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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:13 am

    Actually Verba and Label use several optical frequencies so calling them IR guided is not totally accurate. Optically guided would be a better description.

    The SA-13 Strela-10M1 missiles also have upgraded optical guidance too and are quite capable as well but their much larger warhead makes them more suitable to shooting down aircraft and helicopters.
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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:20 pm

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    Post  LMFS Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:41 am

    Nice, this will allow to counter also UAV swarms since it is an area (volume actually) weapon. Still, some APS capable for anti drone warfare is needed at the level of individual vehicles, I am curious to see what Russia will come up with, beyond the current improvised measures.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:47 am

    Nice post Hole...

    So a TOR battery with EMP armed missiles...

    the effective radius of the EMP warhead is 1-1.5km, the missiles are command guided and can effect drones and aircraft and incoming guided missiles, and they suggest using 4 missiles per launcher, which on a standard launcher with standard missiles would leave 12 conventional missiles ready to fire at other targets.

    The second chart shows 30km as the max range for the missile so presumably the EMP warhead is rather lighter than the HE warhead...

    The third chart seems to suggest this is an army system and will be used on S-300V4 and BUK and TOR... and is clearly intended to defend operational units in combat (top half of the third chart).

    I wonder if this will be instead of mini anti drone missiles or in addition to them.

    The super small 10kg missiles to defeat artillery shells and rockets would probably not be related to this because artillery shells and dumb rockets would not be stopped by a jammer and if they have physical detonators they would work as advertised despite EMP interception.

    EMP plus jammers plus DEW like lasers to dazzle optics or destroy structures and make them crash as well as guns and missiles of all sizes makes sense... some things will have other uses too...

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    Post  galicije83 Fri May 03, 2024 5:16 pm

    In last months or so its open season on BUK M1 system by Ukrops...lot of destroyed BUKs are...to many and Russians still cant protect them or find solution how to protect them...I know, they luck of TOR systems, who are also blind on so many things...at this speed they will lost to many BUKs and urkops will have lot of free space...
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    Post  GarryB Sat May 04, 2024 4:22 am

    Yes, of course... if they continue to destroy BUK systems they will end up winning the war and there will be nothing the Russians can do to stop their rampaging air armata of 12 F-16s that will ravage the Russian ground troops and Moron will declare victory and want is french forces to march to Moscow.

    Could it be that Ukrainians are showing videos of Ukrainian BUKs destroyed earlier in the war and pretending they are Russian?

    BUK is a medium range SAM and considering all the western systems Kiev is demanding I rather suspect they have run out themselves.

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    Post  galicije83 Sat May 04, 2024 7:44 am

    I just say that Russians will be in problem to cover their ground forces efective as they do today or in past. Less PVO systems they have less protectin they can give to ground troops and bigger casualties they will have.

    Buk is vital for ground troops because they with Tor and S300V is made for them and with this two they make umbrela. When you decimate one of them, you lost thsi kind of protection.
    Buk and tor shot down most of ukrainians planes and missieles because they are first in the line in protection, and S300V is last. Also Tors are made to protect both of them Buks and S300Vs...

    No on this videos are Russian ones not ukrainians. And most of them they lost it in last month or so...14 of them. Some are lost in Russian Federation near Belgorod. They send Himiars and drones on them. They destroyed more then Russians can made new ones...its.ok for now, because they used also Buks from storages and they have it lot of....
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    Post  sepheronx Sat May 04, 2024 8:51 am

    Would you know the difference between a Ukrop or Russian?  I mean, have you been paying attention to this war and how often Ukrainians pass off their destroyed equipment for Russian?

    I think not.

    Like in your other, rather lackluster in knowledge diatribe in the pantsir thread, you don't really provide much info with evidence other than something someone claims on telegram. I hate to break it to you but....people on the internet lie.

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