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    Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News #2

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:02 pm

    George1 wrote:send this ship for scrap and build 3-4 new aircraft carriers

    As Wilhelm said
    wilhelm wrote:
    At the very least, it keeps a core of fixed wing naval competency alive.

    To start these core competencies from scratch all over again once it is lost is a very long and expensive business.
    This is the primary reason Kuznetsov is kept.

    It also allows them to develop or discard features and doctrines in a potential follow up carrier.

    Even if they started building now, the entry into service of a potential new Russian carrier would not enter into service before 10 years.


    In the meanwhile, even with the use of the NITKA training center near Saki in Crimea (there is another one, in construction in Yeysk in Krasnodar Krai, but apparently the construction has stopped) you could only simulate carrier takeoff and landings but not carrier operation altogether.

    Even if only as training carrier, the Russian Navy will have to keep the Kuznetov in order to be to maintain a carrier based aviation and keep trained and current naval aviators.

    At least the transition from operation from the Kuznetsov to the new carrier should be easier than starting again with only ground based carrier simulator experience.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:14 am

    The problem is why the fires starts in the first place.

    Combination of heat, fuel, and oxygen...

    Yes it happens to everyone, but Russia seems to be most troubled by this. Agian and again and again.

    By definition it happens to everyone again and again and again... or are you saying China and America will never have a navy related fire ever again because they learned their lesson?

    More likely what the US will do is ban reporting of any fires or incidents and pretend everything is fine... because that is what nazi state do... that is how they achieve utopoia... drugs and denial.

    They have just upgraded it and fixed its propulsion system and members think it should be scrapped.

    The power of western propaganda.

    Russia does not need carriers... of course they would want that... but if Russia does not need them why do so many western countries have aircraft carriers?

    And the difference is that western carriers are rather more horribly vulnerable to being sunk than any Russian carriers because western military forces don't have the powerful anti ship systems the Russians have.

    Russia needs to expand its reach to the world and the easiest and best way to do that is via its navy. The improved merchant fleet will cover the costs and more.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:47 am

    Getting more than a little fed up with people in this forum constantly pissing and whining about the Kuz.  Her problems, such as they are, were always due to a lack of money for maintenance and upgrade, and yet even though that is being resolved, the nay-sayers still repeat the BS, even while she is still in drydock and the results of the modernisation are yet to evaluated.

    What the %#& do you people want? angry

    New boilers, steam turbines refurbished, new electronics, marinised Pantsir CIWS, plumbing problems fixed...  probably much more too.  How about people simply withhold judgement and wait until she is in back in service.? Suspect

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:08 am

    FLOT.COM
    January 25, 2023 at 08:02 Subject: Industry

    Sources: the withdrawal of "Admiral Kuznetsov" from the dry dock will be completed only in February


    The operation to withdraw the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov from the dry dock will be completed in February. On Wednesday, January 25, TASS reports, citing two sources in the military-industrial complex.

    "The operation to withdraw the aircraft carrier from the dry dock of the 35th Shipyard (SRZ), which began approximately on December 20, continues and will be completed in February," one of the agency's interlocutors said, finding it difficult to give an exact date, since weather conditions could not affect it.

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    TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" on the territory of 35 SRZ after an emergency with a floating dock PD-50
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    The press service of the Zvyozdochka Ship Repair Center, of which the 35th Shipyard is a branch, did not comment on this information to TASS.
    Previously, it was assumed that the operation to withdraw the aircraft carrier from the dry dock would last about a month.

    TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" was brought to the modernized dock of the 35th shipyard in May 2022. Later, the head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation, Alexei Rakhmanov, specified that dock repairs would take three months and last until September, after which the ship would be transferred to the outfitting wall of the plant. In fact, according to media reports, preparations for dock repairs lasted until the end of June.

    Recall that the contract for the repair and modernization of the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov, which entered service in 1990, was signed in April 2018. The cost of the work is estimated at 60 billion rubles.

    In November 2021, TASS sources reported that the return of the Admiral Kuznetsov to service was postponed to 2023. At the beginning of June 2022, information appeared that the commissioning of the ship would take place only in 2024.

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