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    Post  Vann7 on Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:06 pm

    GarryB wrote:No big deal... if someone throws fire bombs at Russian forces then Russian forces will just shoot them.



    You never get it right on anything..  No

    Anyone that can see beyond their noses will understand that this is serious ,and is just the start of provocations
    and their Americans sponsors will only increase their attacks.. will not be surprising if there are US Special forces
    or Israel mossad behind all this attacks.. that threatens the cease of fire and the split of relation of Kurds with Russia forever.

    and they did it..


    Three Russian military policemen injured by roadside bomb blast in northern Syria – Defense Ministry


    https://www.rt.com/russia/official-word/474836-russian-military-policemen-injured-syria/


    A road side bomb is nothing ? Rolling Eyes
    to Shoot at the kurds , allowing the CIA to damage relations between Russia and Kurds ?
    which is their goal.. since most kurds support Russia actions ,but only a minority not..

    3 Russian serviceman injured..  can't hear you saying .. ahh thats nothing , but it is if you
    have any brain , the attacks on Russian military patrol means..

    1) Their sponsors are organizing provocations against Russia..
    2) Stone trowing is just the first step.. they will roadside bombs next
    3)the lethality of the attacks and their bombs will only increase is only a matter of time..

    No go an said that this is nothing..  No  
    But you are wrong , Journalist Jews ,that reports for the Israel newspapers are by coincidence
    in the right moment when the attacks happen..

    SO if Russia do nothing , or take major extra security , the life of Russian soldiers will be at risk..
    by people with experience building bombs.. hiding behind the kurds.. This is a major provocation
    and will not be the last one and it will only get worse if not careful..
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:43 am

    You never get it right on anything..

    A fire bomb is a potentially lethal thing... that justifies lethal responses.

    I am not saying shoot them all... just the ones with petrol bombs.

    that threatens the cease of fire and the split of relation of Kurds with Russia forever.

    What relations? The Kurds are anti Assad and therefore anti Russia... if they want a seat at the table then they need to sort their own shit out and deal with these bomb builders themselves... otherwise Russia and Turkey and Syria can all have them on their terrorist lists and shoot the bastards on sight if they are armed.

    A road side bomb is nothing ?

    I suggested shooting the guys with the petrol bombs and I would suggest shooting the IED makers too.... you are the one wanting to play footsie with these terrorists and treat them with kid gloves in the hope that some day they can talk.

    [to Shoot at the kurds , allowing the CIA to damage relations between Russia and Kurds ?
    which is their goal.. since most kurds support Russia actions ,but only a minority not..

    By shooting the guys with the petrol bombs and IEDs you are killing the minority... if the rest of the population don't understand this then they are part of the problem too.

    3 Russian serviceman injured.. can't hear you saying .. ahh thats nothing , but it is if you
    have any brain , the attacks on Russian military patrol means..

    1) Their sponsors are organizing provocations against Russia..
    2) Stone trowing is just the first step.. they will roadside bombs next
    3)the lethality of the attacks and their bombs will only increase is only a matter of time..

    Bribing people to throw petrol bombs at the Russians doesn't work when they know they will get shot and be too dead to spend the bribe money.

    Stopping it at petrol bombs is legitimate.... for fucks sake the Israelis shoot people for throwing stones at armoured vehicles designed to stop small arms fire...

    But you are wrong , Journalist Jews ,that reports for the Israel newspapers are by coincidence
    in the right moment when the attacks happen..

    When they are shooting the bomb throwing Kurds they should also look at the spectators for people with cameras and radios and shoot them too...

    They have excellent Elint capability... they should use it to deal with the sponsors and handlers and reporters that happened to be in exactly the right place and the right time...

    SO if Russia do nothing , or take major extra security , the life of Russian soldiers will be at risk..
    by people with experience building bombs.. hiding behind the kurds.. This is a major provocation
    and will not be the last one and it will only get worse if not careful..

    You are the one suggesting they ignore it, which is stupid because it will only make the bolder and more creative and likely more successful.

    If the Kurds think attacking Russian forces... police or otherwise is a death sentence... these are not Sunni nutters expecting 72 virgins when they die... they are much more practical and sensible... their main problem is they are also expendable too... why should Russia care about Kurds... the problem for the Kurds was created by the British and French not looking at the ethnic bases in the region... they created countries based on known oil deposits alone.

    If the Kurds have any brains they will limit themselves to fighting Turkey and not Russia because even with US support they can't beat either let alone both.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:12 am

    Three Russian soldiers are slightly injured in a bombing in Syria - Russian DM
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    Post  par far on Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:52 pm

    Russia should have let the Turks deal with Kurds, all these patrols near the Turkish border is not worth it.




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    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:40 pm

    So some Russian MP's get hurt. It's the risk they take. Thankfully they werent killed.

    That said, Russia has a rather strict objective - to keep Syria a whole country. Commenters online are retarded as seen by YouTube discussion - they call Russian a paper tiger yet it was Russia who drove out Americans from various areas without firing a single shot. They were able to also drive out most terrorists from around Damascus.

    None of this is rocket science. But it sure seems like it is to so many here and on YouTube.
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    Post  Isos on Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:57 pm

    Kurds didn't learn the lesson. If the one protecting them leaves they are dead meat. It happened with US and EU and it may happen with Russia.

    If turks start patroling with their terrorist proxies instead with russian they will feel it.

    Russia can then escort turks to their borders pretty easily.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:54 pm

    Damascus fell into the trap of Tehran
    http://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2019-11-29/4_1072_damask.html?print=Y

    In a way, Israel is acting as a de-facto Russian proxy against Iran in Syria.
    Interesting times lie ahead indeed!
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    Post  Vann7 on Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:43 am

    Take a look at this..

    2 pilots killed as Russian military helicopter crashes in night training mission

    https://www.rt.com/newsline/475642-attack-helicopter-crash-russia/

    In times that Lavrov are in important meetings with Trump... SAME DAY..

    and that while Trump is trying to score points with his voting base ,by trying to improve
    relations with Russia.   while at same time US Senate is doing something never seen before
    moving in to a position of no return... of complete break of relations..


    US Senate advances bill giving State Department right to call Russia ‘sponsor of terrorism
    https://www.rt.com/usa/475637-us-senate-russia-sponsor-terrorism/

    So basically the same day Russia diplomats was invited by Trump to washington DC ,seeking to improve relations
    and seeking an arms treaty and an end to the Conflict in Ukraine and Syria..  

    The US republican Senate is moving in a totally different direction... and seeking to completely
    make it impossible for any more meetings and an attempt to complete isolation of Russia from the world..
    then 2 pilots die in Russia in a "training mission" at night.. and they pick the worse time possible in bad weather
    for "training"//   Instead of waiting for better weather..  they pick the worse one and pilots die... when in real wars. Russian pilots avoid flying in bad weather..

    So something doesn't add up here.. It will not be surprising that hellicopter was shutdown , perahps a manpad
    or that it was in Syria were the "Training happened" ..  US military also have done the same..  

    So not even during Soviet Union Russia was declared a terrorist state , So if this US senate resolution is passed ,
    To implement it.. they either will have to Ignore it.. and look like idiots.. or they will have to declare Putin
    a terrorist.. and end Russia embassy  in washington DC.. Close RT..  and attempt to pressure all weak Nations in
    Latin American and Europe  to do the same and not meet with any Russian Government official..

    So this is as close as it can be to a point of no return ,if they pass the bill , is because they want to take
    relations to a state of war ..and even justify in near future attacking Russia in Syria... So how are they going to implement this? Sanctions to any nation who do business with Russia ? or they just bluffing ? This could create a
    major breakup and isolation of TRUMP too , and tie completely his hands to do any dialogue with Russia ,and
    Russia will have to raise its national security threat level to the same level of when Russia shut down American
    plane that flew in a blackbird over Russia..  this is a level of tensions of preparations for US significant increase
    of hostilities , against Russians citizens and Diplomats all around the world.  and a significant attacks on Russian base by proxy.

    So people need to pay attentions to the developments of this law... and compare it with how much it worsen
    things in Ukraine and Syria..  This is beyond cold war ,but now between Cold and HOt war.. will move if pass the bill.. They could be bluffing or they could be indeed attempting  to start a major waves of hostilities against Russia diplomats and Russian citizens all around the world.. and total censorship of RT..  and doesn't paint a good picture for Trump presidency either.. because he will resist calling Russia a terrorist.

    So whether the resolution pass or not .. the intention to take revenge on Russia by people who control
    the US military and CIA is there by the anti Trump factions.. So more attention people will need to pay to Mysterious plane crashes in Russia ,Syria , IRAQ from Both Sides and even in Ukraine a restart of the war too..

    This can only get ugly ,so pay attention , if they pass the resolution , they can't later continue having
    any relation with Russia. This will lead to maritime Piracy attacks and arrest of Civilians Russians boats all around the world.. accusing them of transporting "weapons for terrorist". They could also use this new law ,they intent to pass, to blackmail Trump and send a message to Trump , that his presidency and future continuation a second term ,will depend if he support Republicans new Russia terrorist bill or not.
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    Post  Isos on Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:41 pm

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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:31 pm

    What's the latest on the RuAF moving detachments onto airfields further east, like those recently liberated?
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    Post  Isos on Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:49 pm

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/status/1210109589158580224

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    Screenshots of Russian servicemen occupying a base in Tal Samin, Syria, 25km north of Raqqa, that was previously used by US forces. 130/
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    Post  Isos on Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:51 pm

    JohninMK wrote:What's the latest on the RuAF moving detachments onto airfields further east, like those recently liberated?

    They moved some btr and a pantsir last time a saw news about that. It was a month or two ago.
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    Post  Isos on Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:17 pm


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    SOHR: Russian and US soldiers got into a fist fight with each other in Tell Tamer, Hasakah Governorate.

    US soldiers entered Tell Tamer, but the residents were having none of it, calling the Americans traitors and pleaded to the Russians to remove the Americans from Tell Tamer


    https://m.jpost.com/Middle-East/US-Russian-troops-brawl-in-northeast-Syria-report-612168

    Russian forces were present in the area at the same time as US troops and when the two parties met it devolved into a fist fight, "due to their presence in the same area," according to SOHR.
    American and Russian troops brawled in Tell Tamer in northeast Syria on Wednesday, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

    Russian forces were present in the area at the same time as US troops and when the two parties met it devolved into a fist fight, "due to their presence in the same area," according to SOHR.

    The American troops were in the area with an interpreter to get to know the opinions of local residents. According to SOHR, all the people described the US forces as traitors. lol1 lol1 lol1

    Tell Tamer was one of the cities that US troops withdrew from after a decision by President Donald Trump. Syrian troops entered the town after the Syrian government reached an agreement with the Kurdish-led forces controlling the region to deploy into the area to counter an attack by Turkey. Residents of the Christian community in Tell Tamer are threatened by Turkish-backed Syrian militias who caused many Christians to flee towns near the Turkish border after the US withdrawal
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:10 am

    yeah, the US really pooched the dog on that. Lol.
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    Post  nomadski on Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:55 am

    I heard about Syria rocket attack against yank held oil in Eastern Syria. Rockets. Qudos to those who carried out this attack. Now to repeat this action, every now and again. To show they can not rob oil. No oil for independent Kurdistan. This is the real punch. And if Saudi mercenary launch UAV against Syria oil. Then Iran and Russia help Syria with oil and gas. No shortage of oil. Iran oil come from Russia ship. No shortage of oil here. This is better than yank stealing oil. As they retaliate against Yanks. The Syrians retaliate against further Usrael attack. A few SRBM go a long way. The real punch....
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    Post  Isos on Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:59 pm

    https://geopolitics.news/middle-east/chunese-jyl-1-radars-russian-pantsir-s-air-defense-systems-deployed-at-syrias-m4-highway/


    Chinese made early warning radar deployed by SAA along with russian pantsir. Not the besr integrated air defence out there but covers a good area.
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    Post  Regular on Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:51 pm

    Isos wrote:
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    SOHR: Russian and US soldiers got into a fist fight with each other in Tell Tamer, Hasakah Governorate.


    Russian forces were present in the area at the same time as US troops and when the two parties met it devolved into a fist fight, "due to their presence in the same area,"




    ...according to SOHR... Same people who report Russians killing babies and drinking their blood???

    Bullshit.

    Both Russians and US troops stationed there are too professional for this nonsense.

    Russian and US forces have met in Kurdish areas before, there was no animosity.

    All fights would turn into shootout rather than fist fight especially in such a hostile environment like Syria.

    Russian MOD officially said it was BS and Americans deny this happened.

    Most likely it was former US allies throwing rocks at US troops as seen in many videos. Maybe there was a scuffle, but I wouldn't believe anything from SOHR.

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    Post  Isos on Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:04 pm

    More AD systems ?

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:42 pm

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    Post  Isos on Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:37 pm

    The difference in size btw tigr and btr 82 with this MRAP is big. MRAP are an easy target for atgm yeams contrary to btr82.


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    Post  Hole on Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:00 pm

    The 30mm guns of the BTR-82A´s would do the job. At least at close range. Like in this pic.
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    Post  JohninMK on Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:17 pm

    Isos wrote:The difference in size btw tigr and btr 82 with this MRAP is big. MRAP are an easy target for atgm yeams contrary to btr82.

    That photo allows so many comparisons like:

    - the kind of opposition both parties expected/had experienced at specification time

    - different logistics needs, especially fuel

    - why the Russian military spend is so much lower than the US

    - Russians footprint and camo'd for defending Russia, US footprint and camo for imposing itself on desert type countries.

    Also interesting differences in the various convoys of both sides trundling around N Syria. Lots of closed top trucks with the Russians, non with US. Probably means Russians feel safe moving troops and supplies around whilst the US has to use helicopters.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:34 am

    T-72B3, T-90A, Smerch on the way to Idlib battle.

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    Post  Mindstorm on Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:00 pm

    Isos wrote:The difference in size btw tigr and btr 82 with this MRAP is big. MRAP are an easy target for atgm yeams contrary to btr82.


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    There is a good contribution of deceiving perspective in the impression that this photo evoke.

    The US Army vehicle is a simple Oshkosh M-ATV and neither its height, overall size and even less level of armor is impressive for its category.

    You can see a very close and detailed walk-on and around of the vehicle in question in this video:



    This correspond more or less to Тайфун К-4386 with the difference that the latter is air-dropable and show diffferent level of modularity both in therms of weapons and armor  



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    Post  par far on Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:31 pm

    "U.S. FORCES BLOCK RUSSIAN PATROL IN NORTHEAST SYRIA (VIDEOS)."

    https://southfront.org/u-s-forces-block-russian-patrol-in-northeast-syria-videos/

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