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Hole wrote:Small nuclear reactor. Can be installed on the seafloor. The UUV can plug in and recharge its batteries.
GarryB wrote:New cellphones have charging pads where there is no actual connection... you just put the phone on the charging pad and it charges up...
. The US has a huge advantage in SSN. Russia will soon be defeated by China.
Arrow wrote:Now Russia has 2 submarine project 885/85M. USA has 17 Virginia class submarine and building next 11
What a clown how many SSK the Yankees have? wrote:
Arrow wrote:Russia has only a few modern submarines 636.3 SSK.
verkhoturye51 wrote:Only why not to build 12-14 but only 7?
They said they want cheaper alternative (Husky).
Which is all fine and well but fact remains that they haven't ordered a single new SSN in years while they wait for Husky to get off the drawing board
No, trolls are bigger threat. It's becoming a habit that once a year somebody says that Russia doesn't have enough SSNs and everything starts over again. If somebody wouldn't say it in a long time I would probably have to say it myself.
PapaDragon wrote:verkhoturye51 wrote:Only why not to build 12-14 but only 7?
They said they want cheaper alternative (Husky).
Which is all fine and well but fact remains that they haven't ordered a single new SSN in years while they wait for Husky to get off the drawing board
They may be saving some negligible amount of money but they are wasting massive amounts of time
No, trolls are bigger threat. It's becoming a habit that once a year somebody says that Russia doesn't have enough SSNs and everything starts over again. If somebody wouldn't say it in a long time I would probably have to say it myself.
Kilos won't replace a SSN, only if they can put those mini reactors from burevesnik missile inside them to produce electricity.
Hole wrote:The purpose of the Virginia class are to defend carriers/assault ships against attack by other subs and to search for SSBN´s.
By 2025 the roughly 28 Virginias will have the following "targets":
10 x Borey/-A
4 x 667BDRM (Delta IV)
7 x Yassen/-M
6 - 8 Pr. 949 (Oscar II)
4 x Poseidon carrier (Belgorod + 3 Khabarovsk)
31 - 33 "enemies"
Not counting 10+ SSN´s and 20 - 30 SSK´s.
Also Russia won´t stop building subs after the Boreys, Yassens and the Poseidon carriers.
So much to global domination.
They can roughly allocate 20 sub against russian navy maximum.
Now Russia has 2 submarine project 885/85M. USA has 17 Virginia class submarine and building next 11 Very Happy. The US has a huge advantage in SSN. Russia will soon be defeated by China.
The US does not need SSK. They build a lot of nuclear submarines that they do not have to have an SSK that has many limitations.
The purpose of the Virginia class are to defend carriers/assault ships against attack by other subs and to search for SSBN´s.
It would be a mistake. SSKs are better for shallow seas surrounding Russia.
The USN will still have 3 Seawolfs & dozens of LA class SSNs, + the RN & FN SSNs for the VMF to deal with:
So by 2030, if not slightly earlier, the combined totals of Russia and China will be something like: 40-50 SSNs and at least 80 SSKs. Man... it really doesn't look good for the "New American Century." Just another reminder. As if Kinzhals and Type 055s weren't enough...
That is because they are normally smaller than most SSNs
verkhoturye51 wrote:That is because they are normally smaller than most SSNs
SSKs lack seaworthiness for operating in open ocean. With their slow speed, poor max depth and armament, they'll be sitting ducks for hostile real SSNs. As you know they're made for operating in chokepoints and small/shallow seas.
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