KiloGolf wrote:Isos wrote:Just look at German frigates which is shit and british destroyer which can be detected by subs hundreds km away. At least russian ships are accepted only if they are very good.
If Russia's shipbuilding benchmark is the German and Royal Navies and industries, then they're setting the bar quite low.
They should look at the US, China, Korea and Japan and take notes.
Korea and Japan are producing basically US ships with US radars and VLS according to US plans.
China started just recently to produce ships in big number for the military. I wouldn't look at them for sure. No one knows how reliable their ship are. It is really easy to build shit that doesn't work in big numbers.
US have the budget to buy tens of new big ship per year so its kinda unfair to compare russia to them. They have lot of experience thanks to that.