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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:23 am

    Just surface rust... superficial.

    They just need to grind it back to bare metal and then put on a decent undercoat foundation couple of layers and then over the top with lots of paint and she will be good to go...
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    Post  runaway Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:54 am

    GarryB wrote:Just surface rust... superficial.

    They just need to grind it back to bare metal and then put on a decent undercoat foundation couple of layers and then over the top with lots of paint and she will be good to go...

    My real concern is that if you dont maintain the superficial which is easy, how about the engines, machinery and weapon systems! How a ship looks on the outside is often a telltale of the inside.

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    Post  Flyingdutchman Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:11 pm

    Austin wrote:Interesting Write Up

    Russian naval shipbuilding plans: Rebuilding a blue water navy

    Very nice article! thumbsup
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:09 am

    My real concern is that if you dont maintain the superficial which is easy, how about the engines, machinery and weapon systems! How a ship looks on the outside is often a telltale of the inside.

    Normally I would agree, but would say that argument only really applies to an operational boat.

    As the article mentions this ship is laid up getting repairs done to its gas turbine engines, so I suspect general maintainence would be largely unnecessary.
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:46 pm

    Nice poster:

    http://sdelanounas.ru/i/c/z/a/f_czAyMC5yYWRpa2FsLnJ1L2k3MTQvMTUwMi9hNy83YmM2MTA3Y2YzNmMuanBnP19faWQ9NTc5NjQ=.jpeg

    It includes the two Mistrals, which is a mistake.
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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:29 pm

    Project 11551 destroyer "Admiral Chabanenko" docked for repairs which will last 3 years
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    Post  Vympel Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:49 pm

    George1 wrote:Project 11551 destroyer "Admiral Chabanenko" docked for repairs which will last 3 years

    What are they doing that will last 3 years?
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    Post  runaway Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:45 pm

    Vympel wrote:
    George1 wrote:Project 11551 destroyer "Admiral Chabanenko" docked for repairs which will last 3 years

    What are they doing that will last 3 years?

    Good question! I would guess its about standard mid life time refit, hull works, engines, electronics and perhaps battle management system sigma will be added.
    I doubt the p-270 moskit will be replaced, but i certainly hope so.
    The Sa-11 can probable be replaced with Redut VLS system.



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    Post  George1 Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:39 am

    Military airfield Severomorsk-1 of the Northern Fleet and Chkalov οf the Baltic Fleet will be completed and put into operation in 2015. This was stated by Chief of Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy, Major General Igor Kozhin, according to TASS.

    http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201502100517-pmu2.htm

    So these 2 airfields will probably get Su-30SM
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    Post  George1 Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:56 pm

    On Sevmash for the first time, at the same time are being built several nuclear submarines
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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:51 am

    Repair of Neustrashimy patrol ship
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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:09 am

    George1 wrote:On Sevmash for the first time, at the same time are being built several nuclear submarines

    Some on this board were livid on the topic of project 636.3 completion in under 2 years. Russia needs 20 years
    to complete a submarine. Everyone knows this. LOL.

    I guess they never heard of mass production (pipelining in CPU architecture parlance).

    Good to see Russia getting its house in order. The clowns in NATO finally woke up and noticed. This explains the current restart
    of the cold war.
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    Post  Austin Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:00 am

    New Russian nuclear-powered destroyer to have striking power of cruiser — Navy commander

    http://tass.ru/en/russia/780377

    Are exisiting Destroyer 956 types going through any mid-life upgrade any thing planned or will they be scrapped end of this decade ?
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    Post  TR1 Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:06 am

    Austin wrote:New Russian nuclear-powered destroyer to have striking power of cruiser — Navy commander

    http://tass.ru/en/russia/780377

    Are exisiting Destroyer 956 types going through any mid-life upgrade any thing planned or will they be scrapped end of this decade ?

    Nothing planned yet.

    Hear Dalzavod in the Pacific was going to fix the engines of one or two units, but has been quite as of late...
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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:51 am

    New Russian nuclear-powered destroyer to have striking power of cruiser — Navy commander

    Not really news... with the new destroyers having 4 UKSK launchers for 32 missiles that would roughly equate to the 20 tubes on Kirov class vessels with Granit and 14 x SS-N-14 anti sub missiles.

    The Onyx is much smaller and lighter than Granit but the option to carry up to 32, or to carry 32 anti sub rocket propelled torpedoes, or a range of anti ship and land attack cruise missiles makes the destroyer very comparable to the fire power of the Kirov cruiser.

    Of course new electronics and SAMs and other systems will also improve performance in other areas too, and if retrofitted into the Kirov class vessels would greatly expand and improve their performance too.
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    Post  Kyo Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:22 am

    Russia, Egypt to hold joint naval drill in Mediterranean
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    Post  George1 Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:17 pm

    Russia Grows Maritime Potential, Returns to Global Geopolitics

    Russia returns to global politics, signaling of intention to regain its geopolitical positions as a naval power.

    Ekaterina Blinova — Russia is growing its maritime potential, signaling its intention to regain geopolitical power as a naval force, according to experts.

    In the midst of withstanding NATO expansion in Eastern Europe and closely observing its national interests in the Middle East, Russia is also strengthening its military presence off its eastern coasts – in the Pacific region – where the geopolitical interests of Moscow and Beijing are overlapping.

    Experts point out that for Russia and China the American pivot to East Asia and the Asia-Pacific poses a serious challenge. At the same time both Moscow and Beijing are in territorial disputes with Tokyo; wjth the balance of power in the Korean peninsula also viewed by the two global players as a guarantee for stability in the region.

    So far, Moscow has been upgrading and modernizing its Pacific Fleet units, and holding joint naval drills with China on a regular basis for the last five years. Additionally, Russia's Pacific Fleet is participating in multi-national anti-piracy operations off Northeast Africa's coasts and expanding its Arctic missions.

    Military analysts point out that over the last two years the Pacific Fleet has obtained new Borei-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBN) and Dyugon-class landing craft; Russia's second-biggest fleet will also receive the multipurpose Steregushchy-class corvettes and Yasen-class multipurpose attack nuclear submarines (SSGN) as a part of 20-year naval re-armament program.

    It is also worth mentioning that Russia expects eight Borei-class vessels to enter service by 2020, while the missile-carrying nuclear submarines "Vladimir Monomakh" and "Alexander Nevskiy" will join Russia's Navy Force in the Far East this year.

    Each Borei-class submarine can carry up to 16 Bulava ballistic missiles (SLBM) which are reportedly capable of overcomng US missile defense systems, making the Pacific Fleet an effective military "shield" of Russia in the Far East and bolstering its retaliatory capacity.

    Meanwhile, in 2014 Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced of an ambitious plan to expand Russia's naval presence overseas, setting up access rights for Russia to foreign ports.

    Remarkably, during his last visit to Latin America in February 2015, Sergei Shoigu signed a number of important deals strengthening military collaboration between Russia and Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua, including agreements, allowing Russian warships to enter the countries' ports.

    According to experts, Russia's naval visits to overseas havens have increased substantially over the last three years, including ports of Vietnam, the Seychelles and Singapore.

    Russia's gradual naval expansion demonstrates the country's intention to regain its global position as an influential naval power, experts noted, marking Russia's return to classic geopolitics backed up by strong military fleet.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150308/1019224812.html#ixzz3TnsjrOMv
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    Post  George1 Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:20 am

    Three boats "Raptor" entered the fleet

    As reported March 5, 2015 in a press release of "Leningrad Shipyard" Pella ", at the naval base of the Black Sea Fleet in Novorossiysk State selection committee made the acceptance of three built by this company patrol boats of the project 03160 (code "Raptor") with construction numbers 701, 702 and 703, intended to serve in the Russian Navy.

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    Post  Honesroc Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:41 pm

    Interesting article here which confirms that the sixth 11356 frigate has been cancelled, and that the BSF will instead receive one project 22350 frigate in its stead. I'm wondering if anyone has a second source on this...?

    "Later on, one of the projected vessels was cancelled as Russia decided to replace it with a stronger Admiral Gorshkov class frigate, also known as Project 22350. The vessel was laid down on February 1, 2006 at a shipyard in St. Petersburg. It is also due by the end of 2015."

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150313/1019449504.html
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    Post  Viktor Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:00 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    In Russia, work began on the creation of nuclear-powered submarines of the fifth generation
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    Post  George1 Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:01 pm

    Viktor wrote:Nice  thumbsup

    In Russia, work began on the creation of nuclear-powered submarines of the fifth generation

    they mean new design or the continuation of building of Yasen?
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    Post  Viktor Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:21 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Nice  thumbsup

    In Russia, work began on the creation of nuclear-powered submarines of the fifth generation

    they mean new design or the continuation of building of Yasen?

    Completely new thing.
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    Post  George1 Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:45 am

    Russia to upgrade 10 multi-purpose nuclear submarines (Acula and Oscar class) by 2020 — Navy chief

    All armament and vital systems will be new, Russian Navy Commander-in-Chief said, adding new hydro-acoustic and navigation equipment, control and communication systems would be installed on submarines

    MOSCOW, March 19. /TASS/. Russia’s Zvyozdochka shipyard in the country’s northwest and the Zvezda Far Eastern plant will be able to modernize about ten project 971 and project 949A nuclear submarines, Russian Navy Commander-in-Chief Vladimir Chirkov said on Thursday.

    "This actually means recommissioning a grouping of multi-purpose nuclear submarines with upgraded characteristics, which will operate in the Northern and Pacific Fleets," the Navy chief said on occasion of Submariner Day, which Russia is celebrating on Thursday.

    The requirements for modernizing these submarines were clearly formulated by the Defense Ministry and the Navy’s command and work is proceeding under the Navy’s daily control, Chirkov said.

    Profound modernization will leave only the hulls of these submarines intact, the Navy chief said.

    "All armament and vital systems will be new," he said, adding new hydro-acoustic and navigation equipment, control and communication systems would be installed on submarines.

    "The service life of project 971 and project 949A multirole nuclear submarines will be almost doubled while improved tactical and technical characteristics will help considerably increase the efficiency of the use of these submarines in the Russian Navy’s submarine fleet," Chirkov said.

    The Russian Navy has also assigned the domestic defense industry the task to develop 5th-generation submarines, Chirkov said.

    "We have formulated the task for the defense and industrial sector to develop fifth-generation submarines. This work is ongoing. There will be no pauses in the development and designing of new submarines," he said.

    The need for the development of such submarines is prompted by the "objective timeframe and the cyclical nature of the use of ships and submarines, and also the swift advance of ship-building technologies and scientific and technical progress in the field of submarine-building," the Navy chief said.

    Russia should look far ahead in the development of its nuclear submarine fleet to avoid any stagnation, he said.

    Until 2020, Russia will work actively on building fourth-generation submarines, the Navy chief said.

    "This process is accompanied by the work to maintain the combat readiness of existing-project strategic nuclear submarines and their basic armaments," the Navy chief said.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:31 pm

    Bit of topic, but what are the chances of this sh#t actually working?
    (Only asking cuzz i don't know much about the defense suite capabilities of Russian ships)

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    Post  collegeboy16 Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:59 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:Bit of topic, but what are the chances of this sh#t actually working?
    (Only asking cuzz i don't know much about the defense suite capabilities of Russian ships)
    pretty small- contrary to the video it cant hide from tv and thermal sights of ciws until just before impact, and those systems could reliably take down subsonic targets. not to mention even assuming its that stealthy to reach ciws range without alerting target ship's main radar- its still not as stealthy from the sides as it is from the front, so other ships in the vicinity could be able to target it with medium range SAMs.

    the supersonic terminal stage klub would be a nice anti-ship missile to compare this with- if they ever bother to make it as stealthy as this lrasm . sure the warhead would be smaller but smashing into the bridge at supersonic speeds is enough to ensure mission kill anyway.

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