No doubt, Israelis have one strong lobby in US. Which is why I never understand pro-US Arabs who always get inferior military hardware from the US.
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Israel and Nuclear Weapons
Corrosion- Posts : 181
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- Post n°26
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US will ensure Israel’s ‘military superiority’
No doubt, Israelis have one strong lobby in US. Which is why I never understand pro-US Arabs who always get inferior military hardware from the US.
No doubt, Israelis have one strong lobby in US. Which is why I never understand pro-US Arabs who always get inferior military hardware from the US.
GarryB- Posts : 40252
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- Post n°27
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Free scraps from the table are still free scraps...
And at high government level the scraps would be impressive... remember it is a few Arab governments that are pro US, not so much their populations, but of course because they are not democracies that never becomes an issue.
And at high government level the scraps would be impressive... remember it is a few Arab governments that are pro US, not so much their populations, but of course because they are not democracies that never becomes an issue.
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Right-Wing Israeli Newspaper: "Israel Should Nuke Germany and Iran"
Werewolf- Posts : 5925
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- Post n°29
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Right-Wing Israeli Newspaper: "Israel Should Nuke Germany and Iran"
This lunatic theocratic dictatorship has already announced if Israel would fall in a war it would bomb every country on earth, including and mainly europe!
GarryB- Posts : 40252
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- Post n°30
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Yeah... but Iran is the dangerous one... because they say so.
AFAIK has Israel actually tested a nuclear weapon?
Would be funny if they launched nukes at various targets and they didn't work...
It would obviously be unacceptable to see Israel attack Iran or Germany with nuclear weapons, but it would be hilarious to see the US squirm in the position that would put it in... under NATOs rules they would be obliged to help, and Israel is not part of NATO... I kinda doubt any US operation to denuke Israel however...
AFAIK has Israel actually tested a nuclear weapon?
Would be funny if they launched nukes at various targets and they didn't work...
It would obviously be unacceptable to see Israel attack Iran or Germany with nuclear weapons, but it would be hilarious to see the US squirm in the position that would put it in... under NATOs rules they would be obliged to help, and Israel is not part of NATO... I kinda doubt any US operation to denuke Israel however...
George1- Posts : 18476
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- Post n°31
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Pentagon Declassifies Documents Confirming Israel Has Nukes
In the latest example of the strained relationship between the United States and Israel, the Pentagon has quietly released a classified document which reveals the extent of Israel’s nuclear program. A program the Israeli government has long denied even exists.
Earlier this month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accepted the controversial invitation to speak before the US Congress and warn against "a nuclearized Middle East and the horrific consequences…to all humanity."
The speech received, perhaps, the largest round of applause heard in the Capitol since Republicans took control of both houses of Congress. President Obama was less enthused, calling the address "nothing new."
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu waves as he steps to the podium prior to speaking before a joint meeting of Congress on Capitol Hill.
Coincidentally or not, Netanyahu’s speech coincided with the Pentagon’s decision to declassify a top-secret document which proves that despite Bibi’s warnings about a "nuclearized Middle East," the region is already a host to nuclear weapons. Namely: Israel’s.
The 386-page report, entitled "Critical Technological Assessment in Israel and NATO Nations," dates back to 1987 and critical details on a nuclear program Israel has never admitted having.
"[Israel is] developing the kind of codes which will enable them to make hydrogen bombs," the Department of Defense report reads. "That is, codes which detail fission and fusion processes on a microscopic and macroscopic level."
Even more damning, the report calls Israel’s nuclear ability "an almost exact parallel of the capability existing at our National Laboratories," and calls Israel’s labs "equivalent" to US installations in Los Alamos, Lawrence Livermore, and Oak Ridge.
In Sept. 2012, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel shows an illustration as he describes his concerns over Iran's nuclear ambitions during his address to the 67th session of the United Nations General Assembly at U.N. headquarters. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu provided the U.N. with a memorable moment with a cartoon bomb a year ago, and he can be expected to again call for a hard line against Iran's nuclear program backed by the credible threat of force.
Los Alamos, of course, was where Robert Oppenheimer conducted the bulk of the Manhattan Project experiments.
"As far as nuclear technology is concerned the Israelis are roughly where the US was in the fission weapon field in about 1955 to 1960," the report reads.
To break that down, a Pentagon document states that 28 years ago, Israel was already as advanced in nuclear development as the United States had been shortly after testing its first hydrogen bomb.
The timing of the document’s release is certainly suspicious. Originally requested three years ago by a US journalist under a Freedom of Information Act request, the Pentagon had been slow to respond. A ruling by a District Court judge ordered the Defense Department to reply.
It’s also worth noting that while the declassified document revealed key aspects of the Israeli nuclear program, the Pentagon took pains to block out sections only other allied countries, including France, Italy, and West Germany.
On Tuesday, a Wall Street Journal report also alleged that Israel was spying on the P5+1 nuclear negotiation. While the prime minister’s office denied these claims, the newspaper cited senior US officials who said that Israeli intelligence was eavesdropping on the international talks.
Barely a week into his new term and Netanyahu already has radioactive egg on his face.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150326/1020060829.html#ixzz3VZyR47eT
In the latest example of the strained relationship between the United States and Israel, the Pentagon has quietly released a classified document which reveals the extent of Israel’s nuclear program. A program the Israeli government has long denied even exists.
Earlier this month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accepted the controversial invitation to speak before the US Congress and warn against "a nuclearized Middle East and the horrific consequences…to all humanity."
The speech received, perhaps, the largest round of applause heard in the Capitol since Republicans took control of both houses of Congress. President Obama was less enthused, calling the address "nothing new."
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu waves as he steps to the podium prior to speaking before a joint meeting of Congress on Capitol Hill.
Coincidentally or not, Netanyahu’s speech coincided with the Pentagon’s decision to declassify a top-secret document which proves that despite Bibi’s warnings about a "nuclearized Middle East," the region is already a host to nuclear weapons. Namely: Israel’s.
The 386-page report, entitled "Critical Technological Assessment in Israel and NATO Nations," dates back to 1987 and critical details on a nuclear program Israel has never admitted having.
"[Israel is] developing the kind of codes which will enable them to make hydrogen bombs," the Department of Defense report reads. "That is, codes which detail fission and fusion processes on a microscopic and macroscopic level."
Even more damning, the report calls Israel’s nuclear ability "an almost exact parallel of the capability existing at our National Laboratories," and calls Israel’s labs "equivalent" to US installations in Los Alamos, Lawrence Livermore, and Oak Ridge.
In Sept. 2012, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel shows an illustration as he describes his concerns over Iran's nuclear ambitions during his address to the 67th session of the United Nations General Assembly at U.N. headquarters. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu provided the U.N. with a memorable moment with a cartoon bomb a year ago, and he can be expected to again call for a hard line against Iran's nuclear program backed by the credible threat of force.
Los Alamos, of course, was where Robert Oppenheimer conducted the bulk of the Manhattan Project experiments.
"As far as nuclear technology is concerned the Israelis are roughly where the US was in the fission weapon field in about 1955 to 1960," the report reads.
To break that down, a Pentagon document states that 28 years ago, Israel was already as advanced in nuclear development as the United States had been shortly after testing its first hydrogen bomb.
The timing of the document’s release is certainly suspicious. Originally requested three years ago by a US journalist under a Freedom of Information Act request, the Pentagon had been slow to respond. A ruling by a District Court judge ordered the Defense Department to reply.
It’s also worth noting that while the declassified document revealed key aspects of the Israeli nuclear program, the Pentagon took pains to block out sections only other allied countries, including France, Italy, and West Germany.
On Tuesday, a Wall Street Journal report also alleged that Israel was spying on the P5+1 nuclear negotiation. While the prime minister’s office denied these claims, the newspaper cited senior US officials who said that Israeli intelligence was eavesdropping on the international talks.
Barely a week into his new term and Netanyahu already has radioactive egg on his face.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150326/1020060829.html#ixzz3VZyR47eT
max steel- Posts : 2930
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Do israel posses nuclear icbms or mrbms/irbms since they have to nuke whole middle east .
Werewolf- Posts : 5925
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max steel wrote:Do israel posses nuclear icbms or mrbms/irbms since they have to nuke whole middle east .
Unlikely to have true ICBM's but enough range to hit majority of europe. The missile technology was against all nuclear treaties provided to israel from traitors and defactors from both US and Russia.
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Israel nukes can target russia also ? But not usa perhaps . I think russia can shoot down israeli nukes but again its a risk .
Werewolf- Posts : 5925
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max steel wrote:Israel nukes can target russia also ? But not usa perhaps . I think russia can shoot down israeli nukes but again its a risk .
Israel has less than 400 nukes, russia can deal with it, but israel won't be even able to deal with 5 nukes coming at it.
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- Post n°36
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max steel wrote:Israel nukes can target russia also ? But not usa perhaps . I think russia can shoot down israeli nukes but again its a risk .
Israel can possibly target Moscow.. with their Jerico III missiles , and 7,000km range ,but their capabilities are limited only 3 multi entry warheads ,and probably the missile not even do maneuvers. the economy of Israel do not allow for become a major nuclear power.. even thought have estimated to have 400 nukes..
Neither ISrael could hide any launch.. Russia will detect instantly any missile launched by Israel and will have a really hard time to enter in moscow without being intercepted first in souther Russia or over the black sea..
Another problem for Israel is size.. a single nuke in telaviv will wipe the entire nation and
stop its capabilities to fight back. Something also important is Satellites.. israel do not have a network of satellites for guiding their nukes.. means will need to use GPS guidance. Means ISrael cannot attack with nukes any nation without help from US GPS satellites . Means that if US does not block assistance to Israel is guiding their nukes ,they risk a war too with Russia for helping them.
The only real nuclear powers that can face Russia in a nuclear war is US everyone else is too small or limited is nuclear capabilities. I really doubt Israeli missiles can even do maneuvers to avoid interception in mid course.. or that have ways to guide the missiles to its final destination without US help.
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- Post n°37
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max steel wrote:Israel nukes can target russia also ? But not usa perhaps . I think russia can shoot down israeli nukes but again its a risk .
Israel also has millions of Russians living there. Some pretended to be Jewish to get out of the USSR. Some ARE Jewish and dont really identify with Russia. And some are Jewish of sorts, but openly ignore the Jewish type stuff such as not eating bacon. Some are completely Slavic Russians who aren't bothered/interested Jewish stuff.
So Israel attacking Moscow is about as likely as St Petersburg attacking Moscow.
I think more of an issue is how Russia would stand up against Pakistan, China or France/Britain launching nukes.
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max steel- Posts : 2930
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Thanx . Pakistan land based nukes can't reach russia . Pakistani nukes are meant to deal with india or israel ( if they attack .) China will not launch its nukes on Russia just as France and Uk will not lauch theirs on USSA .
UK , France will surely target Russia but except for Trident slbms modernization i never heard europeans modernizing their nukes . China has been modernizing and developing its nukes .
Regarding Trident
Trident Whistleblower William McNeilly Says Royal Navy's Nuclear Programme 'Disaster Waiting To Happen' . McNeilly posted an 18-page report on WikiLeaks about the dangers onboard Trident . http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/18/trident-whistleblower-on-the-run_n_7303684.html?1431940362
UK , France will surely target Russia but except for Trident slbms modernization i never heard europeans modernizing their nukes . China has been modernizing and developing its nukes .
Regarding Trident
Trident Whistleblower William McNeilly Says Royal Navy's Nuclear Programme 'Disaster Waiting To Happen' . McNeilly posted an 18-page report on WikiLeaks about the dangers onboard Trident . http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/18/trident-whistleblower-on-the-run_n_7303684.html?1431940362
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US blocks nuclear disarmament document over Israel, Moscow fumes
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GarryB wrote:Yeah... but Iran is the dangerous one... because they say so.
AFAIK has Israel actually tested a nuclear weapon?
Would be funny if they launched nukes at various targets and they didn't work...
It would obviously be unacceptable to see Israel attack Iran or Germany with nuclear weapons, but it would be hilarious to see the US squirm in the position that would put it in... under NATOs rules they would be obliged to help, and Israel is not part of NATO... I kinda doubt any US operation to denuke Israel however...
They did explode a low yield one with assistance of South Africa way back. The South Africans gave up the 4 or 5 nuclear weapons that they had received at the end of apartheid. Or so memory serves me.
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US rejected Israeli request for hardware to raid Iranian nuclear facility
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max steel wrote:US rejected Israeli request for hardware to raid Iranian nuclear facility
To raid a nuclear facility? Sounds like a one way trip for the poor saps who have to do it.
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US said it is a suicide mission.
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Irregularities at Dimona Nuclear Center Being Kept From Public Eye
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- Post n°45
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No reason to doubt this. Also, if anyone would know, given his roles, it is Powell.
In the latest batch of leaked Democratic Party emails released on DCLeaks.com, former US Secretary of State Colin Powell asserts that Israel is in possession of around 200 nuclear weapons.
Powell, in an email exchange with US Democratic party donor and business partner Jeffrey Leeds, revealed Israel’s massive arsenal while discussing a speech by Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. concerning the latter’s opinion of the dangers of the Iran nuclear deal.
In the email, Powell asserts that Iran would not use an atomic bomb even if they could obtain one, because “the boys in Tehran know Israel has 200, all targeted on Tehran, and we have thousands.” “We’ll blow up the only thing they care about—regime survival. Where, how would they even test one?” Powell wrote.
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/us/20160916/1045390031/powell-email-leak-israel-nukes.html
In the latest batch of leaked Democratic Party emails released on DCLeaks.com, former US Secretary of State Colin Powell asserts that Israel is in possession of around 200 nuclear weapons.
Powell, in an email exchange with US Democratic party donor and business partner Jeffrey Leeds, revealed Israel’s massive arsenal while discussing a speech by Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. concerning the latter’s opinion of the dangers of the Iran nuclear deal.
In the email, Powell asserts that Iran would not use an atomic bomb even if they could obtain one, because “the boys in Tehran know Israel has 200, all targeted on Tehran, and we have thousands.” “We’ll blow up the only thing they care about—regime survival. Where, how would they even test one?” Powell wrote.
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/us/20160916/1045390031/powell-email-leak-israel-nukes.html
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- Post n°46
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDpMEUOzqi0
i belive israel didnt stop producing so she have around 400 nuclear warhead and also mega ton power bomb or more
i belive israel didnt stop producing so she have around 400 nuclear warhead and also mega ton power bomb or more
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theking950 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDpMEUOzqi0
i belive israel didnt stop producing so she have around 400 nuclear warhead and also mega ton power bomb or more
introduce yourself pls
https://www.russiadefence.net/f6-member-introductions-and-rules
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A bit OTT but its an analysis of Israeli nuclear forces and locations in a video at the link. Looks like its Lebanese so probably good Intel input, know what I mean.
https://www.english.alahednews.com.lb/56806/389
https://www.english.alahednews.com.lb/56806/389