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    Post  George1 on Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:53 pm

    Final trials of ExoMars mission to begin in March 2020

    The ExoMars-2020 mission’s spacecraft is designed to deliver the Russian landing platform to Mars for placing the European rover onto the Red Planet’s surface

    https://tass.com/science/1075854
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    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:49 pm

    Russia’s sample mission to Moon scheduled for 2026-2027


    Second part of Russia’s lunar program, which envisages manned missions, is also being fulfilled

    MOSCOW, October 8. /TASS/. Russia’s Luna-28 mission to deliver samples of the Moon soil to the Earth is tentatively scheduled for launch in 2026-2027, the director of the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS), Lev Zeleny, told TASS.

    "The Luna-28 and Luna-29 spacecraft are included into the next federal space program, these two projects are expected to be held before the 2029-2030. Luna-28 will bring lunar soil, Luna-29 will deliver a rover with various degrees of maneuverability and abilities to research geological samples on site," Zeleny said. "The launch of the Luna-28 mission is planned in 2026-2027."

    He did not say when the Luna-29 mission may take place, because the work on rovers has only begun.

    "We plan to cooperate on that with the Germany-based institute of robotics, negotiations are now under way. These rovers are expected to operate in two modes - control from the Earth and automated mode," the scientist said.

    The current federal space program for 2016-2025 lists three lunar missions - two landings and one orbital flight. The first of them, Luna-25, is to be launched in 2021.

    "Regretfully, for various financial and organizational reasons, the upcoming missions - Luna-26 and Luna-27, are being postponed to a later date, closer to the end of the current schedule. That said, the launch of Luna-26 is due in 2023-2024, and of Luna-27 - in 2024-2025, although we are still trying to reschedule Luna-27 for 2023-2024. Those missions were postponed, because Luna-25 was rescheduled from 2019 to 2021," Zeleny said.

    He said the second part of Russia’s lunar program, which envisages manned missions, is also being fulfilled.

    "But this is not our zone of responsibility, and I’m not authorized to speak about the timeframe," the Russian scientist added.

    According to him, Russia’s program of Moon exploration is currently being agreed by relevant ministries and agencies.

    https://tass.com/science/1081926
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    Post  George1 on Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:31 pm

    Roscosmos sets task of drafting Venus exploration program


    KHIMKI, January 31. /TASS/. Roscosmos has set a task of drafting a Venus exploration program similar in scale to Russia’s lunar program. The new program will incorporate the project Venera-D, the leading designer of the Lavochkin Research and Industrial Association, Dmitry Khmel said.

    "Roscosmos has set a task of shaping such a program. It will incorporate Venera-D. The Russian Academy of Sciences’ Space Research Institute supports this idea. We are working on drafts for taking further steps to explore Venus," Khmel said.

    https://tass.com/science/1115161
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    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:09 pm

    Russia completes firing tests of propulsion unit for ExoMars lander

    ExoMars is a joint program of the European Space Agency and Russia’s Roscosmos federal space agency to study Mars set for July-August 2020

    MOSCOW, March 3. /TASS/. The propulsion unit of the ExoMars lander module has passed firing tests, the Lavochkin Research and Production Association said in a statement on Tuesday.

    "As part of implementing the ExoMars international project, the firing tests of the propulsion unit of the ExoMars spacecraft’s lander were completed on February 27, 2020," the statement runs.

    According to the preliminary analysis, the assignments were fulfilled with positive results, the Lavochkin press office reported.

    ExoMars is a joint program of the European Space Agency and Russia’s Roscosmos federal space agency to study Mars. The mission will be launched in July-August 2020 by a Proton-M carrier rocket with a Briz-M booster from the Baikonur Cosmodrome. The project aims to study the Martian surface, its atmosphere and climate.

    https://tass.com/science/1126123
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:33 pm

    Why are they cooperating with the euros, the euros will insist on the use of european made components designed by some random housewife or zoo animal because the liberals cannot alow the employment of men and this will result in rockets exploding left right and centre.

    Russian cosmonauts could die due to the involvement of inferior minds in thier space program.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:19 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:Why are they cooperating with the euros, the euros will insist on the use of european made components designed by some random housewife or zoo animal because the liberals cannot alow the employment of men and this will result in rockets exploding left right and centre.

    Russian cosmonauts could die due to the involvement of inferior minds in thier space program.

    There is no human space flight involved. And Russia will not depend on any EU-tard components. This is just a joint science mission.
    In other words, some diplomatic window dressing. Russia does not base its space sector on such activity.

    But there is too much of such diplomacy. Russia has loose plans to restart Venus exploration. They should make this a national
    priority. It involves developing high temperature electronics technology using silicon nitride and similar. So the lander can operate
    for 24 hours before failing from being in a 700 K atmosphere. This sort of unique technology would be useful for Russian
    military capability.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:18 am

    He is a retard.

    Euros don't launch what Russia does In a year. And half the components are from Russia in their exomars program. The companies who been making space based components longer than the euros ever did still make them today.
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:46 am

    ExoMars 2020 will result in Russia having a workable lander design for Mars surface science missions (even if they have to replace some of the Eurotrash components with domestic equivalents). Add on a cruise stage and they have all they need for their own Mars planetary science campaign.

    Sounds like a good result to me.
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    Post  kvs on Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:27 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:ExoMars 2020 will result in Russia having a workable lander design for Mars surface science missions (even if they have to replace some of the Eurotrash components with domestic equivalents). Add on a cruise stage and they have all they need for their own Mars planetary science campaign.

    Sounds like a good result to me.

    Russia does not need such science missions to develop its technology. And this science mission is not any sort of charity for Russia.
    It is an actual science mission and the EU is leveraging Russian launch capability that it does not have. Nobody forced the EU
    to sign an agreement with Russia. It was free to partner up with the yanquis. But the yanquis are in a crisis and their launch costs
    are certifiably insane. For example, to launch a mission to Mars costs over $340 million US. And I am talking about missions from over
    10 years ago. Russia can send the same payload to Mars on the same trajectory for $60 million. Most of the US cost is gouged by NASA
    for "flight control" services.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:11 am


    And right on cue, at least this time they discovered that some moron has been dicking with hammers BEFORE whole thing went up in flames lol1

    If only there were some advanced technology capable of recoding and storing images from stationary position... Razz



    Russia Finds Defects in Mars, Telecom Rockets – Vedomosti

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/03/11/russia-finds-defects-in-mars-telecom-rockets-vedomosti-a69583
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2020/03/10/824854-dvuh-raketah-nositelyah?utm_campaign=vedomosti_public&utm_content=824854-dvuh-raketah-nositelyah&utm_medium=social&utm_source=telegram_ved


    Russia has detected defective parts in its Proton-M rockets that were set to launch Europe’s first rover on Mars and two communications satellites, the Vedomosti business daily reported Wednesday.

    The launch of Russia’s Express 80 and Express 103 satellites on one Proton-M rocket has now been rescheduled for late May instead of March due to the defective parts, the Khrunichev Space Center which builds the rockets announced Tuesday. Another Proton-M is still reportedly due to carry the Russian-European ExoMars-2020 rover to Mars in July.

    Both Proton-Ms were revealed to contain defective bolts which made the rockets less durable, Vedomosti cited an unnamed source at Khrunichev as saying.

    The latest revelation follows a series of Proton launch failures over the past decade and the discovery of 71 defective Proton rocket engines in 2016. The blunders threw the reliability of the Russian space industry into question.

    Vedomosti’s source said that the Roscosmos space agency’s 450-million-ruble ($7.2 million) quality control inspection program for 2019-22 has helped avoid potential tragedies with the launches of flawed rockets.

    The ExoMars mission is still expected to launch this July because the defective parts should be replaced within 45 days, according to Vedomosti.

    Khrunichev announced Tuesday that it formed a special commission to find and punish those responsible for the flaw.

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:37 am

    Sucks that the SpaceNews article couldn't resist including a propaganda claim...

    "The unprecedented size and complexity of the parachute system is related to the lander provided by Roscosmos.  A more powerful retropropulsive system on the lander would have allowed the mission to require only one main chute, according to Spoto."

    That is total BULLSHIT.  I doubt that the lander and rover combo is heavier than the US Curiosity rover and its "sky-crane" delivery system, so if NASA could get their chutes designed correctly, why can't the Euros?   Regarding the nonsense about more powerful engines, the parachutes only operate in the unpowered portion of the re-entry where speed needs to be dissipated before the descent engines can start.  The engines only fire once the parachutes have done their job - at which point the chutes needs to be jettisoned otherwise they would foul the vehicle.

    How typical.  Conceal the failings of the Eurotrash and somehow connive a way to Blame Russia....

    What a dirty pack of dishonest censored s.

    Speaking of obvious solutions here is another one that would have kept Roskosmos from making idiots of themselves yet again: use better thrusters

    Yup.  The technically illiterate always swallow the BS they are fed.... Well, maybe I'm being unfair to PD, but that comment is simply nonsense.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:04 am

    Enough of the flame baiting shit... next person on this threat to call someone else a troll or tease about human rights and a countries path toward true western enlightenment gets a break of a couple of days to think about what a real tough guy they are... lets get back to the title of the thread which is pretty clear and I am going to remove all this BS about cameras and sabotage from this thread to the talking bollocks thread.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:36 am

    And right on cue, at least this time they discovered that some moron has been dicking with hammers BEFORE whole thing went up in flames lol1

    If only there were some advanced technology capable of recoding and storing images from stationary position...

    Sounds like they detected a problem with the current procedures and systems...
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    Post  Hole on Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:56 am

    I wonder what Musk is doing to prevent taxpayer money to go up in flames. Looking at his record I would say...nothing. Very Happy
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:45 am

    Probably hiding the tin of petrol under his coat....
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    Post  kvs on Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:06 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    And right on cue, at least this time they discovered that some moron has been dicking with hammers BEFORE whole thing went up in flames lol1

    If only there were some advanced technology capable of recoding and storing images from stationary position...

    Sounds like they detected a problem with the current procedures and systems...

    You can defend PD as a non-troll all you want but he has been posting lies in this thread on a consistent basis. Exo-Mars has been
    delayed for 2 years for reasons that have nothing to do with Russia.

    https://spacenews.com/exomars-rover-mission-delayed-to-late-2022/

    I suppose, according to PD, Russia's space program must be devastated with the loss of access to precious NATzO money thanks to
    this delay.

    The whole camera discussion should go to the bollox thread since it is one big troll by PD.

    Anyone who pooh-pooh's the Russian space program as a nothing is by definition a troll. If it was so easy, then Serbia could
    do a better job. Considering that the ESA is behind Russia in terms of both launches, launchers and satellite network, all EU
    forum members who spit on Roscosmos are certifiable trolls. Interesting how there are no members from China trash talking
    about Roscosmos and ESA even though China is a ahead of the ESA as well.

    The only lead that ESA has is its bloated budget:

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/outer-space/news/european-space-agency-gets-astronomical-budget/

    around 14.4 billion euro per year. What are they doing with this money? Looks like pure corruption rot. And no, they are not
    "feeding" Roscosmos with it. Roscosmos is giving these clowns launch capacity both in the main ESA space port in French Guyana
    and for its space exploration missions such as Exo-Mars.






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    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:45 am

    He is frustrated... and seems to be trying to be realistic... when everyone looks on the bright side then everything is OK and nothing needs to be changed or fixed... and realistically everything changes... new materials, new designs, new ways of doing things to make it simpler and easier and fool proof.


    My experience in the workforce tells me there are aholes and idiots everywhere, and sometimes the company does things because that is the way they have always done them and they never really thought long and hard as to why.

    You can have dozens of different door handle designs on a door, and if the door opens in and out then something big and easy to grab makes sense, but if the door can only open by pushing it a great big bar handle that is easy for everyone to use will result in a lot of people trying to pull the door open... on finding it wont pull open they will normally look more carefully at the door for a push sign or just try to push instead. The large bar handle might be a requirement that enables people using crutches to walk to get a solid grip on the door for balance while they open it because they can't put weight on both crutches and the door at the same time... and that is fine, but that means the door needs a push sign to make it clear how to use it. From a design perspective the ideal solution is a push plate... a flat piece of metal where you push the door to open it... it is not ambiguous as there is no way to pull the door open and indeed when carrying stuff with both hands full you can immediately see the door opens with a push so you can turn around and use your ass to push open the door to go through... flat plates are simple and relatively cheap, for the users there is no need for a sign to say push because it is obvious and there is no way you could mistakenly try to misuse the control to pull open the door as that would be difficult without a powerful magnet. Push plates are easy to keep clean... just wipe them down with some anti septic liquid or spray...

    What I am trying to say is that there is good design simple and cheap and easy and there is OK design that needs signs so everyone knows how to operate... the ideal is good simple design but that is not always possible... and then there are those that are wilfully trying to break things anyway...

    The problem is that at the decision level of a company the guy that makes the decisions might be an idiot or an ahole or both, or maybe he or she is neither but never really thought about it because that is the way they always did it....

    BTW just because I don't agree with someone about something does not mean I don't like them. I am not such an ego maniac to think I am always right and therefore everyone who has a different opinion is not just wrong but is being wrong on purpose to oppose me... you know... the way America thinks Russia wont agree with them regarding china and iran and cuba because they have something against america... Russia simply does not agree with America when America is wrong, but America thinks a friend is someone who will back you up even when you are wrong and doing bad things, but in actual fact a real friend would take you aside and tell you you are wrong and you need to think about what you are doing and why you are doing it.

    Most of the worst things America does is not for the good of 350 million Americans... the worst things they do benefits the 1% of Americans that make money from war or drugs or other shit that is clearly bad... and it is going to bite the US in the ass and has already been doing so over the last few decades where people have seen the propaganda against communism change to just pro US propaganda that is against rivals and fair competition...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:27 am

    kvs wrote:If it was so easy, then Serbia could do a better job.

    We are still waiting for Canada to show us how it's done that is all




    kvs wrote:should go to the bollox thread since it is one big troll by PD.
    GarryB wrote:... next person on this threat to call someone else a troll or tease about human rights and a countries path toward true western enlightenment gets a break of a couple of days to think about what a real tough guy they are...


    Also if you got something to say to PD polite thing to do would be to address PD directly



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