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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #2

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:20 pm

    Khepesh wrote:Shoigu announces that 4 warships have launched missiles against ISIL from the Caspian Sea https://www.rt.com/news/317864-russian-warships-missiles-launch/

    I thought I would use this photo for Ukraine, but now seems good...
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    Popcorn make raccoon stronkkk!!! lol1 russia
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    Post  Khepesh Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:26 pm

    ult wrote:OMG

    For years we had to watch the Americans doing this, now finally ours. I think, but not 100%, that this is the first war action by Russian, or from Soviet Navy, since 1945. Guys on those ships must be feeling very proud.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:29 pm

    Khepesh wrote:
    ult wrote:OMG

    For years we had to watch the Americans doing this, now finally ours. I think, but not 100%, that this is the first war action by Russian, or from Soviet Navy, since 1945. Guys on those ships must be feeling very proud.

    For the caspian flotilla I think yes, for Russian Navy no, Georgians got a glimpse of it. Small but effective.


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    Post  JohninMK Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:30 pm

    medo wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    zg18 wrote:
    Militarov wrote:Buyan M corvettes are the only ships with cruise missiles in Caspitan fleet... and they use 3M54 Club. Land attack variant 3M14T should have quite significant range, by some reports even around 1500km. But each Buyan can carry only 8 of them and only 3 Club capable ships exist in Caspian fleet... Grad Sviyazhsk, Uglich and Veliki Ustyug carry them to my knowledge.

    Nyet tovarisch , two Gepard class frigates "Dagestan" and "Tatarstan" have Kalibr also

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gepard-class_frigate

    only Dagestan i think, 1 from 2
    Any ideas why from the Caspian not the Med?

    except the ships mentioned above, only Project 22350 and Project 11356 will have Kalibr missiles and these classes havent been commissioned yet. So no that could be in Med has those missiles to fire

    Theoretically could Black sea fleet launch them from their two Buyan-M ships and from Kilo submarines.
    No, they don't have the range, just plot the course.

    On your other answers, the missiles would not have to cross NATO land as Syria has a Med coast and watching the video does not explain why, George1 did that.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:32 pm

    Khepesh wrote:
    ult wrote:OMG

    For years we had to watch the Americans doing this, now finally ours. I think, but not 100%, that this is the first war action by Russian, or from Soviet Navy, since 1945. Guys on those ships must be feeling very proud.

    Seven decades and four big fleets...and in the end it is little Caspian flotilla that has taken the first scalp... love

    Life is strange indeed. thumbsup
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:35 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:
    ult wrote:OMG
    For years we had to watch the Americans doing this, now finally ours. I think, but not 100%, that this is the first war action by Russian, or from Soviet Navy, since 1945. Guys on those ships must be feeling very proud.

    For the Caspian flotilla I think yes, for Russian Navy no, Georgians got a glimpse of it. Small of effective.
    It does show how strategically important the Caspian is now in the age of very long range ship launched cruise missiles, especially as the small size of the ships makes them hard to find and destroy.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:36 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:
    ult wrote:OMG
    For years we had to watch the Americans doing this, now finally ours. I think, but not 100%, that this is the first war action by Russian, or from Soviet Navy, since 1945. Guys on those ships must be feeling very proud.

    For the Caspian flotilla I think yes, for Russian Navy no, Georgians got a glimpse of it. Small of effective.
    It does show how strategically important the Caspian is now in the age of very long range ship launched cruise missiles, especially as the small size of the ships makes them hard to find and destroy.

    Since the US decided to get shit faced over there the Caspian has become as strategic as Donbass.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:44 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:
    ult wrote:OMG
    For years we had to watch the Americans doing this, now finally ours. I think, but not 100%, that this is the first war action by Russian, or from Soviet Navy, since 1945. Guys on those ships must be feeling very proud.

    For the Caspian flotilla I think yes, for Russian Navy no, Georgians got a glimpse of it. Small of effective.
    It does show how strategically important the Caspian is now in the age of very long range ship launched cruise missiles, especially as the small size of the ships makes them hard to find and destroy.

    Since the US decided to get shit faced over there the Caspian has become as strategic as Donbass.
    The USN might have a problem showing the flag there Smile
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    Post  Neutrality Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:05 pm

    Incredible, I'm witnessing a major geopolitical shift.
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    Post  Khepesh Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:09 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Seven decades and four big fleets...and in the end it is little Caspian flotilla that has taken the first scalp...  love

    Life is strange indeed. thumbsup
    I was also thinking that. Caspian Flotilla the least likely to ever see any action, and now.....

    Still rather surprised this did not come from the ships in the Mediterranean
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    Post  Dima Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:10 pm

    Excellent stuff w.r.t to the Kaliber launch. Loved it.  thumbsup

    Hope atleast now people realise that what Russian Navy needs now are ships that are practical and cost-effective and wish the Russian MoD put effort to accelerate and increase the number of Pr.11661 and Pr.21631. 11661 must be given priority over the pr.20380/5. Russia needs ships and ships in numbers which can strike the adversary hard.

    Two 11356 with a a dozen 21631 based out of Tartus is a good strike force to keep away any NATO naval asset and, if needed, to enforce a blockade on Western bound trade from the Suez. Its all for these very strategic options/objectives (choke points) that Syria and Tartus is very important for Russia and I want to see Russia fortify its position in the region. This is the safest and cost-effective way to strike hard western powers without deploying in the Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf, for which Russian navy currently lacks assets.

    The launch would have given a chill to the Saudi's, Turks and obviously the western world barking against Russia. This launch also could be due to the recent propaganda regarding the airspace violation and 'Russian planes coming too near to the US a/c' also.... so from now on the US/NATO will need to be more careful when Russia launch missiles, lest NATO a/c collide with any of those missiles.

    More than the US/NATO a/c, US/NATO drones are a threat to Russian a/c due to the possibly of a planned collision with the Russian a/c operating in the region.
    JMHT


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    Post  medo Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:12 pm

    I wonder, who will be the first foreign customer for Buyan-M corvettes. This little ship prove to have a very long hand.
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    Post  Siempre_Leal Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:13 pm

    Beautiful launch!! Best of luck to the Caspian Flotilla in the future!
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    Post  Neutrality Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:15 pm



    Retards shooting with AKs.
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    Post  Hachimoto Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:16 pm

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    Post  Khepesh Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:17 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:

    For the caspian flotilla I think yes, for Russian Navy no, Georgians got a glimpse of it. Small but effective.
    The action at Poti that involved Lebedev?
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    Post  Dima Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:19 pm

    medo wrote:Theoretically could Black sea fleet launch them from their two Buyan-M ships and from Kilo submarines.
    Yes they can but will need to overfly Turkish airspace.

    Anyone want to have a rethink on having Amur-950 with 10 x VLS for Klub in the Black sea/Baltic fleet?? The entire load of 10 missiles will be launched in under two minutes from the sub.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:22 pm

    Wow, the Buyan-M just highly proved themselves. And having similar amount of armemant as thr much Larger Daegestan (Gepard) really making this ship shine! Medo is right, who will end up being first export customer? Bet many countries that need such small hard hitting ships will get a hard on after this engagement. GJ Russia!
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    Post  Dima Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:23 pm

    medo wrote:I wonder, who will be the first foreign customer for Buyan-M corvettes. This little ship prove to have a very long hand.
    Better to ask who should be.
    I would say Syria needs them and DPR Korea in the immediate to near future for obvious reasons.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:24 pm

    Khepesh wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:

    For the caspian flotilla I think yes, for Russian Navy no, Georgians got a glimpse of it. Small but effective.
    The action at Poti that involved Lebedev?

    That and the sinking of Georgian Ship.
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    Happy Birthday Putin!
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:36 pm

    Khepesh wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:

    Seven decades and four big fleets...and in the end it is little Caspian flotilla that has taken the first scalp...  love

    Life is strange indeed. thumbsup
    I was also thinking that. Caspian Flotilla the least likely to ever see any action, and now.....

    Still rather surprised this did not come from the ships in the Mediterranean

    This reminds me back in Ukraine shindig when auslander kept saying that we should "ignore shiny object in one hand and focus on what other hand is doing... " or something like that.

    Also:

    Both Su-34 and Buyan-M will be hot items this Christmas shopping season... thumbsup russia
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    Post  Dima Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:37 pm

    Neutrality wrote:

    Retards shooting with AKs.
    Where is it from?
    Hope its not the Latakia perimeter...if it is, the Russians needs to clear the area lest the terrorists manage to slip in few rockets and target the airbase.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:40 pm


    Rule #1: Do exactly what new sheriff in town tels you to do! Twisted Evil

    Russia Ready to Establish Contacts With Free Syrian Army – Foreign Ministry

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151007/1028165440/russia-fsa-contacts.html#ixzz3ntR584EL

    Moscow is ready to help coordinate the efforts of the armed forces of Syria and the Free Syrian Army, which currently oppose the country's government, to fight the Islamic State, Russia's Foreign Ministry said Wednesday. President Vladimir Putin has instructed the Foreign Ministry to communicate this to Russia's foreign partners.

    "In accordance with the position expressed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Russian side is ready for the Defense Ministry to help unite the efforts of the Syrian army and the Free Syrian Army in the fight against the Islamic State and other terrorist groups, including in the context of coordinating the actions of Russian aviation," ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said in a statement.

    "In addition, at the request of the Russian president, the Foreign Ministry is informing our partners in countries with contacts in the Free Syrian Army of the Russian side's readiness to establish contact with the leaders of this structure," the statement reads.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:42 pm

    Dima wrote:
    Neutrality wrote:

    Retards shooting with AKs.
    Where is it from?
    Hope its not the Latakia perimeter...if it is, the Russians needs to clear the area lest the terrorists manage to slip in few rockets and target the airbase.

    That looks like Hama.

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