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Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #3
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Soyuz MS-14 docking
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1566895071
The docking navigation system that failed was Ukr junk. Good thing that Russia is eliminating reliance on such junk used in the name of
brotherhood of the peoples. Let those peoples deal with their own affairs and swim in their own sh*t.
The docking navigation system that failed was Ukr junk. Good thing that Russia is eliminating reliance on such junk used in the name of
brotherhood of the peoples. Let those peoples deal with their own affairs and swim in their own sh*t.
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Ukr chimps were getting ready to spooge themselves with joy of yet another Russia fail. But it turned out that the failure
originated from a Ukr device. Rogozin was being too diplomatic not pointing this out.
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"Roskosmos" plans to restore the center of space communications at Shkolny near Simferopol
As reported by the Crimean news agency Kryminform on August 26, 2019, the State Space Corporation Roscosmos will spend 1.8 billion rubles on the equipment of space communication centers in the Moscow, Tver regions and Crimea. Relevant information is published on the public procurement portal.
Antenna with a diameter of 32 meters of the TNA-400 radio telescope of the former NIP-10 (ground measuring station No. 10, Simferopol-28, military unit 14109, Kucher US) in the village of Shkolnoye, Simferopol District (Crimea) (c) www.c-inform. info
“The network of the ground-based deep spacecraft control complex is designed to provide continuous and stable control of domestic and international spacecraft in deep space on the flight paths to the Moon, Mars and other celestial bodies of the solar system operating in the X- and Ka-bands, as well as providing conducting fundamental scientific research in deep space, ”the statement of work for the component part of experimental design says.
As part of the development of the structure and systems of the ground-based deep-space spacecraft control complex in the period 2018-2025, it is necessary to create three long-range space communication centers at the Bear Lakes (Moscow Region), Kalyazin (Tver Region) and Shkolnoye (Simferopolsky area). The indicated points are created for network ground-based complexes for controlling spacecraft in deep space (NKU DKA2025).
To ensure the flight control of promising spacecraft, communication centers will be equipped with unified ground-based radio complexes with antenna systems 32 m, 12 m in diameter (Jupiter-M-32, Jupiter-M-12). To ensure the operation of high-quality and reliable control of spacecraft, the creation of the basic elements of ground-based Ka-band radio systems is provided.
The initial (maximum) contract price is 1 billion 821 million rubles until 2022. Payment for the execution of the contract will be made in stages, for 2019 the amount provided is 245.1 million rubles. The deadline is November 2025.
On the bmpd side, we recall that in the Shkolnoye village of the Simferopol district of Crimea there was one of the most important Soviet communications centers with spacecraft - the NIP-10 created in 1957 (ground measuring station No. 10, Simferopol-28, military unit 14109, Kucher military unit) ), subordinate to the Central (Main) Directorate of Space Facilities of the Strategic Missile Forces (Strategic Missile Forces). The basis of the NIP-10 was the 32-meter radio telescope TNA-400, commissioned in 1962. Also in Shkolnoye there was a school of junior specialists in space assets management and a separate battalion of maintenance of a spare landing strip for the Buran reusable spacecraft. After the transfer of these military units to the armed forces of Ukraine, they were disbanded in 1998. NIP-10 was transferred to the control of the National Space Agency of Ukraine (NSAU), but in 2002 it was also liquidated, after which it was plundered,
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3753387.html
As reported by the Crimean news agency Kryminform on August 26, 2019, the State Space Corporation Roscosmos will spend 1.8 billion rubles on the equipment of space communication centers in the Moscow, Tver regions and Crimea. Relevant information is published on the public procurement portal.
Antenna with a diameter of 32 meters of the TNA-400 radio telescope of the former NIP-10 (ground measuring station No. 10, Simferopol-28, military unit 14109, Kucher US) in the village of Shkolnoye, Simferopol District (Crimea) (c) www.c-inform. info
“The network of the ground-based deep spacecraft control complex is designed to provide continuous and stable control of domestic and international spacecraft in deep space on the flight paths to the Moon, Mars and other celestial bodies of the solar system operating in the X- and Ka-bands, as well as providing conducting fundamental scientific research in deep space, ”the statement of work for the component part of experimental design says.
As part of the development of the structure and systems of the ground-based deep-space spacecraft control complex in the period 2018-2025, it is necessary to create three long-range space communication centers at the Bear Lakes (Moscow Region), Kalyazin (Tver Region) and Shkolnoye (Simferopolsky area). The indicated points are created for network ground-based complexes for controlling spacecraft in deep space (NKU DKA2025).
To ensure the flight control of promising spacecraft, communication centers will be equipped with unified ground-based radio complexes with antenna systems 32 m, 12 m in diameter (Jupiter-M-32, Jupiter-M-12). To ensure the operation of high-quality and reliable control of spacecraft, the creation of the basic elements of ground-based Ka-band radio systems is provided.
The initial (maximum) contract price is 1 billion 821 million rubles until 2022. Payment for the execution of the contract will be made in stages, for 2019 the amount provided is 245.1 million rubles. The deadline is November 2025.
On the bmpd side, we recall that in the Shkolnoye village of the Simferopol district of Crimea there was one of the most important Soviet communications centers with spacecraft - the NIP-10 created in 1957 (ground measuring station No. 10, Simferopol-28, military unit 14109, Kucher military unit) ), subordinate to the Central (Main) Directorate of Space Facilities of the Strategic Missile Forces (Strategic Missile Forces). The basis of the NIP-10 was the 32-meter radio telescope TNA-400, commissioned in 1962. Also in Shkolnoye there was a school of junior specialists in space assets management and a separate battalion of maintenance of a spare landing strip for the Buran reusable spacecraft. After the transfer of these military units to the armed forces of Ukraine, they were disbanded in 1998. NIP-10 was transferred to the control of the National Space Agency of Ukraine (NSAU), but in 2002 it was also liquidated, after which it was plundered,
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3753387.html
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The docking navigation system that failed was Ukr junk. Good thing that Russia is eliminating reliance on such junk used in the name of
brotherhood of the peoples. Let those peoples deal with their own affairs and swim in their own sh*t.
I am surprised Ukrainian components weren't replaced much sooner
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This is very good news. There is always a deficit of orbit to ground data transfer capacity including in the super rich west.
I know this from working on certain orbiting science instrument data analysis. Even if the space based instrument can generate
vast quantities of useful data, it has to toss a lot of it away since there is not enough ground station offload capacity.
I know this from working on certain orbiting science instrument data analysis. Even if the space based instrument can generate
vast quantities of useful data, it has to toss a lot of it away since there is not enough ground station offload capacity.
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PhSt wrote:
The docking navigation system that failed was Ukr junk. Good thing that Russia is eliminating reliance on such junk used in the name of
brotherhood of the peoples. Let those peoples deal with their own affairs and swim in their own sh*t.
I am surprised Ukrainian components weren't replaced much sooner
It is not common to strip deployed equipment of functional components. If it ain't broke, then don't fix it.
Now they have an excuse to upgrade this particular set of equipment. But that will not be cheap.
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https://ria.ru/20190826/1557911610.html
Flight tests of the return stage "Wing-SV" may begin in 2020
13:50 08/26/2019
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MOSCOW, Aug 26 - RIA News. Flight tests of the first Russian reusable ultra-lightweight cruise missile carrier under the Wing-SV project may begin in 2020, said Oleg Roskin, adviser to the managing director of the Myasishchev Experimental Engineering Plant.
"According to our plans, we want to go on a horizontal flight next year," he said at the Eurasian Aerospace Congress in Moscow on Monday.
This is not about a vertical launch from the cosmodrome, but about the discharge of a rocket in the air to test its aircraft flight. A rocket measuring six meters in length and 0.8 meters in diameter will travel at hypersonic speeds - up to 6 Mach numbers.
According to him, launches will be carried out from the Kapustin Yar training ground towards the Caspian Sea. The first full flight with a launch from the cosmodrome and return to the ground is planned in four years. “We plan such a flight in 2023,” added Roskin.
He recalled that the predecessor of Kryla-SV, the Baikal cruise missile, was demonstrated at Le Bourget in 2001. "Baikal" is 20 years ahead of its time, and we, in fact, are returning to it, "said Roskin.
In 2018, the RIA Novosti Advanced Research Foundation reported that a full-featured subsonic demonstrator of the return stage of the Krylo-SV launch vehicle will be created in Russia within four years. They specified that at first its tests will be carried out and the necessary adjustment in order to approach the next stage with minimal risks. The result of the research should be a full-featured demonstrator with a rocket engine, which will perform the entire test cycle, starting from the start and exit to the required height and ending with the return with landing.
Krylo-SV is a reusable winged stage of a light class rocket, an advance project of which was prepared and defended on May 29 at the FPI with a positive assessment. It was carried out by a working group, where JSC “EMZ named after V.M. Myasishchev” acted as the head company.
So what the hell is the purpose of this project exactly?
Flight tests of the return stage "Wing-SV" may begin in 2020
13:50 08/26/2019
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MOSCOW, Aug 26 - RIA News. Flight tests of the first Russian reusable ultra-lightweight cruise missile carrier under the Wing-SV project may begin in 2020, said Oleg Roskin, adviser to the managing director of the Myasishchev Experimental Engineering Plant.
"According to our plans, we want to go on a horizontal flight next year," he said at the Eurasian Aerospace Congress in Moscow on Monday.
This is not about a vertical launch from the cosmodrome, but about the discharge of a rocket in the air to test its aircraft flight. A rocket measuring six meters in length and 0.8 meters in diameter will travel at hypersonic speeds - up to 6 Mach numbers.
According to him, launches will be carried out from the Kapustin Yar training ground towards the Caspian Sea. The first full flight with a launch from the cosmodrome and return to the ground is planned in four years. “We plan such a flight in 2023,” added Roskin.
He recalled that the predecessor of Kryla-SV, the Baikal cruise missile, was demonstrated at Le Bourget in 2001. "Baikal" is 20 years ahead of its time, and we, in fact, are returning to it, "said Roskin.
In 2018, the RIA Novosti Advanced Research Foundation reported that a full-featured subsonic demonstrator of the return stage of the Krylo-SV launch vehicle will be created in Russia within four years. They specified that at first its tests will be carried out and the necessary adjustment in order to approach the next stage with minimal risks. The result of the research should be a full-featured demonstrator with a rocket engine, which will perform the entire test cycle, starting from the start and exit to the required height and ending with the return with landing.
Krylo-SV is a reusable winged stage of a light class rocket, an advance project of which was prepared and defended on May 29 at the FPI with a positive assessment. It was carried out by a working group, where JSC “EMZ named after V.M. Myasishchev” acted as the head company.
So what the hell is the purpose of this project exactly?
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The Baikal they are talking about is this I thnk:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baikal_(rocket_booster)
Which is basically a reusable rocket used to put satellites in orbit and then recover back to earth and be reusable.
It would be launched in flight from a rocket booster and use its own rocket motor to go up to position the satellite and come back down again and use a nose mounted jet engine to land by itself to be refuelled and equipped with a new satellite payload and then strapped to another rocket and taken up again...
Supposed to minimise costs through reuse of bits and reduce the amount of crap falling back to earth on successful launches.
...Ah, I see Hole beat me to it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baikal_(rocket_booster)
Which is basically a reusable rocket used to put satellites in orbit and then recover back to earth and be reusable.
It would be launched in flight from a rocket booster and use its own rocket motor to go up to position the satellite and come back down again and use a nose mounted jet engine to land by itself to be refuelled and equipped with a new satellite payload and then strapped to another rocket and taken up again...
Supposed to minimise costs through reuse of bits and reduce the amount of crap falling back to earth on successful launches.
...Ah, I see Hole beat me to it...
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The project is Krylo-SV, a single core verison of Baikal as a light-weight launcher.
It sounds like Roskosmos is planning a small-scale tech demonstrator for testing in 2020/21.
Not sure why the graphic shows the small demo on the top of an Angara URM-1 core? Maybe to test the return trajectory from a near orbital altitude?
link
It sounds like Roskosmos is planning a small-scale tech demonstrator for testing in 2020/21.
Not sure why the graphic shows the small demo on the top of an Angara URM-1 core? Maybe to test the return trajectory from a near orbital altitude?
link
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https://rusvesna.su/news/1567060603
EU astronauts (eunauts?) will only use American vehicles to get to the ISS.
LOL.
Will they ride Musk's incredible exploding crew modules? Or will they pretend that the Soyuz module they are riding is
really American?
EU astronauts (eunauts?) will only use American vehicles to get to the ISS.
LOL.
Will they ride Musk's incredible exploding crew modules? Or will they pretend that the Soyuz module they are riding is
really American?
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Sounds like some American rockets are getting close to being ready to go to the ISS and they need some guinea pigs to test them to make sure they are safe... why risk your own, and the Russians don't need to take a risk... lets test them on the Europeans... like little chimps they do as they are told because they are second partner to the US... so ISS is Russian and American and the Americans let the other non Russians come for the ride... it is important to know how things really work isn't it?
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Looks like the Europeans are not so keen to be guinea pigs it seems... sounds like they want to negotiate their own trips to the ISS...
https://tass.com/science/1075514
https://tass.com/science/1075514
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Russia space program ,needs to increase its level of security in Space and in the ground.
Anglo zionist powers are just one step away of a total economic war with Russia and China.
They already created a resolution for sanctions on Russia space program.. you heard that right in the next 1-3 years to be implemented.
And the Outdated President in chief is always 10-15 steps behind the west in Quality
controls ,accident prevention and security. So people should expect the sabotage
on Russia space program to increase dramatically.
That said just installing cameras in the ISS is not enough . Putin the outdated and slow
thinker ,refuse to recognize there is a real war on Russia and a real danger for any cooperation with the west on any matter. So the Russian space program will have to
start thinking in very hostile scenarios ,attacks of Pentagon on Russian Soyuz rockets and internal sabotage too.. When Europeans no longer board Soyuz ,is when Russia needs to be very worried. Because Anglozionist powers will not dare to attack soyuz with Europeans
inside ,that will be very dangerous for US or UK ,to do that ,it will not be forgiven by Germany and France. or Italy. neither their citizens if it is known. But once no longer
Europeans travel in Soyuz.. it will be open season in space for Pentagon.. to hunt soyuz rockets in space..in secrecy. which can be done.. using hypersonic raigun bullets or remote control mines.
So this means Soyuz rockets and any other will have to be armed with defensive radio electric weapons to block radio communications ,when traveling in some zones ,so nothing can explode in space by control remote.. just one example.. of things to enhance security.
also special forms of communications with laser from satellites that can be jammed will be ideal.. to not create interference on Soyuz operations..
also ,a cheap rescue space ship to capture and tow ,soyuz capsule or stabbed cosmonauts floating endlessly in space, that don't return to the ISS. .while doing a space walk.. ,should be a must. Also major monitoring stations in space ,that records with high velocity cameras..any movement of proyectiles moving in Soyuz and ISS direction tracked.. and also satellites to monitor from space ,at NATO major power military bases.. infra red images and radio electronic sensors of American warships and american and UK and anglo countries bases movements and operations during Soyuz launches.. to keep a close eye of any rail gun canon deployment anywhere in the world ,during Soyuz space flight. and track of any space drones and monitoring of US mini space shuttle orbiting earth.. could be full of hostile surprises.. like mines or kamikazi space drones
Is not paranoia at all.. but real world.. already they sabotage Russian soyuz with a drilling machine.. and Rogozing hinted at this ,and kremlin silence ,only reinforce this. and NASA will not stop there. IT is important to remember that the pentagon Space militarization plans.. that they say it OPENLY.. don't deny they intent to deny Russia space.. and even Russian media RT , has reported about this.. how US space force is to DENY US adversaries
any success in space.. The only hope i have is Putin don't return to politics next year.so that finally Russia space program can take off and major funding start ,for Russia full scale , space exploration race with full domination and militarization of space. The pentagon have been openly bragging about its minishuttle they have for 700 days in space orbit.. and its military potential.. how it drives nervous Russia military.. and Putin the moron ,still hoping for the west "to come back to its senses". But for me the only one that needs to come back to its senses is Putin.. the west will always reject and spit on Russia ,and Putin weakness invites them to continue their bullying and hostilities with impunity. and sabotages on Russia space program. and attacks on their military..as they do in Syria.
I will not be surprised that Russia lose cosmonauts in space, assassinated or poisoned with chemical weapons ,or simply shoot in their head or stabbed while doing a space walk.. and Putin the weak will later do nothing..other than a list of condolence to their families.. Is time for Russia to have a leader that grow some balls.. is not weak ,and polite with bullies and that is neither a moron ,and underestimate the determination of the west to spit on Russia and cause suffering on Russian citizens. just to send a message to the world, that no nation or citizen will be safe ,not even Russia cosmonauts or politicians , if they dare to not listen the west. Already they murdered 2 Russian ambasadors..the one in Turkey and the one to United Nations.. and Soyuz already sabotage.. and Putin's weak response will only encourage more attacks.
Anglo zionist powers are just one step away of a total economic war with Russia and China.
They already created a resolution for sanctions on Russia space program.. you heard that right in the next 1-3 years to be implemented.
And the Outdated President in chief is always 10-15 steps behind the west in Quality
controls ,accident prevention and security. So people should expect the sabotage
on Russia space program to increase dramatically.
That said just installing cameras in the ISS is not enough . Putin the outdated and slow
thinker ,refuse to recognize there is a real war on Russia and a real danger for any cooperation with the west on any matter. So the Russian space program will have to
start thinking in very hostile scenarios ,attacks of Pentagon on Russian Soyuz rockets and internal sabotage too.. When Europeans no longer board Soyuz ,is when Russia needs to be very worried. Because Anglozionist powers will not dare to attack soyuz with Europeans
inside ,that will be very dangerous for US or UK ,to do that ,it will not be forgiven by Germany and France. or Italy. neither their citizens if it is known. But once no longer
Europeans travel in Soyuz.. it will be open season in space for Pentagon.. to hunt soyuz rockets in space..in secrecy. which can be done.. using hypersonic raigun bullets or remote control mines.
So this means Soyuz rockets and any other will have to be armed with defensive radio electric weapons to block radio communications ,when traveling in some zones ,so nothing can explode in space by control remote.. just one example.. of things to enhance security.
also special forms of communications with laser from satellites that can be jammed will be ideal.. to not create interference on Soyuz operations..
also ,a cheap rescue space ship to capture and tow ,soyuz capsule or stabbed cosmonauts floating endlessly in space, that don't return to the ISS. .while doing a space walk.. ,should be a must. Also major monitoring stations in space ,that records with high velocity cameras..any movement of proyectiles moving in Soyuz and ISS direction tracked.. and also satellites to monitor from space ,at NATO major power military bases.. infra red images and radio electronic sensors of American warships and american and UK and anglo countries bases movements and operations during Soyuz launches.. to keep a close eye of any rail gun canon deployment anywhere in the world ,during Soyuz space flight. and track of any space drones and monitoring of US mini space shuttle orbiting earth.. could be full of hostile surprises.. like mines or kamikazi space drones
Is not paranoia at all.. but real world.. already they sabotage Russian soyuz with a drilling machine.. and Rogozing hinted at this ,and kremlin silence ,only reinforce this. and NASA will not stop there. IT is important to remember that the pentagon Space militarization plans.. that they say it OPENLY.. don't deny they intent to deny Russia space.. and even Russian media RT , has reported about this.. how US space force is to DENY US adversaries
any success in space.. The only hope i have is Putin don't return to politics next year.so that finally Russia space program can take off and major funding start ,for Russia full scale , space exploration race with full domination and militarization of space. The pentagon have been openly bragging about its minishuttle they have for 700 days in space orbit.. and its military potential.. how it drives nervous Russia military.. and Putin the moron ,still hoping for the west "to come back to its senses". But for me the only one that needs to come back to its senses is Putin.. the west will always reject and spit on Russia ,and Putin weakness invites them to continue their bullying and hostilities with impunity. and sabotages on Russia space program. and attacks on their military..as they do in Syria.
I will not be surprised that Russia lose cosmonauts in space, assassinated or poisoned with chemical weapons ,or simply shoot in their head or stabbed while doing a space walk.. and Putin the weak will later do nothing..other than a list of condolence to their families.. Is time for Russia to have a leader that grow some balls.. is not weak ,and polite with bullies and that is neither a moron ,and underestimate the determination of the west to spit on Russia and cause suffering on Russian citizens. just to send a message to the world, that no nation or citizen will be safe ,not even Russia cosmonauts or politicians , if they dare to not listen the west. Already they murdered 2 Russian ambasadors..the one in Turkey and the one to United Nations.. and Soyuz already sabotage.. and Putin's weak response will only encourage more attacks.
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Russian helicopters to be equipped with Yamal satellite communication system since 2020
The package of satellite communication services is planned to be provided in the next year to operators of Ansat and Mi-38 helicopters and then to civilian helicopters of other types
MOSCOW, September 2. /TASS/. Operators of helicopters produced in Russia will be able to take advantage of Yamal satellite communications system on board since 2020. Russian Helicopters holding and Gazprom Space Systems signed a relevant agreement, the helicopters manufacturer says on Monday.
"According to the agreement, operators of helicopters made in Russia will be able to use onboard satellite communication services since 2020," Russian Helicopters says.
"Gazprom Space Systems will provide satellite communication services and Internet access on board of helicopters made at Holding’s enterprises. Use of Yamal satellite communication system will provide such an opportunity," said Andrei Boginsky, the chief executive of Russian Helicopters, cited by the press service.
The package of satellite communication services is planned to be provided in the next year to operators of Ansat and Mi-38 helicopters and then to civilian helicopters of other types, he said. "This will make possible to significantly expand their functional opportunities and competitiveness," the press release says.
A subscriber network of satellite communications is also planned to be set up for operators of Russia-made helicopters. The concluded agreement provides provision of services for Russian and foreign customers and after-sale service of satellite communication systems mounted on helicopters.
Yamal satellite communication and broadcasting system was developed and is operated by Gazprom Space Systems.
https://tass.com/science/1075957
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https://www.interfax.ru/russia/675753
Mass arrests of perps trying to infiltrate a key Roscosmos facility. The arrests included 14 individuals and it is possible that another 36 got away.
Mass arrests of perps trying to infiltrate a key Roscosmos facility. The arrests included 14 individuals and it is possible that another 36 got away.
The alleged vandals, who were detained on September 8 at the key enterprise of Roscosmos, were found "not only cameras", but also" a lot of interesting things"," there is political affiliation and citizenship of their interest, " said the head of the state Corporation Dmitry Rogozin. According to him, police officers find out motives of detainees.
"I think not only the police will be interested in them," he added.
He recalled that they were detained in the Research and testing center of the rocket and space industry (SIC RCP), where all rocket engines are tested. The detention was up to the security perimeter managed by the departmental security "Roscosmos", the territory where there are tenants.
"At first a small group was detained, then it turned out that their comrades would appear. Comrades Packed, gave them to the police. Vandals or not vandals, but someone more interesting, it's not even important to me now, it's important for us that the security system worked," Rogozin said.
He decided to encourage those who ensured the safety of the territory of SIC RCP, and promised that the state Corporation will strictly monitor the safety of its enterprises.
"It's not about who got in, it's a slap in the face of the security system. If a blogger got in, God bless him, clean him up and let him go, and if some subversive group? My attitude to any infiltration, any violation of the negative. I do not recommend anyone to climb into the security perimeter, "the head of Roscosmos said. He promised that in this case, no one will feel sorry for: "bloggers, dancers or terrorists, what's the difference?"
Last Sunday, Roscosmos announced that the SIC RCP a day earlier detained 14 people. Presumably, they planned to damage the equipment. The state Corporation does not exclude that the total number of the group could reach fifty people. First detained three people who they suspected of intending to take pictures within the company and with its roof and share photos in the Internet. In the morning on September 8 and on perimeter of the enterprise the others were detained. All of them were caught by the security service and protection of "Roscosmos" and handed over to the police.
SIC RCP is the head test center of Roscosmos for bench testing of liquid rocket engines, propulsion systems on various fuel components, testing of spacecraft in a thermal chamber in space simulation conditions, research of launch vehicle and launch facilities launch problems. The company is located in Sergiev Posad district of Moscow region.
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This is national security issue
Not big enough for Black Dolphin supermax but throwing them in something like East Vladimir maximum security should be no brainer
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I demand that these spies be dissected and their organs harvested while conscious without anesthesia and their families and children get slaughtered in the most brutal way possible.
Roscosmos says several intruders caught on enterprise’s premises were foreigners
KHIMKI /Moscow Region/, September 9. /TASS/. Some of the intruders who were detained last weekend while trying to sneak into the territory of the Research and Testing Center of the Rocket and Space Industry (an affiliate of Roscosmos) are foreigners, Roscosmos chief Dmitry Rogozin told the media on Monday.
"It is up to the police to find out who they are. If they carried something else apart from the photo cameras… Contact the police. They found quite a few items of interest. I believe that not only the police will pay attention to them. The political affiliation and citizenship of some of those guys are of interest, too," Rogozin said.
As follows from what he said the intruders were detained not inside the security perimeter surrounding the research center, but on a plot of land where a hangar for the Soviet space shuttle Buran was created in the past.
"We do not use this territory at the moment. There are leaseholders. Anyway, it’s a rather large external perimeter of our enterprise," Rogozin said.
"First, a small group was detained. Then it turned out that their friends would soon show up. The ‘friends’ were apprehended, too, and turned over to the police. It is important that our security system worked well," Rogozin said.
He promised rewards for those who effectively protected the company’s security perimeter.
"My advice to one and all is to avoid trying to get through Roscosmos security cordons. We do not care whether they are bloggers, dancers or terrorists. It makes no difference. The attitude will be the same," Rogozin warned.
Detention at Roscosmos
Earlier, Roscosmos said that the security service of the Research and Testing Center of the Rocket and Space Industry last Sunday detained a group of 14 intruders for trying to get onto the center’s premises. All were taken to the police.
On September 7, the security service detained and turned over to the police three persons for illegally taking pictures. The corporation’s press-service said "the intruders tried to make photographs on the roof and inside a tight security facility with the aim of uploading the images to the Internet."
It turned out that a group of up to 50 had plotted to enter the Research and Testing Center of the Rocket and Space Industry last Saturday night in order to commit acts of vandalism. The incident was reported to the law enforcers and Roscosmos management.
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Sounds like a rather large group to be vandals... my suspicion would be bloggers wanting to take embarrasing video or photos inside supposedly secure areas to embarrass officials... like a Mattias Rust thing.
But then they might also have wanted large numbers to do more damage or to steal lots of property... maybe they were after souvenirs or looking for technology to pinch... or they might have been vandals and just want to break some of the new expensive stuff the government is spending on that they are not spending on them... who knows.
America states water boarding and also keeping Russian women in solitary confinement for 6 months is not torture... so I am sure one will spill the beans... eventually.
You want the Kashoggi treatment... yeah, why not.
Hahahaha... so somewhere near the perimeter of that place there are lots and lots of vehicles parked up... if I was in charge of security I would have people check to find these parked cars to see if they are empty or have drivers waiting with engines running.
I suspect they were going to spend a big of time taking photos and breaking things and stealing stuff so I rather suspect those vehicles would be sitting unattended... if they include foreigners there could be rental cars... so they should have location systems... would seize them all and search them thoroughly... anything privately owned could be sold off to offset the costs of this security operation.
But then they might also have wanted large numbers to do more damage or to steal lots of property... maybe they were after souvenirs or looking for technology to pinch... or they might have been vandals and just want to break some of the new expensive stuff the government is spending on that they are not spending on them... who knows.
America states water boarding and also keeping Russian women in solitary confinement for 6 months is not torture... so I am sure one will spill the beans... eventually.
I demand that these spies be dissected and their organs harvested while conscious without anesthesia and their families and children get slaughtered in the most brutal way possible.
You want the Kashoggi treatment... yeah, why not.
It turned out that a group of up to 50 had plotted to enter the Research and Testing Center of the Rocket and Space Industry last Saturday night in order to commit acts of vandalism. The incident was reported to the law enforcers and Roscosmos management.
Hahahaha... so somewhere near the perimeter of that place there are lots and lots of vehicles parked up... if I was in charge of security I would have people check to find these parked cars to see if they are empty or have drivers waiting with engines running.
I suspect they were going to spend a big of time taking photos and breaking things and stealing stuff so I rather suspect those vehicles would be sitting unattended... if they include foreigners there could be rental cars... so they should have location systems... would seize them all and search them thoroughly... anything privately owned could be sold off to offset the costs of this security operation.
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The handlers of these vandals are testing Russian security. I guess now they know that their little stunts are not going to work.
Next step is for them to use armed thugs to attempt similar sabotage. I hope Russian guards of these facilities are equipped with machine guns
and will turn the vandals to mince meat. But best of all would be to track down the handlers of these vermin and off them as well.
Next step is for them to use armed thugs to attempt similar sabotage. I hope Russian guards of these facilities are equipped with machine guns
and will turn the vandals to mince meat. But best of all would be to track down the handlers of these vermin and off them as well.
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Exactly, punish the useful idiots to deter repeat performances, but it is more important to find those behind it and punish them, or at least expose them for the they are.
BTW imagine the shitstorm if foreigners tried to attack an NASA facility that makes rockets etc... the sky would be falling.
BTW imagine the shitstorm if foreigners tried to attack an NASA facility that makes rockets etc... the sky would be falling.
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Soyuz rocket Carried astronaut Hazzaa Ali Almansoori the first United Arab Emirates, (UAE/ Emirati) to the International Space Station
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Nice video.
Interesting little rituals before the launch.
I also notice they don't bother with that stupid 10 second countdown like the US does all the time...
Interesting little rituals before the launch.
I also notice they don't bother with that stupid 10 second countdown like the US does all the time...
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