site for a look see yesterday but no comment from the local perspective.
    Feel for him and his family. Must be worrying times.

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