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    Yemeni Conflict: News #3

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    Post  Kiko Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:23 pm

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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:35 am


    Attack on Vessel ZOGRAFIA

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:29 am

    Given that the Houtis have shown the World the impotence of the USN in protecting the West's maritime trade, whilst the evil Russian and Chinese trade continued, the US had to do something. Hey, why not stop all traffic by making it a war zone. That will show them. Brilliant.

    This will put the US/SA relationship on a knife edge. Will SA allow the US to use its bases? Or will anyone else in the area? Or will it be purely a naval operation?

    Washington Post via OSINTdefender@sentdefender

    The Biden Administration has reportedly now agreed with U.S. Defense Officials of the need for a Large-Scale Sustained Military Operation against the Houthi Terrorist Group in Western Yemen, following 10 Days of Missile and Airstrikes which have Failed to End the Houthi’s Attacks on Commercial Shipping in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden.

    Officials have stated that they do not expect for the Operation to Drag-On for Years like previous Wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, but that they will not have a End Date set for the Operation.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:38 am

    A perfect opportunity for a trap for the US... Another costly, multi year long war.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:47 pm

    Unmanned vehicles are a new field, so I would think this would be an enormous opportunity for Russia and Iran and their Houthie allies the US keeps linking together to get some experience with underwater and water surface unmanned attack drones...

    Would be relatively cheap and simple for the Russians and Houthies and Iran but rather difficult and complicated for the US and her allies.

    Surface running drones with HE payloads as we have seen can be shot via deck mounted machine guns, but imagine something operating 1m below the water that cannon and HMG rounds wont hit properly... like a torpedo, but really more like a cruise missile.

    The problem with shooting things that are in the water is that the more powerful the round is, the less effective it is, so a pistol round might travel a metre or so through water before slowing down to become harmless, but a HMG might shatter into fragments on impact with the water.

    Neither of which having the energy to penetrate an underwater drone and set off its payload....

    The US and UK were so generous in helping Kiev with their attacks on the Russian Black Sea Fleet, I am sure the Russian Navy would be happy to return the favour...

    When the shipping is so close to the coast like it is in this region then Smerch rocket batteries would be amazingly effective at delivering death and fire from the sky.

    Those US ships have the best air defence systems the Americans have and it also has the best SAMs that the American military has, but getting to 20km from the shore and discovering a Grad battery when they open up with 6 launch vehicles firing 240 122mm rockets at your ships and you have a problem... because those rockets are light and cheap and they could launch those all day for the price of maybe one or two of the hundreds of SAMs you fire back.

    This is an economic blockade so blocking traffic and getting the US to waste more money is achieving Houthie goals because the money and time and effort used against them is reducing the money and effort being directed at the  Palestinians.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:20 pm

    The plan continues, if you won't let our mates the Israelis through then no-one will pass because we will make it a war zone.

    This is the Daily Mail in the last hour..

    British and US troops have hit Houthi missile sites in Yemen with a second wave of joint airstrikes, US officials have said. They used warship and submarine-launched Tomahawk missiles, as well as fighter jets, to take out Houthi missile storage sites and launchers, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    The joint operation comes after US and UK warships and jets hit more than 60 targets in 28 locations on Thursday January 11. That was the first US military response to what has been a persistent campaign of Houthi drone and missile attacks on commercial ships since the start of the Israel-Hamas war in October.

    It comes as Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and US president Joe Biden had a phone call this evening in which they discussed the ongoing attacks on Red Sea vessels by the Iranian-backed militia.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12993669/British-troops-hit-Houthi-targets-Yemen-second-time.html

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:49 am

    US Navy Seals couldn't even board a ship, fell in the water and "sank".


    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/22/us/navy-seals-ingram-chambers.html

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:58 am

    GarryB wrote:Unmanned vehicles are a new field, so I would think this would be an enormous opportunity for Russia and Iran and their Houthie allies the US keeps linking together to get some experience with underwater and water surface unmanned attack drones..
    European navies are investing big in autonomous naval vessels. This is their latest programme

    https://www.defensenews.com/unmanned/2024/01/19/estonia-kicks-off-work-on-semi-autonomous-vessel-for-european-navies/

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    Post  ahmedfire Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:56 am

    to take out Houthi missile storage sites

    HAHAHAHA , the problem with US and generally the western politicians they think the non western people have less brain cells .

    Houthi storages extending inside mountains from Saada to Amran, Sanaa, Dhamar and Ibb .

    Cruise missiles will feel desperate .

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:05 am

    US Navy Seals couldn't even board a ship, fell in the water and "sank".

    Wonder about all the amazing kit they carry and how it must make swimming rather difficult for it to be such a problem... almost like they are more interested in looking cool than getting the job done.

    European navies are investing big in autonomous naval vessels. This is their latest programme

    The problem is that the west can't do cheap and expendable... to be useful it will need modern equipment and systems which will make it hugely expensive and being unmanned there wont be anyone to fix anything so it will be terribly fragile and prone to failure... not a great combination.

    In comparison the sea surface drones the UK special forces used on the Russians are more like surface running torpedoes... I am sure the Russians could quickly upgrade and improve them and create their own versions super cheap that could navigate the width of the waterway there next to Yemen and essentially be able to "hunt " surface ships.

    It could tow an antenna receiver for GLONASS signals to navigate but operate a metre or so underwater which will protect it from small arms and HMG and light cannon fire... they could be incredibly disruptive to civilian and military shipping... the GLONASS receiver could be tiny and very hard to hit but on the surface to navigation signal should be loud and clear... it could probably even drop it when it gets close enough so the target gets little or no warning it is under attack.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:55 am

    The participation of 6 countries in the aggression against Yemen last night.

    The governments of the United States, England, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands and Bahrain said in a joint statement that they targeted 8 military bases of the Yemeni Ansarullah movement.

    The Pentagon announced a little while ago that tonight's attacks on Yemen are the "most important" since January 12. Yemen confirms that the strikes are the most violent since the beginning of the aggression against the country.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:59 am

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    The US has called the campaign against the Houthis in Yemen Operation Poseidon's Archer - CNN.

    The operation involves a more organized, formal and potentially long-term approach to military action in Yemen, where the US will target Houthi infrastructure.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:01 am

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    Vice President of the Ansar Allah Media Office Nasr ad-Din Amer:

    "We will not leave Gaza alone if the whole unjust world unites against us. We are one nation that lives together or martyrs together, and we will not allow anyone to divide us and isolate one from another
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    Post  nomadski Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:20 pm

    I said before that all efforts should be concentrated against Israeli aggression in Gaza . Interception of military supplies by the Yanks and co , should be done , by the axis forces ,  once these land in a port in Israel , and before they are distributed to troops before use . Yanks and co , are NOT targeting Hezb Allah forces ! Why not ? They are also putting pressure on Israel , like Ansar Allah . Therefore the reason is genuinely the danger and disruption to their commercial shipping . Ansar Allah should stop attacks against all shipping in Bab-el-Mandab and instead target supplies reaching Israel , in their ports . The same can be said for Hezb Allah . Iraqi resistance has got it right , by targeting Israeli ports . Iran of course can directly retaliate in open waters , away from shipping lane choke points  . Any troops not engaged in attacking movements of resistance forces , should be left alone . Only forces actively attacking  resistance forces are immediate and legitimate targets .




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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:38 am

    Who do you believe? Centcom as per below or the Houti 'it lasted 2 hours and we hit a destroyer'.

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    Lost amid all the other news breaking in the last 24 hours is one particularly disturbing story: the United States Navy lost a battle at sea yesterday.

    CENTCOM put out an anodyne press release yesterday stating that afternoon, "Iranian-backed Houthi terrorists fired three anti-ship ballistic missiles from Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen toward the U.S.-flagged, owned, and operated container ship M/V Maersk Detroit, transiting the Gulf of Aden. One missile impacted in the sea. The two other missiles were successfully engaged and shot down by the USS Gravely (DDG 107). There were no reported injuries or damage to the ship."

    All well and good... but as it turned out there was a lot more to the story. This engagement occurred while two American merchantmen - the Maersk Detroit and the Maersk Chesapeake - were attempting to run the Bab al-Mandeb from south to north while being covered by the USS Gravely. An AEGIS destroyer's defensive umbrella should have turned this transit into a milk run - except it didn't.

    CENTCOM admits that one of the Houthis' tactical ballistic missiles - undemanding targets as far as such things go - got through the Gravely's interceptors. What they neglected to mention was that it struck about a hundred meters from the Maersk Detroit, and that after the attack the convoy aborted the transit and retreated back into the Arabian Sea rather than press on into enemy fire.

    Was retreat the correct decision at the moment? Probably, the Gravely was shepherding two lumbering merchantmen and facing unsuppressed shore batteries of unknown strength and capability in broad daylight, quite possibly without adequate air cover given the ambiguities of the Eisenhower's exact station in the Red Sea and the limited combat radius of its air wing.

    Was this operational plan inadequate? Almost certainly - reading between the lines, it reeks of a complacent assumption that Houthi missile batteries had actually been suppressed by a few rounds of air raids and that a single AEGIS destroyer could handle anything the Houthis could throw at them with no need for additional contingency planning. In the event neither of these assumptions were correct - and because of it a convoy covered by one of the US Navy's premier warships retreated from a battle that was going badly.

    Perhaps the Task Force command should stop trying to shape narratives on this website and get to work on getting the Bab al-Mandeb back open to Western shipping, because right now that particular pool looks very closed.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:31 am

    Mmmm, I wonder where from and where to?

    This is the downside of the profitable shift of military logistics onto civilian ships. Mind you the Russians do the same on the Syrian Express, which also allows then through the Bosporus.

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    Maersk Shipping Company acknowledges that the two ships targeted by the Yemeni armed forces yesterday were carrying American military equipment.


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    I wrote about that a while ago - a fleet can't stay on sea for ever - it needs supplies - but West did not prepare vessels for that - because they only fought weak opponents. But now those "civilian" supply vessels are a target - and that will force that fleet to get further away from the coasts.

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    Post  ahmedfire Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:49 am


    Only good guys can pass Laughing

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    Post  nomadski Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:19 pm

    Is there nothing else that can be done for Gaza ? Is A going to lead to B or C ? What reason or evidence do we have for believing this ? What if this went on for another month and still no movement on Gaza ?



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XVOJfyJ1i_g

    At the moment , Israeli ports ( Mediterranean ports and perhaps Red Sea ports ) and airports operate normally . All supplies can be diverted to these ports . Also any Ship hit using the Suez canal , can use the cape of Good Hope route . The additional cost of fuel is about a 25% increase . This is passed on to the consumer in Europe and they hardly notice it . The retaliation by Yank and Poodle , against Yemen is costly no doubt . Unless all Israeli ports face difficulties , and they feel the pinch , then a singular approach by Yemen is not enough . They can bear the costs and continue with Gaza siege .
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    Post  nomadski Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:41 am




    All very confusing now ! Like this punch and Judy show . Anyone who gets hold  of a stick , beats on anyone without a stick . The British seem to be dragging their heels a bit " .....our aircraft-carrier has a propeller problem ... " Yemen getting hit . But who should Yemen hit ? The crocodile ? The Monkey ? The Cat ? The Skunk ? Or good old Jewdy ( Israel ) ?

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    The Yemenis are like Honey Badgers of the Arab world . They deserve the title of champion and leader of the Arabs .

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:11 am

    This thing is so hilarious ... Laughing Laughing Laughing

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/100885

    How to avoid problems with Houtis?
    Rise a portrait of Vladimir Putin, who is officially a guardian angel of the Red Sea traffic for a while Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Hole Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:23 pm

    Maybe Maersk shoul register in Russia. angel

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    Post  PhSt Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:12 am

    Russia needs to send thousands of naval drones to all groups hostile to NATzO that operate in this area while providing them with targeting data with its recon drones. This needs to happen ASAP. NATzO warships need to sink in the Red Sea this year. And this is NOT an escalation in any way, NATzO already escalated when they provided naval drones and targeting data to their Ukranian vassals. Russia is simply giving back the favor. attack

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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:08 am


    Targeting a British oil ship (Pollux) in the Red Sea with a large number of appropriate naval missiles, and the strikes were accurate and direct.

    https://twitter.com/army21ye/status/1758740938334110102

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