GarryB wrote:This is nice... it was not that long ago I was defending Russian tanks because everyone claimed they were junk.
I remember chatting to a guy in the 1990s particularly because he claimed he fought in Desert Storm and his unit destroyed hundreds of T-90s and T-80s there... all Russian tanks are junk... after chatting to him for a bit it turns out it was his uncle that was there, but it was T-90s and T-80s that he was destroying hahaha.
Then of course the conflict in chechnia happened, which only made things much worse... when you don't fit your ERA blocks with explosive, when you are up against an enemy with the same training because they were in the same army as you, and equipped with the same equipment as you with the same knowledge of the weaknesses and strengths of the vehicles you use, then of course there are going to be problems, but even then the problems are made worse when your command want to minimise casualties by driving into enemy held cities with out preparing them with artillery and air strikes... they seemed to think they would just drive in and everyone would surrender... the second time around they did it right and did a much better job... because they did it right... and the tanks worked well that time.
Agreed , i don't understand how some people judge the hardware without taking in account the variable circumstances of the operator .
In 1973 war , Egypt used T-54,55 ,T-62 perfectly with well trained crews VS isreali's M-60,Centurion and Super Sherman and Egypt won most of the tanks engagements , most of them was from 3 KM and less