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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:45 am

    thegopnik wrote:There are some confusing sources out there some say its weight is 20 tons, flies, 1000km/h has 5000km range, 2 ton payload and other sources say above 1,400km/s speeds, 25 tons, 6000km range and 6 ton payload.

    The latter holds more credibility, as it was stated by VVP to another head of state (Recep Tayyip Erdogan) and could be a potential future buyer. But even if the former was more true, the second stage engine for the Su-57 could be fitted on it to significantly increase performance.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:21 pm



    Of course they will build larger ships don't be an idiot.

    They are already laying down 15K ton landing ships, and have decided on a heavy Gorshkov design at 7K tons...

    They are upgrading their two remaining Kirov class ships... and returning their Kuznetsov carrier to service when its upgrade is done... is that for nothing... are they going to use them as river patrol boats?


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    Post  Viktor on Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:02 pm

    [quote="thegopnik"]There are some confusing sources out there some say its weight is 20 tons, flies, 1000km/h has 5000km range, 2 ton payload and other sources say above 1,400km/s speeds, 25 tons, 6000km range and 6 ton payload.

    I suspect.

    1400km/h - max speed
    1000km/h - cruising speed

    Still payload, altitude ceiling, range in different flight modes is unknown.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:55 am


    Russian shock drones will receive 9-A-7759 Thunder planning bombs


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    The Russian drone drone “Okhotnik” and “Altius” will be armed with high-precision gliding bombs 9-A-7759 “Thunder”. According to Izvestia, citing a source in the military-industrial complex, a fundamental decision on this has already been taken.

    According to the publication, the planning bomb 9-A-7759 "Thunder" has already been integrated into the weapons system of the heavy attack drone S-70 "Hunter". Tests for the discharge of mass-scale munitions of ammunition from the drone have already been carried out and are considered successful. In the case of Altius, the integration of planning bombs with the weapon system is not yet complete. In 2018, R&D was conducted to assess the feasibility of using ammunition from a drone, but they were not completed due to a temporary suspension of work on the drone project and the transfer of its development.

    It is reported that the Altius medium drone is capable of carrying two gliding munitions 9-A-7759, and the heavy S-70 Hunter up to four in the internal compartments on the external sling.

    The planning bomb 9-A-7759 Thunder was developed by Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation in three versions. The weight of the bomb in two versions is about 600 kg, in the third - around 490 kg. The hull length is 4192 cm, the diameter is 310 cm.

    Option 9-A-7759, in addition to folding wings, is equipped with a small jet engine. The flight range is 120 km, the mass of military equipment is 315 kg, the power of a high-explosive fragmentation warhead is 2 OFAB 250.

    Option 9-A1-7759 - the main engine is replaced with an additional high-explosive fragmentation charge. The flight range is 65 km, the mass of the warhead reaches 480 kg, the power is 1.5 OFAB 500U.

    Option 9-A2-7759. It has a high-explosive fragmentation warhead replaced by a thermobaric. The flight range is 65 km, the mass of the warhead is 370 kg, and the power is 2 KAB 500 OD.

    Ammunition is inflicted using the onboard inertial navigation system and signals from the GLONASS and NAVSTAR satellites. Deviation from the target at the maximum range is no more than 10 meters.


    https://topwar.ru/168386-rossijskie-udarnye-bespilotniki-poluchat-planirujuschie-bomby-9-a-7759-grom.html
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    Post  thegopnik on Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:45 pm

    This is probably the best news piece I have ever heard which might even top the announcements of the su-57 carrying an an internal hypersonic missile for these following two reasons.

    1. I was a little nervous as to why the Russians did not have something similiar to the gbu-53 with a 120km range or the spear 3 with either a 130 or 140km. Than they finally presen a 120km weapon but better yet weight of the thing is like 3 times the amount of the US or British glide bomb suggesting a bigger payload while firing 4 of those with a stealth profile.

    2. There have been other heavy stealth drones but none that have fired a weapon such as the phantom ray drone, x-47b, bae taranis or the neuron.

    Thanks for the excellent news
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    Post  Isos on Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:53 pm

    This weapon was developed from kh-38. It was presented long time ago, well not that long but few years ago for the mig29M/35. It is not a new weapon.

    The Okhotnik should be able to carry new weapons developed for su-57 including the new hypersonic missile or the kh-59mk2 with 500+km range. It has similar weapon bay.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:13 am

    Well to be fair the Kh-38 is a new weapon too that has not actually be deployed yet operationally AFAIK.

    The Kh-38 is supposed to replace the Kh-25 and Kh-29 families of weapons.

    This new variation of the Kh-38 are effectively gliding bomb versions of the same weapon... with options for half payload with engine and glide operations or double payload and just glide to target performance which I would think would be a good thing.

    The Kh-38 comes with a wide range of seeker and guidance options just as the Kh-25 and Kh-29 weapons it will replace did, so it makes sense that this new weapon will also be able to be fitted with a fairly wide range of seeker/guidance systems too which should make it rather flexible and reduce costs
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    Post  Austin on Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:35 am

    Russian Embassy in Delhi has just put out this interesting docu comparing Russian mil hardware with US- EU-Chinese competitors.

    Hardware includes the #Su-57, #Okhotnik, #T-90M, #S-400, #IL-76. Ironically, many- HQ-9

    https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan/status/1229350428258648071

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    Post  dino00 Yesterday at 10:09 pm

    The cost of heavy shock drones S-70 "Hunter" will be about 1 billion rubles. According to experts, after the start of mass production, the price can be reduced by 40–50% compared with prototypes.

    The most expensive component of the Hunter was a glider - it accounts for 45% of the total cost, which is almost 600 million rubles. Another 240 million rubles is the cost of a jet engine.

    https://iz.ru/1019435/2020-06-03/nazvana-stoimost-tiazhelykh-udarnykh-bespilotnikov-s-70-okhotnik

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    Post  dino00 Yesterday at 11:10 pm

    dino00 wrote:The cost of heavy shock drones S-70 "Hunter" will be about 1 billion rubles. According to experts, after the start of mass production, the price can be reduced by 40–50% compared with prototypes.

    The most expensive component of the Hunter was a glider - it accounts for 45% of the total cost, which is almost 600 million rubles. Another 240 million rubles is the cost of a jet engine.

    https://iz.ru/1019435/2020-06-03/nazvana-stoimost-tiazhelykh-udarnykh-bespilotnikov-s-70-okhotnik

    Less than 15 million dollars thumbsup

    It is planned that the cost of S-70 Okhotnik heavy attack drones will amount to about 1 billion rubles per vehicle, sources in the military-industrial complex told Izvestia. Now prototypes are more expensive, but with mass production they will become cheaper. This will allow you to order a large batch of drones in case of successful completion of the tests.

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    https://iz.ru/1019351/anton-lavrov-bogdan-stepovoi/okhotnik-na-milliard-stala-izvestna-tcena-samogo-moshchnogo-drona-rossii
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    Post  eridan Today at 1:12 pm

    Those costs, eventually 10 million USD per aircraft, suggest to me a rather sparsely equipped aircraft. With little in ways of capable sensors. Possibly even the stealth aspect not being focused on as much as one could focus, using state of the art expensive materials.

    Which in turn might mean the goal may be more to have a larger fleet of semi-expendable drones for attacking fixed, known targets, basically a bomb truck - rather than a more survivable drone with possible autonomous features, used for a wider range of missions.

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    Post  Isos Today at 1:30 pm

    Its shapes already makes it stealthy. No need for super absorbant materials.

    It will also be controled by su57 and prbably other jets so no need to have lot of electronics that makes it totally autonomous.
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    Post  dino00 Today at 1:49 pm

    eridan wrote:Those costs, eventually 10 million USD per aircraft, suggest to me a rather sparsely equipped aircraft. With little in ways of capable sensors. Possibly even the stealth aspect not being focused on as much as one could focus, using state of the art expensive materials.

    Which in turn might mean the goal may be more to have a larger fleet of semi-expendable drones for attacking fixed, known targets, basically a bomb truck - rather than a more survivable drone with possible autonomous features, used for a wider range of missions.


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